Pastry Chef: Immoral and Unethical?

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  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    I believe in taking responsibility. People need to take responsibility for what they eat. And people who bake delicious, irresistible food need to take responsibility for their actions as well. I live in a small town. There was a woman here who baked award winning pies. We bought her a bus ticket out of town, and everyone lost like a hundred pounds. RESPONSIBILITY!!!

    LOL!
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
    Don't look at me. I am a drug dealer and a gigolo. In my spare time I am working on the manufacture of handguns with grips to fit 5 year olds.

    I'm appalled that someone would resort to such a career choice as to fatten up the public. It's a disgrace. They could enter a much more honorable career field like I have.

    This is really, really funny. Totally worth the first post just to get to this one.
    Yessssss
  • hookilau
    hookilau Posts: 3,134 Member
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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Wow ... way to be a downer ... I'm a fitness professional (and I went to culinary school) and I am actually contemplating opening a patisserie/gourmet soup and sandwich place (emphasis on local ingredients, high quality, preferably organic ... healthy options available, stuff for gluten free, vegan, etc.) with my sister-in-law ... I love food and I love to workout (Sprinting and running is my passion ... I'm a Pilates and yoga junkie too), it all balances out ...

    ETA: Yes, there will be cupcakes, with LOTS of frosting (butter, cream, SUGAR! .. Cream Cheese ...) YUM!

    and for this you shall burn in hell....
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    Your friend is basically Hitler.

    This is my vote for #1 reply
  • shadowkat57
    shadowkat57 Posts: 151 Member
    I don't want to live in a world without pastries...
    And part of my weight-loss plan is to occasionally really savour something truly delicious, like a gourmet pastry, instead of just eating chocolate etc all the time. So :p to you and your high horse!
  • bohica36
    bohica36 Posts: 67 Member
    Oh how I wish I knew a Pastry Chef! My life would be complete.

    This thread is immoral. Now I HAVE to leave so I can buy some pastries! Look what you forced me to do.
  • tracklyf
    tracklyf Posts: 6
    She's doing what she loves, nothing wrong with that. And you don't have to eat it.
  • Jewlz280
    Jewlz280 Posts: 547 Member
    In for sugar, pastries, and OMG POP TARTS! Especially that deep fried one!
  • Erica_theRedhead
    Erica_theRedhead Posts: 724 Member
    How I eat my pastries:

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    Step 1: eat 550 calorie Cronut
    Step 2: run 8-10 miles and burn 800 calories
    Step 3: still lose weight

    Pastry chefs don't make people gain weight. People not being accountable to themselves makes them gain weight.
  • Kimberrh6
    Kimberrh6 Posts: 77 Member
    Goodness gracious, this is so ridiculous. How is being a pastry chef immoral or unethical? Get a grip. You know what is one cause of obesity? Eating TOO much of sugar. It's alright in moderation and our body is used to eating sugars. Do you eat fruit? If you do, then you take in sugar.
    Also, other countries such as those that are in Europe and pastries are a big thing, they have LESS of an obesity problem than we do. Actually they are much healthier. Why? Because they live on a mediterraen diet and then have sugar in moderation.

    Moderation is the issue. Not pastries. Goodness, you are not a very good friend.
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
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  • ihad
    ihad Posts: 7,463 Member
    Goodness gracious, this is so ridiculous. How is being a pastry chef immoral or unethical? Get a grip. You know what is one cause of obesity? Eating TOO much of sugar. It's alright in moderation and our body is used to eating sugars. Do you eat fruit? If you do, then you take in sugar.
    Also, other countries such as those that are in Europe and pastries are a big thing, they have LESS of an obesity problem than we do. Actually they are much healthier. Why? Because they live on a mediterraen diet and then have sugar in moderation.

    Moderation is the issue. Not pastries. Goodness, you are not a very good friend.

    You may have a point there.
  • rgugs13
    rgugs13 Posts: 197 Member
    I can't believe you are serious. People get fat because they eat too much food and don't get enough exercise. Don't try to place the blame on somebody else.
  • fivethreeone
    fivethreeone Posts: 8,196 Member
    Goodness gracious, this is so ridiculous. How is being a pastry chef immoral or unethical? Get a grip. You know what is one cause of obesity? Eating TOO much of sugar. It's alright in moderation and our body is used to eating sugars. Do you eat fruit? If you do, then you take in sugar.
    Also, other countries such as those that are in Europe and pastries are a big thing, they have LESS of an obesity problem than we do. Actually they are much healthier. Why? Because they live on a mediterraen diet and then have sugar in moderation.

    Moderation is the issue. Not pastries. Goodness, you are not a very good friend.


    Joanne Moniz?

    Is that you??
  • SweetlyVague
    SweetlyVague Posts: 172 Member
    Are you being serious?

    People CHOOSE what they eat, and if they choose to eat unhealthily, that's their prerogative. If parents of children are not educating their children and adults aren't educating themselves, that's on them.

    It's about moderation. I enjoy a good pastry now and I've lost almost 40 pounds!
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    Wow...So I get back from the gym...You know my weights class and spinning and bettering myself...And still more ridicule and jokes. I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with honey and an apple. I supposed I should have swapped my healthy option for a sugar filled donut according to these responses

    Can you just try to understand my side? Some "support" site. Maybe I should i have posted this in motivation and support or something. Again I'm not talking to those that were serious.
  • MuseofSong
    MuseofSong Posts: 322 Member
    Sarcasm is funny!

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  • mamadon
    mamadon Posts: 1,422 Member
    How I eat my pastries:

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    Step 1: eat 550 calorie Cronut
    Step 2: run 8-10 miles and burn 800 calories
    Step 3: still lose weight

    Pastry chefs don't make people gain weight. People not being accountable to themselves makes them gain weight.


    So thats a cronut?? Gotta try one!
  • bethannien
    bethannien Posts: 556 Member
    No one gets fat eating gourmet pastries. Except maybe rich people. And they can fend for themselves. I made me fat. I don't think chefs of any kind are unethical
  • AccioFitness
    AccioFitness Posts: 244 Member
    I bake like a mo-fo and I lift like a boss! In fact, I LIFT WHILE I BAKE.

    I.. I think I love you.

    Marry me and we can do epic lifts and go baking cupcakes into the sunset. Like total bosses.
  • MrsFowler1069
    MrsFowler1069 Posts: 657 Member
    Wow...So I get back from the gym...You know my weights class and spinning and bettering myself...And still more ridicule and jokes. I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with honey and an apple. I supposed I should have swapped my healthy option for a sugar filled donut according to these responses

    Can you just try to understand my side? Some "support" site. Maybe I should i have posted this in motivation and support or something. Again I'm not talking to those that were serious.

    Okay, in all seriousness....your "friend" embarking on a new career is also bettering herself. She will be (I assume) trying to make delicious treats, which will likely not come with a stipulation that a dozen must be eaten at a sitting. Those who opt to enjoy them, whether in moderation or to excess, will be entirely accountable for their own choices. Either you are happy for her chance to enter the field of her choosing or you aren't. I'm afraid I find the question ridiculous, but my intention is not to be mean.

    For the record, how do you think the sugar and calories in your peanut butter and jelly and honey sandwich and your apple compare to those of a donut? Not too far off, I'd bet. What if your friend was going to work as a beekeeper?

    If I chose whether to support my friends based on what they cooked or ate, I would not consider myself to be a friend at all. And plotting to take time off from work rather than share in celebrating their successes or discussing any valid concerns with said friends, well...I guess you have to decide for yourself, but I would definitely think this was an opportunity to re-evaluate my reasoning.
  • FirecrackerJess
    FirecrackerJess Posts: 276 Member
    I found this interesting because I have had a similar talk with a friend of mine (well not sure if they are still my friend.. drama... but anyways...), about sweets and moderation. They lost over 100 lbs and are now going vegan and they used to tell me my choices were bad. They would not even like the fact I was eating boneless skinless chicken breast, so brining up sweets... talk about a long conversation.

    He sort of believes what the OP says on basically sugar and what not being "evil." I am overweight and too have like 100 lbs I'd like to lose. BUT I have not cut out sweets or meat. I think staying within my calories is enough, as well as working out. I do eat better, no fast food really (very, very rare), and usually eat at home. I think OP you have a view that is rightfully yours but I do not think the way you are speaking of your friend or their choice isn't fair. They are not going to kill people with their profession. If a person cannot eat ONE donut for example, but instead 4 in one sitting... that is not the fault of the donut, but the person.
  • coolraul07
    coolraul07 Posts: 1,606 Member
    Here is the situation I’m currently facing and I don’t know what to do.

    So I have a friend who announced that she was moving into a new profession. SHE IS BECOMING A GOURMET PASTRY CHEF!

    So everyone is congratulating her on this big step in her life and all I can think is…WHY!? So she will be preparing pastries and directly contributing to the obesity epidemic in America. What’s next, should I congratulate the Marlboro man on the new gourmet cigarette brand he is coming out with?
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  • metacognition
    metacognition Posts: 626 Member
    I eat pastry treats and I'm not fat anymore. When I was fat I didn't binge on luxury chocolates, I over ate on mass produced refined carbohydrates.

    A gourmet treat is fine for indulgence every one in a while.
  • Natihilator
    Natihilator Posts: 1,778 Member
    I think you should make a visit to a French patisserie, for research purposes, before making a decision. (And take me with you)
  • mamacoates
    mamacoates Posts: 430 Member
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  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    Actually, I'm pretty sure that pastry calories don't even count, especially if they are gourmet.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    orthorexic much?
  • Mr_Starr
    Mr_Starr Posts: 139 Member
    Are you actually for real?! Your friend is not shoving too much food down people's throats, we all have choices to make regarding what we eat. Who doesn't love a nice pastry treat, we just can't eat them all the time. Someone else would get the job if she didn't, so how about actually being a friend and being happy for her.

    ^ This.

    You should be happy for her.

    The problem with "commerciallized" pastries is the quantity most folk eat. Like going to costco and getting a giant sheet cake, or a giant muffin is crazy. Portion size is way out of control.

    A good pastry chef will emphasize quality over quantity. I have seen a movement in my area for smaller or "right size" portions. I am not sure if nation wide , but i will assume so. This new emphasis on smaller portions is often being championed by folks like your friends.

    Have a "right size" pastry is a once a while thing. And as such it is truly a delight to eat something made with care and quality. For example getting a good croisant from an excellent baker. Sure it is smaller than what you get at your local chain store, but it will be far better tasting and can fit in your diet. Another example is a little cup cake shop i go to. The cup cake are a fraction of the size i have seen elsewhere... but because of there size i can easily fit the calories into my diet and still continue to loose weight -- and without sacrificing the delights of life. There is also a little pie place I go to every once in a while. A slice of her pies is not much more expensive than you can find elsewhere. The portions are a little smaller (because that is what the customers want), but each slice is a bit of heaven.

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