I just don't care about the 'obesity epidemic'
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An 11-pound newborn is not obese. It's a newborn.
What she said ^^
My mother has been obese most of her life, including when she was pregnant with me. I weighed 5. 1/2 pounds and they put me in an incubator thingy because they said I was too small ... (I was quite healthy).My husband told me one of his friends just had a baby and he weighed 11 pounds.. I thought.. wow.. u really shouldnt be prould of that.. that bothers me..other than that im good... do what u want but dont hurt the babies b4 they even have a chance to live.
What's wrong with an 11 pound baby? :huh: You don't seriously mean to tell me you think this baby was BORN OBESE? How tall are the parents? Tall parents have large babies, generally speaking.
An 11 lb baby may or may not be a problem. Could be large genetics. Could be that the baby has other issues.
And yeah, could be that the baby was born obese. If that's the case, someone had cruddy medical care.
My friend just had a baby who was nearly 11 pounds. He's 2 months old and looks the same size as his nearly 4-year-old sister, who was a TINY baby. Same parents, same medical care. Both healthy children.
I know many people who were HUGE babies and are super skinny adults. I was the tallest kid in my class right up through fifth grade. I'm only 5'3" as an adult. I just happened to hit puberty before my classmates.
What a ridiculous thing to say about a newborn. Eleven pounds is big, but not outside of normal and healthy.
It is genetic, though I understand sometimes gestational diabetes contributes in some cases to large babies. My brother and I weighed in at well over 9lbs each. My 4 children weighed in at 8lb14oz, 9lb 1/2 oz, 9lbs 8oz, and 11lbs even. I was overweight for each one, terribly so for the middle 2, did not have gest diabetes, and my babies were all born naturally and were NOT overweight. I am not sure it is even possible to give birth to obese babies. Crazy people and their crazy accusations.
very classy.
Yes, as I said, it is often genetic.
And I said that it is sometimes from health issues.
Because it doesn't happen in your back yard doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
And to add, I had a horrible pregnancy: Terrible morning sickness all nine months. I didn't eat any fruits or vegetables because I couldn't keep them down. I lived on pasta with oil and cheese and soda because even water made me throw up.
I weighed 110 when I got pregnant and 102 going into my third trimester and delivered at 155. My perfectly healthy daughter weighed 7 lb 6 oz.0 -
Obesity is an epidemic for a lot of reasons.
A big factor is that healthier foods are more expensive than crap foods. When you have no money to feed yourself (or your kids) you buy what you can afford, and ramen noodles are cheaper than fresh fruit.
Obesity doesn't happen only because people can't "push themselves away from the table"... it happens for a lot of reasons. A lot of terrible and painful reasons. Sometimes it's not a choice, it's the result of eating to fill emptiness, to cover pain, to find comfort.
I think many people on here are looking at this from an entirely arrogant perspective and should maybe think before they rant.0 -
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Tax dollars. :grumble:
AMEN! This is a huge part of why the Affordable Care Act isn't soo affordable. Healthy people have to subsidize unhealthy people!0 -
How does my neighbor dropping dead of a heart attack or cancer affect me? It doesn't, right. Does that mean I should not care at all if he lives or dies?How does your curvy/chubby/fat/obese neighbor affect you?
But I do care, because I'm not a sociopath.0 -
Tax dollars. :grumble:
AMEN! This is a huge part of why the Affordable Care Act isn't soo affordable. Healthy, WORKING people have to subsidize unhealthy people!
Fixed it to reflect a keyword you left out. Thanks Obama!0 -
OP ignore the haterz!!!!! :noway:
There just jealous. Congrats and good luck or you're journey! :flowerforyou:0 -
When I was much heavier I never went to the Doctor, afraid to hear the truth. When I finally went I was diagnosed with Type 2, I was only on meds for 3 months and then was able to control it with diet and exercise. I live in Massachusetts so the ACA is nothing new for me, I have always paid my healthcare premiums. Now that I am on my way to not being classified as 'obese' i have changed my life and my health around completely, I have perfect cholesterol, low normal sugar levels, as a matter of fact all of my labs came back in the top 5% of American Standards. I go the doctor more now then I ever did as an unhealthy person. So the argument that tax dollars make you mad at obese people is a poor one. What we need is more people to wake up and be accountable for themselves and stop eating like pigs, then all of us could enjoy low heath care costs.
And yes, I am still a human under my fat.0 -
OP ignore the haterz!!!!! :noway:
There just jealous. Congrats and good luck or you're journey! :flowerforyou:
Who is hating!? Why shouldn't someone who has deserts in her pic not be questioned about contributing to the problem with this careless attitude?0 -
An 11-pound newborn is not obese. It's a newborn.
What she said ^^
My mother has been obese most of her life, including when she was pregnant with me. I weighed 5. 1/2 pounds and they put me in an incubator thingy because they said I was too small ... (I was quite healthy).My husband told me one of his friends just had a baby and he weighed 11 pounds.. I thought.. wow.. u really shouldnt be prould of that.. that bothers me..other than that im good... do what u want but dont hurt the babies b4 they even have a chance to live.
What's wrong with an 11 pound baby? :huh: You don't seriously mean to tell me you think this baby was BORN OBESE? How tall are the parents? Tall parents have large babies, generally speaking.
An 11 lb baby may or may not be a problem. Could be large genetics. Could be that the baby has other issues.
And yeah, could be that the baby was born obese. If that's the case, someone had cruddy medical care.
My friend just had a baby who was nearly 11 pounds. He's 2 months old and looks the same size as his nearly 4-year-old sister, who was a TINY baby. Same parents, same medical care. Both healthy children.
I know many people who were HUGE babies and are super skinny adults. I was the tallest kid in my class right up through fifth grade. I'm only 5'3" as an adult. I just happened to hit puberty before my classmates.
What a ridiculous thing to say about a newborn. Eleven pounds is big, but not outside of normal and healthy.
It is genetic, though I understand sometimes gestational diabetes contributes in some cases to large babies. My brother and I weighed in at well over 9lbs each. My 4 children weighed in at 8lb14oz, 9lb 1/2 oz, 9lbs 8oz, and 11lbs even. I was overweight for each one, terribly so for the middle 2, did not have gest diabetes, and my babies were all born naturally and were NOT overweight. I am not sure it is even possible to give birth to obese babies. Crazy people and their crazy accusations.
very classy.
Yes, as I said, it is often genetic.
And I said that it is sometimes from health issues.
Because it doesn't happen in your back yard doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.
And to add, I had a horrible pregnancy: Terrible morning sickness all nine months. I didn't eat any fruits or vegetables because I couldn't keep them down. I lived on pasta with oil and cheese and soda because even water made me throw up.
I weighed 110 when I got pregnant and 102 going into my third trimester and delivered at 155. My perfectly healthy daughter weighed 7 lb 6 oz.
My statements were not meant for anyone to take personally. You had large babies. From the looks of it, you appear to be genetically a "big baby" maker. Some people just are.
I'm guessing that your children were healthy and your deliveries successful. That's not always the case.
I'm not "name-calling" newborns. I'm using "obese" is an adjective to describe a disproportionately large weight to length ratio AT ONE POINT IN TIME, not as a chronic condition.0 -
OP ignore the haterz!!!!! :noway:
There just jealous. Congrats and good luck or you're journey! :flowerforyou:
Who is hating!? Why shouldn't someone who has deserts in her pic not be questioned about contributing to the problem with this careless attitude?
Now DESERTS are to blame???
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I think the main issue we have is with the person freaking out about her friends having an 11-pound baby, not so much with you. But it's still silly to label a baby as obese, since that term denotes something that is within someone's control and can lead to health problems. You just can't tell that about a newborn based on weight. Some babies are just born big and there's not necessarily anything wrong with that. They're just big babies. If they weigh 80 pounds at 2 years old, there's a problem.My statements were not meant for anyone to take personally. You had large babies. From the looks of it, you appear to be genetically a "big baby" maker. Some people just are.
I'm guessing that your children were healthy and your deliveries successful. That's not always the case.
I'm not "name-calling" newborns. I'm using "obese" is an adjective to describe a disproportionately large weight to length ratio AT ONE POINT IN TIME, not as a chronic condition.0 -
Tax dollars. :grumble:
AMEN! This is a huge part of why the Affordable Care Act isn't soo affordable. Healthy, WORKING people have to subsidize unhealthy people!
Fixed it to reflect a keyword you left out. Thanks Obama!
^^ This. 110% THIS.0 -
I do care, I care about people learning how amazing their bodies are by using in exercising, about how most of the population deals with anxiety and depression and can be combated with working out. I care that people walk around with lack of confidence because they don't know that weight loss is so easy and so attainable by them.
I CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.
Not because it affects me, but I care about THEM! I care about their families and how it affects their daily life. You are truly only thinking about you, it doesn't affect you, YOU are tired of hearing about something.
Well guess what, people are tired of hearing about war, but it is still real
So oh well, things in the world suck but they are still real, and people need to understand how dangerous it is.
the end.0 -
OP ignore the haterz!!!!! :noway:
There just jealous. Congrats and good luck or you're journey! :flowerforyou:
Who is hating!? Why shouldn't someone who has deserts in her pic not be questioned about contributing to the problem with this careless attitude?
Now DESERTS are to blame???
It's the dry air. :bigsmile:0 -
I dont know.....health care we now pay for! Taxes! As a tax paying U.S citizen....you should care:) Thats the problem, people like you only think it does not effect you, when in fact it effects everyone! As for me, I DO CARE!!!!In fact, I'm sick of reading/hearing about it everywhere. I don't care if you weigh 100 pounds or 500 pounds. I don't care what you eat. I don't care how much you eat. I don't care how often you eat.
Seriously people, why the hell does it even matter? It's like everyone's forgotten that underneath all that subcutaneous fat is an ACTUAL person -- someone who has goals and ambitions, feelings and emotions, and families and friends JUST LIKE YOU. We aren't just sacks of ooey gooey yellow fat to pitied for or disgusted by.
How does your curvy/chubby/fat/obese neighbor affect you?0 -
I do care, I care about people learning how amazing their bodies are by using in exercising, about how most of the population deals with anxiety and depression and can be combated with working out. I care that people walk around with lack of confidence because they don't know that weight loss is so easy and so attainable by them.
I CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.
Not because it affects me, but I care about THEM! I care about their families and how it affects their daily life. You are truly only thinking about you, it doesn't affect you, YOU are tired of hearing about something.
Well guess what, people are tired of hearing about war, but it is still real
So oh well, things in the world suck but they are still real, and people need to understand how dangerous it is.
the end.
I care about YOU, so I'm going to preach at YOU about what YOU should be doing for YOU!
Maybe you should go door-to-door and spread the Good News About Calorie Deficits.
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I think the main issue we have is with the person freaking out about her friends having an 11-pound baby, not so much with you. But it's still silly to label a baby as obese, since that term denotes something that is within someone's control and can lead to health problems. You just can't tell that about a newborn based on weight. Some babies are just born big and there's not necessarily anything wrong with that. They're just big babies. If they weigh 80 pounds at 2 years old, there's a problem.My statements were not meant for anyone to take personally. You had large babies. From the looks of it, you appear to be genetically a "big baby" maker. Some people just are.
I'm guessing that your children were healthy and your deliveries successful. That's not always the case.
I'm not "name-calling" newborns. I'm using "obese" is an adjective to describe a disproportionately large weight to length ratio AT ONE POINT IN TIME, not as a chronic condition.
even at 2, they can't help themselves.
Most people I am in contact with regularly use words at face value as I do, without added connotation; not silly - just succinct and necessary for the work I do.0 -
Tax dollars. :grumble:
AMEN! This is a huge part of why the Affordable Care Act isn't soo affordable. Healthy, WORKING people have to subsidize unhealthy people!
Fixed it to reflect a keyword you left out. Thanks Obama!
^^ This. 110% THIS.
Yeah, we should just let them all suffer and die, after all, it's their fault they're sick. Plus, it's what Jeezus would do (when he's not duck hunting or influencing sports games, of course). :laugh:
Funny how people only want to pay for the government services they themselves benefit from. Oh wait, they don't want to pay for those either. 0 -
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No, but certainly that shows parental negligence at the very least. You can't blame a parent for a baby just out of the womb weighing 11 pounds. Even women of normal, healthy weights who gain reasonable amounts during pregnancy can have gestational diabetes and cause larger babies. But you can't really blame the mother for that. It's a medical condition that happens.
I think the main issue we have is with the person freaking out about her friends having an 11-pound baby, not so much with you. But it's still silly to label a baby as obese, since that term denotes something that is within someone's control and can lead to health problems. You just can't tell that about a newborn based on weight. Some babies are just born big and there's not necessarily anything wrong with that. They're just big babies. If they weigh 80 pounds at 2 years old, there's a problem.My statements were not meant for anyone to take personally. You had large babies. From the looks of it, you appear to be genetically a "big baby" maker. Some people just are.
I'm guessing that your children were healthy and your deliveries successful. That's not always the case.
I'm not "name-calling" newborns. I'm using "obese" is an adjective to describe a disproportionately large weight to length ratio AT ONE POINT IN TIME, not as a chronic condition.
even at 2, they can't help themselves.
Most people I am in contact with regularly use words at face value as I do, without added connotation; not silly - just succinct and necessary for the work I do.0 -
You should care. We all should. The more obese a society we have the higher the costs of insurance that the rest of us are going to have to pay for. Let's not even get started about how disgustingly fat so many children are these days. It is pathetic.
And underneath that fat is a person...I get it. But perhaps if that person took better care then they would feel better about themselves.In fact, I'm sick of reading/hearing about it everywhere. I don't care if you weigh 100 pounds or 500 pounds. I don't care what you eat. I don't care how much you eat. I don't care how often you eat.
Seriously people, why the hell does it even matter? It's like everyone's forgotten that underneath all that subcutaneous fat is an ACTUAL person -- someone who has goals and ambitions, feelings and emotions, and families and friends JUST LIKE YOU. We aren't just sacks of ooey gooey yellow fat to pitied for or disgusted by.
How does your curvy/chubby/fat/obese neighbor affect you?0 -
I'm laughing at this entire thread.
I don't care if people are obese. I also don't care if they're smokers or drinkers. I don't see people complaining about lifelong smokers having higher rates of cancer and "costing us tax dollars", yet people are so willing to harp on the obese for having heart problems etc.
WHAT? the government took a HUGE stance against the tobacco company because it was costing us so much money. have you seen the price of a pack of cigarettes lately?
I meant in this thread, sorry. Also I don't know the going rate of cigarettes or how it's changed because I'm not a smoker and have never been
As a reformed smoker and former obese person I can personally tell you that as a smoker I was basically treated as a 5th class citizen at best...when I was just fat, most people didn't care.0 -
Obese people cost 40% more a year in health care related expenses than a "normal" weight person. As a rule they do not pay more for health insurance than a "normal" size person, i.e., there is a cost that is spread to people who can push away from the table. Statistically obese people call in "sick" to work more often and file more workers comp claims (not to mention health care workers who are injured taking care of obese patients-happens all the time), so again, money.
It isn't about aesthetics, it's about money.
Obese people are less likely to go to the doctor for small complaints as they are afraid of bad treatment, hence they only tend to go when the problem is really bad...meaning their treatment costs more. It's not necessarily that they're going to the doctor 40% more often and it's disingenuous to present it that way.0 -
We definitely should thank Obama. The first president to get health care through for tens of millions of people who aren't covered.
You sound like an other uniformed person who gets their news from talk radio or fake news.Tax dollars. :grumble:
AMEN! This is a huge part of why the Affordable Care Act isn't soo affordable. Healthy, WORKING people have to subsidize unhealthy people!
Fixed it to reflect a keyword you left out. Thanks Obama!0 -
This. I hate seeing chubby kids because I know it's not their fault necessarily. And they're going to have a tough time losing any weight when all they've known is how to be unhealthy.I don't care about other peoples' diets either-- they're adults and it's their choice. The only time it does bother me is when I see obese children, who are pretty obviously being handed a set of unhealthy habits by their parents.
I guess I can actually agree to both of these comments as I was 300ish pounds when I was in the 8th grade. Those are actually some good points, so thank you both.
Agree 100%0 -
This. I hate seeing chubby kids because I know it's not their fault necessarily. And they're going to have a tough time losing any weight when all they've known is how to be unhealthy.I don't care about other peoples' diets either-- they're adults and it's their choice. The only time it does bother me is when I see obese children, who are pretty obviously being handed a set of unhealthy habits by their parents.
I agree 100%. I know what it's like to be that overweight kid, and to become that obese adult. The things I know now I had no clue about as a child, and I wish that I had the tools I needed then to stop my weight gain. My parents are wonderful people, but I sure wish they had said no when I was a child and helped me to make better choices!0 -
Its doesn't bother me unless I'm stuck next to an extremely obese person in a aeroplane or train.
Yeah because we all know fat is contagious.0 -
We definitely should thank Obama. The first president to get health care through for tens of millions of people who aren't covered.
You sound like an other uniformed person who gets their news from talk radio or fake news.0 -
Um, I think he means because of the lack of space.
Its doesn't bother me unless I'm stuck next to an extremely obese person in a aeroplane or train.
Yeah because we all know fat is contagious.0
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