How far are you willing to go for your pet?
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My pet peeve (pun intended) when I worked in a large, corporate pet store was owners who wanted a pet, but didn't bother to make sure that animal had a good life. Hamsters in tiny cages, fish in too-small tanks, lizards dying for lack of proper heat/light. And vet care? Forget it. They really want that animal (or their little demon-spawn does) but they don't want to care for it.
Very true.
The same goes for puppy mills. An awful trade. :frown:0 -
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You can tell by her eyes she is a sweetie!
She is a very sweet-natured girl. She was removed from a domestic abuse family and came into the local rescue. Absolutely petrified of strange men initially, but with a bit of love and patience she came on in leaps and bounds. She knows loads of commands including left & right, she knows names for all her different toys etc. You can tell her to bring you a ball and she'd never come back with a stick. She loves to learn!! We've started doing some agility classes and she loves it!! And she is hilariously funny! :bigsmile:0 -
I'd die for mine. However, there does come a point, where no amount of money is going to do anything but prolong their suffering. I've had to put two dogs down over my lifetime, my first ever was an Akita, Gracie. And the last, my Pit. Had him since he was a year old, rescued from a shelter, he was the best dog I've ever had the pleasure of being allowed to be with. I didn't own him, he let me be his. But when he had his stroke, and there was nothing that could be done...Could've tried steroids, but it would have, if anything, only gave him a couple months more, and he would've been in agony most of it. My sister is a vet, so she came to the house, so that I could hold him when he went. Hardest day, I think, of my life.
If it comes to injury, or illness where there's a good chance to recover their function and live a fully healthy life with little/no restriction, then there is no price tag for me. I'll find a way to do it, if I have to eat Ramen for the next two years.
You'd die for your pet? I know you won't care about my opinion, but I don't believe you would.
'I didn't own him, he let me be his' - wow what a ridiculous thing to say.0 -
This really depends on how the quality of life would be for my pet afterwards I guess. If it were my Buster or Pepper, I would opt to put them down if they were paralyzed. Buster is a pit-mix rescue and Pepper is a heeler-mix, both love to run and play fetch and I just couldn't see the quality of life up to par with what they deserve.
As far as the money goes, it all depends on how much the pet insurance would cover (both are covered for $40 a month, and well worth it) and if the vet would take payments (my current vet does). If it came down to something we couldn't afford, we would look at the options but if putting them down ended up being the only option then yes we would consider it.0 -
I'd do anything for my dog, it's a family member rather then a pet to me.
Same here. I have 3 dogs who are the only children I will ever have and just as you with human children won't put them down when they get sick, I can't imagine doing that for my dogs. I spare no expense where they're involved. I'm even paying the cost to move them from my current home (Kuwait) to my new home (Maryland) in February. No way would I ever think of getting rid of them or putting them down for something that can be fixed.0 -
Same thing happened to our cat, who was 12. One night his back legs just stopped working. The vet at the clinic couldn't really tell what was wrong though and wanted to do an MRI ($3,000) before surgery. We live in a college town with a vet school, so labs were clamoring to run multitudes of tests on our poor kitty. The vet leveled with us though and said that cats just don't go through surgery as well as dogs do. I was 3 weeks pregnant with our first child, we're both state employees, there was just no way we could afford any of it. So we said goodbye to our sweet kitty the next day. We cried so much the weeks that followed my husband was convinced our baby was turning Goth in the womb. A month later we got another kitty. And that following spring our daughter was born, sans eyeliner. We miss Aslan terribly but life goes on.
I can't imagine what some of these vets are doing.. I've had MRI's done on animals, and I've had their bones set, and it has never run me more than 500$. I would be looking for other vets.0 -
Tough call. I probably wouldnt do the surgery. I love my animals, they get good food, and they go to the vet when emergencies arise. However, that is a lot of money to spend and if he can still have a good quality of life without it. My dog recently got a big swollen eye. I took her to the vet, $131, and got her some medication. He had me schedule a follow up to check the eye. However, the swelling has gone down and she's back to her spunky self. I canceled the follow up. If I see it swell up again I'll take her, but I'm hard pressed to spend the money for a follow up when it appears normal. I guess I'm kind of cold when it comes to animals.
Oh and I have to get on my soap box. Yes I think dachshunds are adorable, cute, and make very sweet pets. However, curse the g_d damn breeders for breeding that into a poor dog. Degenerative back diseases and slipped disks are a risk for every puppy born into that breed. I hope those people who bred such a horrible trait into dogs is being slow cooked over a pit in the fires of eternal damnation. Sorry my little rant yes I love the dogs, but I hate to see them suffer because someone thought a long back was cute.
Stay on that soapbox and make some room cause I want up. I had no idea the amount of people that have had dachshunds with this issue until I started sharing what happened to me. I was shocked, I always knew they had bad backs but it's one of those things you expect to happen when they are older, not 5 years old for goodness sakes
Yeah it's the same thing with persians who have chronic respiratory issues because breeders keep breeding them to have flat or even pushed in faces.
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I am with the OP, I would do whatever I could if the dog or cat would be able to live a happy life. They are family.
This! Although my husband would disagree!0 -
I'll go as far as the animal shelter to drop the expensive little *kitten* off.
wow. Here's to hoping you don't actually have any pets... :noway:
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Our 7yr old mix lab/shepherd hurt himself several months ago. Slipped on the vinyl floor and hurt his back. We were so scared that we would have to put him down. The vet asked us to give her a chance to help him with meds and rest. We paid a lot of money in the beginning for 6 different meds to keep him in lo motivaton, and resting. Now, he is off most of the med, but will have to continue to take meds the rest of his life. That is about $90 a month extra, but we love him so much and he gives us such pleasure. He and our long-legged jack russel-mix are my husband's salvation on a daily basis and the joy of my heart since we never had kids. I would do as much as I could for our babies, but if I can't afford it, I can't.0
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I had to put to my dearest buddy (cat) down at 19 years of age and that was one of the toughest things ever. Never would be a money issue for me but strictly quality of life.0
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I'm the kind of pet owner that cannot possibly afford $5k to fix my pet.
If I had the money, I'd do it without question.0 -
I would go to the ends of the earth for my lovely cat Jay. Words cannot describe how much I love that lil *kitten*! Money aside, if he needed treatment he'd get it regardless of the cost!0
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Trying to find the humor in everything, I've been in the same boat, spending ~$12K on my two cats this year (one is doing great, the other didn't make it). I did charge all my vet bills on my Amazon card, so at least I've got a boat-load of Amazon points :-)0
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emmydoodle, Good for you for having the means to help your dog. A young dog, and a knowledgeable owner led to this decision.
I'm also with ldrosophila who railed at the breeders. Across breeds there are many genetic errors and it becomes exceedingly difficult for potential caretakers to make good medical decisions. There is no standard solution. Each caretaker has to make his/her own decisions on major medical. No one decision is right or wrong.
I'm glad your pup is on the mend.
Don't buy a breed prone to these kinds of conditions and then blame the breeder. The demand for the breed keeps these health issues alive and well. Granted, there are many breeders trying to breed out certain health problems but it's the buyer's responsibility to find those people.0 -
I'd die for mine. However, there does come a point, where no amount of money is going to do anything but prolong their suffering. I've had to put two dogs down over my lifetime, my first ever was an Akita, Gracie. And the last, my Pit. Had him since he was a year old, rescued from a shelter, he was the best dog I've ever had the pleasure of being allowed to be with. I didn't own him, he let me be his. But when he had his stroke, and there was nothing that could be done...Could've tried steroids, but it would have, if anything, only gave him a couple months more, and he would've been in agony most of it. My sister is a vet, so she came to the house, so that I could hold him when he went. Hardest day, I think, of my life.
If it comes to injury, or illness where there's a good chance to recover their function and live a fully healthy life with little/no restriction, then there is no price tag for me. I'll find a way to do it, if I have to eat Ramen for the next two years.
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OP, you are awesome for giving your pet such a chance. I, too, have a dachshund and worry about disc disease.
I work in the veterinary industry and I think I have an unfair advantage over regular pet owners. I am lucky that I have tools at my disposal which most people don't. I think, personally, I go beyond my means to help my own pets. I once had one of my vets anesthetize my tarantula to pull tape off it's legs. (And we don't even treat exotics!)
I would do anything for my pets. Like the-dude00 said, if there's a good chance of recovery, then there's no price tag too high. I have had to euthanize my 13-year old Pit Bull, Cujo, due to cancer, but he lived a good 3 years past his diagnosis and without much pain until the end. I think that every pet's issue has variables, and no two cases are exactly alike, but the more educated a pet owner is about their pet's problem, the more likely they'll be able to make a good decision about pursuing treatment vs not pursuing. It's a hard call to make, regardless. I'm just a sucker for my pets!0 -
I am with the OP, I would do whatever I could if the dog or cat would be able to live a happy life. They are family.
Ditto - it's a quality of life question for me. If all the $ and all the meds etc were not going to give my kitty a good quality of life then I would end it. But if she was going to be well, active and happy, no question, I'm doing what I can.0 -
i would do anything for my baby girl (she is a morkie about 8 lbs). she has endless love for me and i do whatever it takes to have her happy, healthy and protected.
She got very sick with a virus when she was a puppy and they said it would be best to just put her down instead of paying the bill $3000. It was a no brainer, we paid for the treatment.
A person had their dog off-leash at the park and was aggressive towards her and i threw myself on top of her to pick her up to protect her, i didn't care if i got hurt it wasn't even a thought in my mind. my thought was "don't let this dog get her by the throat"
Walking her once a 7 year old hoofed a soccer ball at my dog which i intercepted (which i was proud of myself since I've never played soccer lol) i then booted the ball over a fence and had some intense words for the kids parent, who had a :indifferent: look on their face and i carried on my way.
I treat my dog like she's my child and i give her the best life possible. i know i sound like a psychopath and maybe i am but its the same for any family member in my household.
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I've had my share of vet bills like almost any other pet owner. I view them as family members, not just posessions. So, when Bunny, my 14 year old Miniature Pinscher, had a tumor there wasn't a question as to whether or not I would fund her care. This was 5 years ago and she's doing great for her age. We've since added Brooks, a German Pinscher rescue, that we adopted from a shelter when his previous owners dropped him off with heartworms (which seems irresponsible for something so easily preventable). And Gizmo, our ferrel rescue kitteh, whom we found nearly dead and abandoned on our property when she was 2 weeks old.
I digress. One thing that has helped when sticker shock sets in at the vet has been our Care Credit card. Most vets accept this card and it usually comes interest free for like 18 months.
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I would do anything for my animals, after all, they are my furry kids. Would you spend $5000 on your child? I would think so. Well my animals are my kids and I would go to the end of the world for them. With that being said, you also need to ensure the quality of life would not be hindered in any way,shape or form.0
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We spent close to $10,000 on one of our cats a couple of years ago. She was young though.
We are a little more pragmatic with older cats. By rule of thumb, once over 10 we evaluate the impact of surgery or treatment on the cat's quality of life, and whether we are looking to prolong life because we don't want to go through the loss of beloved pet or because the cat will fully recover and have many more happy years of life.
Two years ago our adored 12 year old Abyssinian had cancer, and we were told we could extend his life by 6 months with the cat version of chemo. This would have meant weekly trips to the vet, and transfusions every month. That sadly didn't weigh up as the kindest option for him....and there was never going to be recovery.0 -
As much as it takes, when you purchase a pet, you are purchasing a life that you are completely responsible for. Purchasing a pet means you have to be prepared for big medical bills, food bills, costs for bedding, toys, heat mats, filters, lamps and so on. In the same way you do if you conceive a child. It's a responsibility and if you aren't prepared to consider dishing out a large sum of money at some point for potential medical issues and stuff you should really consider how fully prepared you are to care for that life.
Though I do agree with some previous points on quality of life, sometimes treatments can result in animals who continue to live due to their treatment but the treatment is merely extending their lives a little bit as opposed to helping them get better and relieving pain so the animal continues to suffer for a longer period of time. That I cannot agree with.
I have two turtles, an axolotl, and a snake and my family have a dog and, until recently, a lovely cat who passed on at the ripe old age of 18, R.I.P Dweezil. We'd all go to the ends of the Earth for our animals. I've put them before myself on occasions when I have had a limited budget simply so they continue to have a good quality of life.
Edited because of my awful dyslexic brain preventing me from spelling simple words. -.-'0 -
I'm the crazy pet mother who would jump in the middle of the road to stop my dog from being hit by a car.
With that being said, I also don't have kids. Priorities may change. But right now, I'd do anything for her.
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Well.. I paid $2k in total when my cat got bitten by a brown snake - the anti-venom on it's own is expensive & not ever guaranteed to work. And we pay $180 a year to get her fur shaved in the summer time...My passed kitty (taken by a brown snake) we spent about $2k on him when he had a urinary tract infection/blockage. So. I guess I would do a lot for my pets even though they drive me nuts. They are like family, even still after we have kids.0
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I agree with jojojo909090. once a pet is older you really have to think if you're prolonging their lives for them or for yourself. That being said, when my 3 year old dog needed a new hip we refinanced the house and used the equity to pay for it. I don't regret it for a minute, he was the best dog ever!0
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I don't have a pet. Unless Mark Cuban counts? http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1133569-i-got-confuesed-also0
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I paid $42 for a hamster to have her pouch sewn up after the vet took out impacted bedding. What does that make me?0
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My fiance and I are pretty well off (not saying this to brag, just in response to the 'most people I know that have money that wouldn't spend it on their pet' in OP's post) and our dog is absolutely 100% a full on family member and we'd do anything to insure a happy and healthy life. Even if he needed medicine three times a day, a wheelchair, tens of thousands of dollars in surgery... whatever! We'd do it.
Waffles, my fur baby
I do think there is a point at which you have to think about the pet's quality of life and if you're just being selfish in keeping him/her alive then yes, it may be time to let them go over the rainbow bridge... Sometimes you have to make really hard decisions like that.0 -
I paid $42 for a hamster to have her pouch sewn up after the vet took out impacted bedding. What does that make me?
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