Article: What no one tells you about losing lots weight

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  • kimad
    kimad Posts: 3,010 Member
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    I didn't read the entire article, but just some thoughts on my mind.

    1. My highest weight was 280lbs the day I delivered twins. When I decided enough was enough and I was going to lose weight, I thought this would fix all my problems -- mainly man problems my whole life. I figured this was it, and life would be perfect. HAHA little did I know, I had NO IDEA what I was about to uncover under the surface. Weight had nothing to do with it. I lacked so much internally - self esteem, self confidence, self worth. The tears I shed working thru it all was unreal.

    2. I have been VERY active with cardio and weights since my journey begin, I have done pretty well, but I have a lot of saggy skin in my stomach and it isn't going away. Was it because I lost more than 120 lbs? sure it plays a role, but I did have twins (full term at that) and I am sure a lot of that issue also comes from them. Will losing more weight fix it? maybe a little but that picture they showed on the website (could only see the one) is what my stomach looks like, and I have an apron of skin hanging down at 160 ish lbs. It's gross. I have chosen to get surgery to fix it.

    3. I think genetics plays a role, I don't think anyone can bank their outcome on someone else's experience. I know women who weigh more than me but look a lot thinner. It's the way we are built, where we carry our weight, etc.

    At the end of the day I would rather be healthier to live a longer life with no chronic diseases than be worried about having extra skin before I start my weight loss journey.

    Rambling now.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
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    Julia's website and work is fascinating for me, on several levels. Yes, she did lose 160lbs in a relatively short period of time but that doesn't detract from the basic points being discussed around self-perception and weight loss. At the end of the day, a lot of the failures of the flesh do require perception adjustments - but I'm curious - how many people would likely give up without some ideal driving force?

    I hate that here I am, at 47, and for almost 15 years I led a very sedentary life - even if I never became morbidly obese, but letting go for so long means that today my potential is just so much less. This does reduce for me the drive to excel to a minor degree and I readjust, almost daily, to address what I hope are still more realistic objectives. Well, if you listen to the people around me, they think I'm crazy.

    I'm troubled by the discussion of "realistic-expectations" because, as valuable as it might seem to help someone prepare and address for the end result it is also the "thousand deaths by paper cuts" of not striving for an ideal. Yes, I know I won't reach all the Everests of my mind, and that perhaps now each is a dirty, over-visited, common place but, dammit, I'm going to try and enjoy my journey there.

    When we look at her "travelogue" of pictures on her "journey" despite the destination being more the back-alleys of Calcutta versus the expected Taj Mahal she seems to (mostly) have a great time on the trip - and dress like a little girl playing princess quite a few times. I think part of that is lost when we only consider the end result of loose skin, I saw the up thread discussion of the health benefits, and capabilities. Add to this that each day is a resetting of goals and expectations and self-appreciation.

    Perhaps, I don't know, it just takes time to have more perspective of who and what you are becoming - whether you go fast or slow.
    Wow. You nailed it. I wanted to say so much more on this thread when I commented earlier, but couldn't find the words. The part I bolded, I find particularly striking. I was troubled too, because I don't find having 'realistic expectations' very motivating, quite the opposite. I need to strive for the ideal, even if it is perhaps unattainable. I think most people like to dream big, and why not? There's no finish line anyway. :drinker:

    You make a good point there is no finish line, but maybe the way I see it is someone coming at weight loss thinking they are going to have a perfect body what happens when those expectations are not met?

    You can strive to have a better body, and maybe one can improve it just through exercise alone (when massive amounts of weight are lost) and the luck of the draw with good genetics. Your goal in life should always be to better yourself .

    I guess since my mindset has always been all are nothing if I dont weigh X pounds then I'm not good enough, and by saying you know if my blood pressure is great and I have swinging bat arms I've still reached perfection and for me acceptance starts change.

    Just my thought, but of course big dreams come from big change.
  • ILiftHeavyAcrylics
    ILiftHeavyAcrylics Posts: 27,732 Member
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    Julia's website and work is fascinating for me, on several levels. Yes, she did lose 160lbs in a relatively short period of time but that doesn't detract from the basic points being discussed around self-perception and weight loss. At the end of the day, a lot of the failures of the flesh do require perception adjustments - but I'm curious - how many people would likely give up without some ideal driving force?

    I hate that here I am, at 47, and for almost 15 years I led a very sedentary life - even if I never became morbidly obese, but letting go for so long means that today my potential is just so much less. This does reduce for me the drive to excel to a minor degree and I readjust, almost daily, to address what I hope are still more realistic objectives. Well, if you listen to the people around me, they think I'm crazy.

    I'm troubled by the discussion of "realistic-expectations" because, as valuable as it might seem to help someone prepare and address for the end result it is also the "thousand deaths by paper cuts" of not striving for an ideal. Yes, I know I won't reach all the Everests of my mind, and that perhaps now each is a dirty, over-visited, common place but, dammit, I'm going to try and enjoy my journey there.

    When we look at her "travelogue" of pictures on her "journey" despite the destination being more the back-alleys of Calcutta versus the expected Taj Mahal she seems to (mostly) have a great time on the trip - and dress like a little girl playing princess quite a few times. I think part of that is lost when we only consider the end result of loose skin, I saw the up thread discussion of the health benefits, and capabilities. Add to this that each day is a resetting of goals and expectations and self-appreciation.

    Perhaps, I don't know, it just takes time to have more perspective of who and what you are becoming - whether you go fast or slow.
    Wow. You nailed it. I wanted to say so much more on this thread when I commented earlier, but couldn't find the words. The part I bolded, I find particularly striking. I was troubled too, because I don't find having 'realistic expectations' very motivating, quite the opposite. I need to strive for the ideal, even if it is perhaps unattainable. I think most people like to dream big, and why not? There's no finish line anyway. :drinker:

    You make a good point there is no finish line, but maybe the way I see it is someone coming at weight loss thinking they are going to have a perfect body what happens when those expectations are not met?

    You can strive to have a better body, and maybe one can improve it just through exercise alone (when massive amounts of weight are lost) and the luck of the draw with good genetics. Your goal in life should always be to better yourself .

    I guess since my mindset has always been all are nothing if I dont weigh X pounds then I'm not good enough. By saying you know if my blood pressure is great and I have swinging bat arms I've still reached perfection and for me acceptance starts change.

    Just my thought, but of course big dreams come from big change.

    Maybe it comes down to knowing what your personal reactions to not having expectations met will be.
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  • kimad
    kimad Posts: 3,010 Member
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    Julia's website and work is fascinating for me, on several levels. Yes, she did lose 160lbs in a relatively short period of time but that doesn't detract from the basic points being discussed around self-perception and weight loss. At the end of the day, a lot of the failures of the flesh do require perception adjustments - but I'm curious - how many people would likely give up without some ideal driving force?

    I hate that here I am, at 47, and for almost 15 years I led a very sedentary life - even if I never became morbidly obese, but letting go for so long means that today my potential is just so much less. This does reduce for me the drive to excel to a minor degree and I readjust, almost daily, to address what I hope are still more realistic objectives. Well, if you listen to the people around me, they think I'm crazy.

    I'm troubled by the discussion of "realistic-expectations" because, as valuable as it might seem to help someone prepare and address for the end result it is also the "thousand deaths by paper cuts" of not striving for an ideal. Yes, I know I won't reach all the Everests of my mind, and that perhaps now each is a dirty, over-visited, common place but, dammit, I'm going to try and enjoy my journey there.

    When we look at her "travelogue" of pictures on her "journey" despite the destination being more the back-alleys of Calcutta versus the expected Taj Mahal she seems to (mostly) have a great time on the trip - and dress like a little girl playing princess quite a few times. I think part of that is lost when we only consider the end result of loose skin, I saw the up thread discussion of the health benefits, and capabilities. Add to this that each day is a resetting of goals and expectations and self-appreciation.

    Perhaps, I don't know, it just takes time to have more perspective of who and what you are becoming - whether you go fast or slow.
    Wow. You nailed it. I wanted to say so much more on this thread when I commented earlier, but couldn't find the words. The part I bolded, I find particularly striking. I was troubled too, because I don't find having 'realistic expectations' very motivating, quite the opposite. I need to strive for the ideal, even if it is perhaps unattainable. I think most people like to dream big, and why not? There's no finish line anyway. :drinker:

    You make a good point there is no finish line, but maybe the way I see it is someone coming at weight loss thinking they are going to have a perfect body what happens when those expectations are not met?

    You can strive to have a better body, and maybe one can improve it just through exercise alone (when massive amounts of weight are lost) and the luck of the draw with good genetics. Your goal in life should always be to better yourself .

    I guess since my mindset has always been all are nothing if I dont weigh X pounds then I'm not good enough, and by saying you know if my blood pressure is great and I have swinging bat arms I've still reached perfection and for me acceptance starts change.

    Just my thought, but of course big dreams come from big change.

    While I never thought my body would be perfect, I didn't realize how bad mine would be. At 160 lbs I didn't think I'd have to tuck my gut into my pants.... like tuck it in, it's not normal. I'm sure this contributes to my messed up body image.
  • Siansonea
    Siansonea Posts: 917 Member
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    I thought she looked beautiful.

    I think most people feel this way, and aren't nearly as put off by the appearance of her loose skin as she is herself. Which is something we should all keep in mind—we are always much more critical of ourselves than we would ever be of anyone else. And others are never as critical of us as we are of ourselves. So maybe do unto oneself as you would do unto others? :flowerforyou:
  • Cindyinpg
    Cindyinpg Posts: 3,902 Member
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    I thought she looked beautiful.

    I think most people feel this way, and aren't nearly as put off by the appearance of her loose skin as she is herself. Which is something we should all keep in mind—we are always much more critical of ourselves than we would ever be of anyone else. And others are never as critical of us as we are of ourselves. So maybe do unto oneself as you would do unto others? :flowerforyou:
    Agreed. I found that very thing when I was looking through www.mybodygallery.com for the first time. There were all these women at different sizes and whereas I thought I had looked horrible at a certain weight(s), they looked beautiful to me at those same weights.
  • wendybird5
    wendybird5 Posts: 577 Member
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    Thanks for posting.

    I was afraid of this happening to me and was very fortunate that aside from some stomach sag and droopier boobs, I actually look pretty good and no one can believe I've lost as much as I've had. But once I hit my goal, I'm thinking of rewarding myself with a tummy tuck.
  • mmipanda
    mmipanda Posts: 351 Member
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    I dropped 45lbs at the end of high school and my body is a train wreck. No crash diets or anything extreme, just started working part time, moving more, eating less rubbish. It happens. Loved her nude photoset, it spoke volumes to me. sometimes I find myself wondering if I really want to lose more weight and get more saggy stretched skin, or if where I am is an ok medium.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
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    Just thinking out loud, but a few years ago I had to get a retin a product for stubborn adult acne. And wow talk about a magical cream for skin. Not only did it totally solve the acne...still a few years later I've had no reoccurance...it also seemed to refresh and tighten my skin up majorly. Not that it was bad or anything but it was noticable.

    So given it helps the cells in skin and does have a tightening, regenerating effect wouldn't it possibly be something that could aid the skin while losing weight? Even a small bit?

    I really don't know anything about it, but this thread just made me think about this.

    Hmmmmm? Interesting idea
  • CMB1979
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    To be honest, I would have preferred my sons see nude women in National Geographic magazine rather than air-brushed porn.

    I'd love to read a story about a mother, upon finding Playboy or whatever magazines in their kid's room, switched them out with National Geographic with your note:
    REAL women come in all shapes and sizes.

    Great idea!
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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    To be honest, I would have preferred my sons see nude women in National Geographic magazine rather than air-brushed porn.

    I'd love to read a story about a mother, upon finding Playboy or whatever magazines in their kid's room, switched them out with National Geographic with your note:
    REAL women come in all shapes and sizes.

    Great idea!

    Heeheehee thanks.
    Actually, they're both grown up now and have dated girls of all shapes and sizes. Makes me a proud mom. :-)

    ***** TO ALL THOSE WHOSE PEOPLE WHO INSIRE ME BY LOSING THE WEIGHT AND GETTING HEALTHY *****


    PLEASE leave yourself open to accept the love people have for you.

    If you are having difficulty with confidence and self-love, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE find resources to help you build your confidence.

    Remember that the people who love you don't want to see anyone being unkind to you... Even if that person is YOU!

    Soooo many things... The glimmer in your eyes, the sound of your laughter and a million other things about you make you attractive!!! Sexy isn't just about the shape or condition of your body.

    Much love!! :flowerforyou: :heart:
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  • rosemary98
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    I think this is a beautiful set of artwork this woman/artist has created. I feel thrilled and sad for her all at the same time. I wish I had the confidence and vulnerability to create something so poignant.
  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
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    That said, I do find it dismaying that now, at a US size 8 and only 3 pounds overweight according to BMI, I am still being hit on by men who are fat fetishists on the dating site I'm on. I wonder what weight/size I need to be to no longer be objectified as a fatty. Isn't the average American woman a size 14? I'm way below that average. I wonder whether some of the men who think they're into fat chicks just have super unrealistic views of what regular women look like.

    Whether a person is still overweight, or even obese, unfortunately has very little to do with BMI (which is just a very general notion), clothing size (especially since our sizes now are WILDLY inflated), or even the number on the scale.

    How you visually look, the amount of actual fat on your frame, is the most reliable measuring tool. That's because body fat to lean mass ratio is what really determines how fat/lean a person looks, and is perceived by most.
  • luveeyore21
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    Great article, I a few years back lost approximately 200#'s. I wasn't prepared for the lose skin. It totally got to me. I kept thinking, I worked so hard to lose all this weight and still couldn't wear certain styles. I let it get me way to much and gained it all back. :sad: Now I realize the lose skin was better then bad health. So I am on this journey again. But at least this time I am prepared for the lose skin. I will wear it like battle scars!!!:happy:
  • Raynne413
    Raynne413 Posts: 1,527 Member
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  • lighteningjeanne855
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    In my first weeks of my new lifestyle, I did some research about how to keep skin tight.
    There are foods one can consume which contain collagen, a component of the skin,
    which help maintain its elasticity.
    I will amend this posting to include some sources for your research.
  • karenmetfan
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    Maybe I'm naive...but I find it hard to believe that most of those pictures the person lost weight slowly and carefully with lots of exercise. How could they have bounced around doing areobics with massive hanging skin, or practically anything! Its great that the picture project that they have lost weight...but at least in my experience with exercise my stomach almost all but disappears...times I dieted without exercise HCG I was saggy. People do themselves a great disservice just going low cal instead of getting active and stronger through exercise.

    I actually really did not like that site and the example its giving...we see on THIS site regularly people that have lost 100+ lbs and they don't have tons and tons of loose skin dangling. I'm sure it happens but I think its the exception.

    I have lost 100lbs over the course of 2 years--1-2lbs/wk. I worked out and ate properly doing it, nothing drastic. In the beginning I just walked, then I started adding crunches and other ab work and 6lb weights for my arms. As my fitness level improved, I would "boost" my walking by increasing the speed. Then that became not enough so I started doing walking dvd's and would boost those. I do 4-5 miles/6 days a week and add ab, arm and leg work. I am 48 and had been fat my whole life. I have some loose skin. It's going to happen. I have loose skin on my upper arms, my lower abdomen and my thighs and neck. I don't like it, but I pretty much knew it would happen. My hope is, when I am at my final weight, that it will recover. I do know it will not recover immediately and may take a couple of years and I'm okay with that. I'm taking supplements on the chance they will help the skin recover also. To say it is the exception is absolutely naive. It happens even with exercise. I think the more important factor is the age of the person and how long the person has been morbidly obese (and how high that number is to be honest).