IT IS SO HARD TO COUNTER CALORIES...
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WHEN YOU'RE EATING CLEAN!
You have to work so much harder. All the calorie numbers aren't neatly on a package. YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY ENTER YOUR RECIPES!
*throws stuff around* RAWR RAWR RAWRRRRRRR
*huff huff*
But for serious. It's not easy.
Couple of points of advice after struggling with clean eating for years.
1) NEVER guess how much your food is. Always enter your recipe into the recipe maker provided by MFP.
2) Remember how much better you feel when you aren't eating packaged food.
3) Do not binge eat chocolate (unless you want to).
That is all. I'm out. *wanders off to enter more recipes* RAWRIOWEILJSKLFJI
Agreed. I try to make big portions (crockpot of chili) and I use the calorie tracker here to get a pretty good read on total.
Another options is to calculate your TDEE and then just eat 10% less.0 -
Wow...
I thought it was pretty obvious my statements were deliberately being exaggerated for the purpose of a rant.
Seriously.
Stop being so serious.
You'll get wrinkles!
well my first thought was it was in tandem with the clean bashing thread.... and then it just kept going
but meh whatever- I'm a work- I'm ALWAYS serious at work (cough cough cough)
There's a clean bashing thread? I MUST FIND IT SO I CAN BE OFFENDED!
it's on thread # 2 already
go go now so you can be offended. Be double offended- there are men in underwear there too. Highly sexist.
You don't have to count calories off other people's plates- but I recommend if you go to someone else' shouse- you spend all the hours typing in THEIR recipe (you have to ball park it with an at home scale and sniff test) to your account so you are as accurate as possible.
I'm just saying.Please don't use the word BULLY to describe this. Bullying is very serious. Disagreeing with you in a snarky manner is not bullying. Repeated attempts to belittle your character, or physically assaulting is bullying.
while I kind of agree with you- ... but meh belitting someone's character isn't bullying-it's slander or libel- and unless your in politic- it's irrelevant and it's just someone being a dcik. Most bullying stuff is blown wildly out of proportion- People (in the great big real world) just need to do 2 things.
1.) stop being ignorant and pretentious that the world owes them anything
2.) toughen up butter cup.0 -
Wow...
I thought it was pretty obvious my statements were deliberately being exaggerated for the purpose of a rant.
Seriously.
Stop being so serious.
You'll get wrinkles!
well my first thought was it was in tandem with the clean bashing thread.... and then it just kept going
but meh whatever- I'm a work- I'm ALWAYS serious at work (cough cough cough)
There's a clean bashing thread? I MUST FIND IT SO I CAN BE OFFENDED!
it's on thread # 2 already
go go now so you can be offended. Be double offended- there are men in underwear there too. Highly sexist.
You don't have to count calories off other people's plates- but I recommend if you go to someone else' shouse- you spend all the hours typing in THEIR recipe (you have to ball park it with an at home scale and sniff test) to your account so you are as accurate as possible.
I'm just saying.
*horrified look* You are trying to make things harder aren't you? EVIL... kidding.
I found it! That thread is wonderful! *can't see the clean bashing because she's too busy enjoying the underwear*0 -
But are you counting all the calories in the dirt your washing off your food so its clean? Your calorie count could be off.0
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The alternative would be to do weight watchers where fruits and vegetables are free.
Now I will duck for cover after that comment. Nothing in life is free.....:explode:0 -
you actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
OMG..seriously..:explode: :explode: :explode:
See clean eating doesn't get bashed...this type of fallacy does...
Get a grip you have to count calories to lose weight.
Wow I guess it is ok to internet bully people around here
Um, yea .... I'm thinking she didn't expect to get hated on so much for this comment. I don't necessarily agree with what she said, but you guys are probably making her feels terrible right now.
Thank you. I really do feel bad, I didn't realize people were so harsh around here.
what works for me might not work for someone else, we are all different. I think i am safe in saying we are all here for the same reason though. We should be more supportive of each other.
Wrong.
We are not all here for the same reason0 -
I've been eating clean for over two years. I am still fat. :Pyou actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
Because clean foods = magical properties!
So the real question is;
If you could log faster and easier, would you be more likely to sustain a calorie deficit?
If the answers yes, then I'd initially say bull****... But then say forget eating clean and eat IIFYM.
If the answers no, then I'd defer to Arnold; Stop Whining!0 -
Wow I guess it is ok to internet bully people around here
That wasn't bullying. It was being curt, big difference - you sensitive souls all need hugs.Thank you. I really do feel bad, I didn't realize people were so harsh around here. what works for me might not work for someone else, we are all different. I think i am safe in saying we are all here for the same reason though. We should be more supportive of each other.
Wrong.
We are not all here for the same reason
Sending explicit messages to top heavy lovelies... That's why we're here - yeah?0 -
I've been eating clean for over two years. I am still fat. :Pyou actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
Because clean foods = magical properties!
So the real question is;
If you could log faster and easier, would you be more likely to sustain a calorie deficit?
If the answers yes, then I'd initially say bull****... But then say forget eating clean and eat IIFYM.
If the answers no, then I'd defer to Arnold; Stop Whining!
I have no idea what IIFYM is and I don't want to know. :P
My current diet is not one I have any control over (allergies out the ying yang). All I can control is how I whine about it... He who whines most, relaxes most. :P0 -
Wow I guess it is ok to internet bully people around here
That wasn't bullying. It was being curt, big difference - you sensitive souls all need hugs.Thank you. I really do feel bad, I didn't realize people were so harsh around here. what works for me might not work for someone else, we are all different. I think i am safe in saying we are all here for the same reason though. We should be more supportive of each other.
Wrong.
We are not all here for the same reason
Sending explicit messages to top heavy lovelies... That's why we're here - yeah?
I do need a hug but not from you. I'm a little weirded out by your face. however, from what I understand I am "pear shaped", so luckily I am excluded from your motivations for being here.0 -
I do need a hug but not from you. I'm a little weirded out by your face. however, from what I understand I am "pear shaped", so luckily I am excluded from your motivations for being here.
Weirded out by my face? You sound just like my pirate half brother Le Chuck.
Your invert-optimal body type may preclude you, but that hasn't stopped you sending me messages.... You naughty little badger.0 -
You guys seriously don't have the bar codes on the stickers?
They don't have that where I shop. The sticker just has a 3 or 4 digit number and the name of it.0 -
you actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
OMG..seriously..:explode: :explode: :explode:
See clean eating doesn't get bashed...this type of fallacy does...
Get a grip you have to count calories to lose weight.
Wow I guess it is ok to internet bully people around here
LOL @ "bully"
Get a grip, indeed!0 -
They don't have that where I shop. The sticker just has a 3 or 4 digit number and the name of it.
*whisper* It kind of doesn't matter anyway because she admitted to having to weigh and manually input the product's weight anyway which was kind of my point. >.<
It was so much easier when I could just scan and be done but these days you have to scan, weigh, input, blarghety blargh... *sigh* Oh well...0 -
you actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
OMG..seriously..:explode: :explode: :explode:
See clean eating doesn't get bashed...this type of fallacy does...
Get a grip you have to count calories to lose weight.
Wow I guess it is ok to internet bully people around here
Um, yea .... I'm thinking she didn't expect to get hated on so much for this comment. I don't necessarily agree with what she said, but you guys are probably making her feels terrible right now.
Thank you. I really do feel bad, I didn't realize people were so harsh around here. what works for me might not work for someone else, we are all different. I think i am safe in saying we are all here for the same reason though. We should be more supportive of each other.
^^ Ok, now this *has* to be sarcasm. She has far too many posts for this to be serious!0 -
They don't have that where I shop. The sticker just has a 3 or 4 digit number and the name of it.
*whisper* It kind of doesn't matter anyway because she admitted to having to weigh and manually input the product's weight anyway which was kind of my point. >.<
It was so much easier when I could just scan and be done but these days you have to scan, weigh, input, blarghety blargh... *sigh* Oh well...
I don't bother to weigh apples. No matter what size, I round them to 75 calories each.0 -
Wow I guess it is ok to internet bully people around here
That wasn't bullying. It was being curt, big difference - you sensitive souls all need hugs.Thank you. I really do feel bad, I didn't realize people were so harsh around here. what works for me might not work for someone else, we are all different. I think i am safe in saying we are all here for the same reason though. We should be more supportive of each other.
Wrong.
We are not all here for the same reason
Sending explicit messages to top heavy lovelies... That's why we're here - yeah?
Is that what "mighty pirates" do these days?
<--Rectangular shape and wouldn't know.0 -
Is that what "mighty pirates" do these days?
<--Rectangular shape and wouldn't know.
It's what they've always done. AAAARRRR0 -
All food you buy has a bar code on it
Nope, it comes straight from the farm...0 -
penrbrown/moose - Can I just say that you've handled this beautifully considering all of the aggressive garbage that's being thrown around. I actually find it remarkable that despite how lovely you have been in your post and your replies, there are still people out there getting a happy by attacking you and others. You are an inspiration!
Just a summary guys, so far on a thread written for the purpose of having a friendly rant and some chit chat about entering individual ingredients on MFP we've had:
- Someone fairly aggressively attacked for trying to help (albiet with misguided information)
- A mildly interesting debate about fruit stickers
- OP's sanity brought into question
- Some people very affronted by the mere suggestion that you may spend a few more minutes a day logging your food than they do
- And now, some interfering busy body who cares very little about any of the above, and really isn't much of a clean eater
Just an observation...and an opportunity to commend OP on his/her graceful attitude to the angry people of MFP
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And someone without a sense of humor apparently. I've seen very few serious posts in this thread nor any actually "attacking" anyone.penrbrown/moose - Can I just say that you've handled this beautifully considering all of the aggressive garbage that's being thrown around. I actually find it remarkable that despite how lovely you have been in your post and your replies, there are still people out there getting a happy by attacking you and others. You are an inspiration!
Just a summary guys, so far on a thread written for the purpose of having a friendly rant and some chit chat about entering individual ingredients on MFP we've had:
- Someone fairly aggressively attacked for trying to help (albiet with misguided information)
- A mildly interesting debate about fruit stickers
- OP's sanity brought into question
- Some people very affronted by the mere suggestion that you may spend a few more minutes a day logging your food than they do
- And now, some interfering busy body who cares very little about any of the above, and really isn't much of a clean eater
Just an observation...and an opportunity to commend OP on his/her graceful attitude to the angry people of MFP0 -
penrbrown/moose - Can I just say that you've handled this beautifully considering all of the aggressive garbage that's being thrown around. I actually find it remarkable that despite how lovely you have been in your post and your replies, there are still people out there getting a happy by attacking you and others. You are an inspiration!
Just a summary guys, so far on a thread written for the purpose of having a friendly rant and some chit chat about entering individual ingredients on MFP we've had:
- Someone fairly aggressively attacked for trying to help (albiet with misguided information)
- A mildly interesting debate about fruit stickers
- OP's sanity brought into question
- Some people very affronted by the mere suggestion that you may spend a few more minutes a day logging your food than they do
- And now, some interfering busy body who cares very little about any of the above, and really isn't much of a clean eater
Just an observation...and an opportunity to commend OP on his/her graceful attitude to the angry people of MFP
Oh. *blush* Thank you.. shucks...
*blush blush*
And about all of that... I wouldn't take it too seriously. I've been around MFP long enough to know that's just how this place is. Sometimes people are joking and I take them seriously, sometimes they're serious and I presume they're joking, sometimes they're serious and I know they're serious and so I back off... either way I think the best way to approach MFP is with a great deal of good humor because you just never know how people are going to react and I just don't think fighting is how I want to spend my day.0 -
you actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
Because clean foods = magical properties!
QFT0 -
OP - amusing rant
Overly sensitive sorts - bullying is obviously not what you think it is. "get a grip" is not a bullying comment. Freaking out over people rightly pointing out bad information seems fairly ridiculous.
OP - back on topic - rather than recipes, maybe save up lots of the various foods you like that are a PITA to enter so you don't have to keep finding them in the general database. Then, if you make something using those foods, just pick and choose from your list -- quicker than searching sometimes. I haven't saved recipes yet - but I do have some favourite meals saved that I found myself entering over and over, such as my salads and roasted vegetables and lamb. It saves me a ton of time to just add that meal then tweak what is different.0 -
you actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
Yes because you can't over eat on a clean diet? Just like you can't over eat on a bulk!?!0 -
penrbrown/moose - Can I just say that you've handled this beautifully considering all of the aggressive garbage that's being thrown around. I actually find it remarkable that despite how lovely you have been in your post and your replies, there are still people out there getting a happy by attacking you and others. You are an inspiration!
Just a summary guys, so far on a thread written for the purpose of having a friendly rant and some chit chat about entering individual ingredients on MFP we've had:
- Someone fairly aggressively attacked for trying to help (albiet with misguided information)
- A mildly interesting debate about fruit stickers
- OP's sanity brought into question
- Some people very affronted by the mere suggestion that you may spend a few more minutes a day logging your food than they do
- And now, some interfering busy body who cares very little about any of the above, and really isn't much of a clean eater
Just an observation...and an opportunity to commend OP on his/her graceful attitude to the angry people of MFP
Oh. *blush* Thank you.. shucks...
*blush blush*
And about all of that... I wouldn't take it too seriously. I've been around MFP long enough to know that's just how this place is. Sometimes people are joking and I take them seriously, sometimes they're serious and I presume they're joking, sometimes they're serious and I know they're serious and so I back off... either way I think the best way to approach MFP is with a great deal of good humor because you just never know how people are going to react and I just don't think fighting is how I want to spend my day.
Spot on! 0 -
logging food is a pain in the *kitten*.
do you cook in big batches? I tend to make something like a curry, enter all the ingredients I used in the mfp recipe thing, and however many tubs it fits into = number of servings.
the annoying bit is I don't follow a recipe so its never the same twice.0 -
You guys seriously don't have the bar codes on the stickers?
Most of my foods don't have bar codes OR stickers. My meat is home grown. My vegetables usually lack any stickers. My bananas are the only fruit that has stickers on them and those stickers lack a bar code that scans.
since apples are different sizes, don't you have to weigh them whether you grow them or buy them?0 -
I can "eat clean" in unlimited quantities? That is great news. I'm going to go find a 16 ounce Porterhouse steak and pair it was a big pile of homemade mashed potatoes! Bring on the butter too.0
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you actually don't need to count calories if you eat clean.
I wish that was the case. I was a fat clean eater for many years.
Maybe if you were eating very calorie dense food and you switch to less dense food you could lose weight without counting but most people need to have some form of portion control to stay on track with their weightloss goals.
To answer the original question: I have gotten in the habit of weighing my meat and any higher calorie produce. Things like spinach or cucumbers I don't bother counting but more dense items like fruit or potatoes can really add up.0
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