Tip controversy - Hoax or misunderstanding?

2Heavy2Long
2Heavy2Long Posts: 315 Member
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Just read the following story on MSN. A gay female server posted on Facebook that instead of receiving a tip she was left a note that the customer didn't support her lifestyle. She posted a picture of the receipt showing a line through the tip amount and the note. The customer contacted a news station about the allegation. The showed a picture of the receipt that had a $18 tip written on it, along with the total amount. Their credit card statement confirms that the higher amount was indeed charged.

The server has been receiving tips and donations to the wounded warrior project.

Do you think the server was trying to pull off some type of hoax or is this a misunderstanding of some sort?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
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  • walleyclan1
    walleyclan1 Posts: 2,784 Member
    Attempt to gain pity and possibly financial gain
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    $15 for a wonton? :noway: Now THAT"S controversial!
  • FatHuMan1
    FatHuMan1 Posts: 1,028 Member
    From my experience, any problem involving just the tip, is not a misunderstanding. Most likely willful deceit.
  • Sovictorrious
    Sovictorrious Posts: 770 Member
    From my experience, any problem involving just the tip, is not a misunderstanding. Most likely willful deceit.

    Depends on where the tip is going.
  • 2Heavy2Long
    2Heavy2Long Posts: 315 Member
    Attempt to gain pity and possibly financial gain

    That is my take as well.

    She is sticking to her story, which the restaurant originally supported. Now they are investigating it further.

    The only other scenario I can come up with would involve a "pay at register" instead of the server handling the transaction. If the cashier noticed the customer forgot to right the amount on the "merchant copy," they could have run the card for the appropriate amount and pocketed the tip money then wrote the note.

    Curious if anyone is familiar with that restaurant and whether a cashier or server handles the checks??
  • p4ulmiller
    p4ulmiller Posts: 588 Member
    Fake.

    I'd love to see the receipt for the charity donation, although she'd probably forge that as well.

    Desparate attempt to screw honest hard-working people of of their money. Despicable.
  • FatHuMan1
    FatHuMan1 Posts: 1,028 Member
    Maybe the thinking was she didn't want the tip, being gay and all.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    From my experience, any problem involving just the tip, is not a misunderstanding. Most likely willful deceit.

    Depends on where the tip is going.

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  • KeViN_v2pt0
    KeViN_v2pt0 Posts: 375 Member
    I cant recall of one instance where I was friendly enough with my server to inquire or learn about their particular lifestyle.

    I guess I just dont give enough fks or am living life completely wrong.

    Oh well.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    Attempt to gain pity and possibly financial gain

    That is my take as well.

    She is sticking to her story, which the restaurant originally supported. Now they are investigating it further.

    The only other scenario I can come up with would involve a "pay at register" instead of the server handling the transaction. If the cashier noticed the customer forgot to right the amount on the "merchant copy," they could have run the card for the appropriate amount and pocketed the tip money then wrote the note.

    Curious if anyone is familiar with that restaurant and whether a cashier or server handles the checks??

    the patrons have their copy of the receipt and their credit card bill showing that the restaurant charged them for the full amount (including the tip they claim they gave).

    the waitress' story was 100% hoax.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Gay-Server-Tip-Lifestyle-Receipt-Discrepancy-233040811.html
  • oroblar
    oroblar Posts: 68 Member
    Hoax and pitiful attempt to raise more controversy surrounding her lifestyle and get some sympathy.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Just read the following story on MSN. A gay female server posted on Facebook that instead of receiving a tip she was left a note that the customer didn't support her lifestyle. She posted a picture of the receipt showing a line through the tip amount and the note. The customer contacted a news station about the allegation. The showed a picture of the receipt that had a $18 tip written on it, along with the total amount. Their credit card statement confirms that the higher amount was indeed charged.

    The server has been receiving tips and donations to the wounded warrior project.

    Do you think the server was trying to pull off some type of hoax or is this a misunderstanding of some sort?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
    I had seen that going around FB and I wondered then how in the world a customer knew the server's sexual orientation in the first place and so I doubted it then.

    Sounds like the server pilled a fast one, but I suppose if all the money went to a good cause, it evens out?
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    Just read the following story on MSN. A gay female server posted on Facebook that instead of receiving a tip she was left a note that the customer didn't support her lifestyle. She posted a picture of the receipt showing a line through the tip amount and the note. The customer contacted a news station about the allegation. The showed a picture of the receipt that had a $18 tip written on it, along with the total amount. Their credit card statement confirms that the higher amount was indeed charged.

    The server has been receiving tips and donations to the wounded warrior project.

    Do you think the server was trying to pull off some type of hoax or is this a misunderstanding of some sort?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
    I had seen that going around FB and I wondered then how in the world a customer knew the server's sexual orientation in the first place and so I doubted it then.

    Sounds like the server pilled a fast one, but I suppose if all the money went to a good cause, it evens out?

    not really, if the waitress and/or restaurant in any way disclosed the patrons identities, they have grounds for a libel suit. i have to assume that was the case, since why would this couple otherwise come forward to defend themselves.
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    Just read the following story on MSN. A gay female server posted on Facebook that instead of receiving a tip she was left a note that the customer didn't support her lifestyle. She posted a picture of the receipt showing a line through the tip amount and the note. The customer contacted a news station about the allegation. The showed a picture of the receipt that had a $18 tip written on it, along with the total amount. Their credit card statement confirms that the higher amount was indeed charged.

    The server has been receiving tips and donations to the wounded warrior project.

    Do you think the server was trying to pull off some type of hoax or is this a misunderstanding of some sort?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
    I had seen that going around FB and I wondered then how in the world a customer knew the server's sexual orientation in the first place and so I doubted it then.

    Sounds like the server pilled a fast one, but I suppose if all the money went to a good cause, it evens out?

    not really, if the waitress and/or restaurant in any way disclosed the patrons identities, they have grounds for a libel suit. i have to assume that was the case, since why would this couple otherwise come forward to defend themselves.

    also we don't know if the money actually went to the good cause. that bears investigation as well.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Just read the following story on MSN. A gay female server posted on Facebook that instead of receiving a tip she was left a note that the customer didn't support her lifestyle. She posted a picture of the receipt showing a line through the tip amount and the note. The customer contacted a news station about the allegation. The showed a picture of the receipt that had a $18 tip written on it, along with the total amount. Their credit card statement confirms that the higher amount was indeed charged.

    The server has been receiving tips and donations to the wounded warrior project.

    Do you think the server was trying to pull off some type of hoax or is this a misunderstanding of some sort?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
    I had seen that going around FB and I wondered then how in the world a customer knew the server's sexual orientation in the first place and so I doubted it then.

    Sounds like the server pilled a fast one, but I suppose if all the money went to a good cause, it evens out?

    not really, if the waitress and/or restaurant in any way disclosed the patrons identities, they have grounds for a libel suit. i have to assume that was the case, since why would this couple otherwise come forward to defend themselves.

    also we don't know if the money actually went to the good cause. that bears investigation as well.
    Agreed.

    I don't really know any details beyond the original photo and this thread. Like I said, I doubted it from the get-go, because how in the world would they know???
  • MyChocolateDiet
    MyChocolateDiet Posts: 22,281 Member
    Attempt to gain pity and possibly financial gain

    That is my take as well.

    She is sticking to her story, which the restaurant originally supported. Now they are investigating it further.

    The only other scenario I can come up with would involve a "pay at register" instead of the server handling the transaction. If the cashier noticed the customer forgot to right the amount on the "merchant copy," they could have run the card for the appropriate amount and pocketed the tip money then wrote the note.

    Curious if anyone is familiar with that restaurant and whether a cashier or server handles the checks??

    I like this theory. Hostess/cashier hates that waitress. Unassuming couple/fam comes in and are pawns in their strife. Explains why hostess says to expect "Dan" and also the note and knowing the lifestyle and pretty much the whole thing wraps up in a bow now. Except....waitress sets up paypal. Hmmmmmmmmmm? one thread undone.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    Just read the following story on MSN. A gay female server posted on Facebook that instead of receiving a tip she was left a note that the customer didn't support her lifestyle. She posted a picture of the receipt showing a line through the tip amount and the note. The customer contacted a news station about the allegation. The showed a picture of the receipt that had a $18 tip written on it, along with the total amount. Their credit card statement confirms that the higher amount was indeed charged.

    The server has been receiving tips and donations to the wounded warrior project.

    Do you think the server was trying to pull off some type of hoax or is this a misunderstanding of some sort?

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/26/21625339-family-disputes-gay-servers-story?lite
    I had seen that going around FB and I wondered then how in the world a customer knew the server's sexual orientation in the first place and so I doubted it then.

    Sounds like the server pilled a fast one, but I suppose if all the money went to a good cause, it evens out?

    not really, if the waitress and/or restaurant in any way disclosed the patrons identities, they have grounds for a libel suit. i have to assume that was the case, since why would this couple otherwise come forward to defend themselves.

    also we don't know if the money actually went to the good cause. that bears investigation as well.
    Agreed.

    I don't really know any details beyond the original photo and this thread. Like I said, I doubted it from the get-go, because how in the world would they know???

    they wouldn't know, but i have seen people leap to conclusions based solely on looks (and sometimes less info than that) all over the place.
  • Jersey_Devil
    Jersey_Devil Posts: 4,142 Member
    Oh- THATTTT kind of tip.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    they wouldn't know, but i have seen people leap to conclusions based solely on looks (and sometimes less info than that) all over the place.

    True. But I would hope someone wouldn't leave a note like that based on someone's haircut or something.

    I suppose it's possible she mentioned a "girlfriend" in passing chit-chat in a way that context made it clear the GF was an SO and not just a friend, though.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    in because I am always looking for a tip
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    in because I am always looking for a tip

    don't take candy from strangers in panel vans.

    you're welcome.
  • 2Heavy2Long
    2Heavy2Long Posts: 315 Member
    not really, if the waitress and/or restaurant in any way disclosed the patrons identities, they have grounds for a libel suit. i have to assume that was the case, since why would this couple otherwise come forward to defend themselves.

    The couple asked NBC not to reveal their names. Not sure why that would matter if the server revealed this information on FB. According to the story, they came forward because the story wasn't going away and they wanted people to know the money they were donating was under false pretenses.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    they wouldn't know, but i have seen people leap to conclusions based solely on looks (and sometimes less info than that) all over the place.

    True. But I would hope someone wouldn't leave a note like that based on someone's haircut or something.

    I suppose it's possible she mentioned a "girlfriend" in passing chit-chat in a way that context made it clear the GF was an SO and not just a friend, though.

    yeah...i would hope someone wouldn't leave a note, but at the same time, nothing would surprise me.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    in because I am always looking for a tip

    don't take candy from strangers in panel vans.

    you're welcome.

    nice tip brah!
  • carriem73
    carriem73 Posts: 333 Member
    this would have been so easy for the server to pull off- as a server, you run the credit cards throught the machine that charges- it is possible to reprint checks... she probably reprinted a check, and wrote on the duplicate.

    There is an easy way to prove whether or not she received the tip- at the end of a shirt, the servers have to reconcile all thier credit card charges in the machine- the tip had to have been added in at the reconciliation stage, or the charge would have shown up on the credit card statement at the original amount.

    If you want the video of the news confronting her, she can't give any answers- she is busted and she knows it....
  • kr1stadee
    kr1stadee Posts: 1,774 Member
    Would they have had a conversation about her lifestyle? I don't imagine so.

    If you look under the red circle on the reciept to the right, it says: 11/13 19:19 93.55 and it says Customer Copy so it would have already been processed through the terminal.

    Strange situation.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    $15 for a wonton? :noway: Now THAT"S controversial!

    Ahahaha!
  • 2Heavy2Long
    2Heavy2Long Posts: 315 Member
    Picture of server and one copy of the receipt.

    2D9697201-today-waitress-receipt-131115.blocks_desktop_tease.jpg
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
    Picture of server and one copy of the receipt.

    2D9697201-today-waitress-receipt-131115.blocks_desktop_tease.jpg
    Going out on a limb to say she probably was not in uniform when she was waiting tables. :-)
  • 2Heavy2Long
    2Heavy2Long Posts: 315 Member
    this would have been so easy for the server to pull off- as a server, you run the credit cards throught the machine that charges- it is possible to reprint checks... she probably reprinted a check, and wrote on the duplicate.

    There is an easy way to prove whether or not she received the tip- at the end of a shirt, the servers have to reconcile all thier credit card charges in the machine- the tip had to have been added in at the reconciliation stage, or the charge would have shown up on the credit card statement at the original amount.

    If you want the video of the news confronting her, she can't give any answers- she is busted and she knows it....

    You provide a great explanation for how she could have pulled it off, but what is still unclear is why the restaurant originally supporter her story. They should have been able to easily tell whether or not the lower amount was processed.

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