CHIP Diet

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,140 Member
    Personally I don't belive in any "Cleansing" diet. You body cleanses itself daily, if you well and put good stuff in, your liver and kidneys and other associated organs do just fine in removing the waste.

    I am highly skeptical of any fadish diet that wants you to conform to thier menu's and I see that CHIPS even though supposedly endorsed by physicians that wants you to pay for courses, cookbooks and the like. SOME may be legit, but most times it just comes down to separting you from your money. Nutrition and diet information is free, you can ask your own doctor.

    Another thing that gets me about these things is that they want you to "cleanse" your body and then possibly drastically alter your eating habits, for minor changes over time work the best. You can do it for a short while, but then I at least am more apt to resume my old habits.

    Just eat well and in moderation, exercise and your body will take care of itself.

    That's just my two cents, no offense OP:smile:

    I know this is an old topic, but I thought I would add to it for anyone who might be interested.

    I happen to be quite familiar with the CHIP (Coronary Health Improvement Project) program. I am part of a group which one of our projects has been offering this course to the community twice a year for the last four years. I myself used to be a skeptic, but after seeing the results, I have become a believer in it.

    I wanted to address some of your concerns regarding the program. Also, to note, all of my experience is referencing the CHIP program before it's overhaul. The CHIP program was bought by another organization and has been revamped just recently (fall 2012), therefore, we will not be running our first course with the new ownership/structure until this spring.

    First, as for the money part, I can assure you that the CHIP program is not out to make money off of you (At least up until now. That may be changing.) The cost we charged participants for the program was $165/individual and $265 for couples. That may sound like a lot, but about 90% of that cost covered textbooks, lab fees (blood screens are done twice during the program), and four weeks of classes at 4 days a week among other costs. Beyond the initial class fee, there is no cost. Participants are not required to purchase any special food provided by CHIP or even restricted to any special cookbooks. The entire program is based around teaching how to be healthy by eating well. Put in perspective of a "class" and not a "diet," the CHIP fees are relatively inexpensive. (That is changing, much to my dismay, as the new owners have jacked up the costs to nearly $400/person to take the class.)

    Second, I can assure you this is not a "fad" diet. In short, the CHIP diet is a whole foods diet which promotes, although does not require, a plant based diet. The primary thing is eating whole foods and avoiding processed foods, added salts, sugars, etc.

    The "cleanse" part of the diet is more or less intended to cleanse the pallet as much as cleanse the body of toxins. Sure, your liver does that everyday, but just like you, your liver likes a break. Slow change is good, but a large part of the idea behind the cleanse is that eating healthier will be easier if you can bear the "cleanse" (which really isn't that bad) for a few days. Your taste buds completely regenerate themselves every 10 days, and if you do things like eliminate added salts, sugars, etc through the cleanse, food that may seem bland next to a McDonald's burger and fries have much more appeal, and it makes it easier to make the change. Also, being part of a program makes it much easier for people to support each other and make it through.

    Finally, I personally have witnessed the amazing results of this program. It is true that in some cases people have reversed diabetes and other diseases. I have seen cases of people loosing lots of weight and their cholesterol dropping upwards of 50 points during the program. More than one participant just in our small community has been able to completely go off of blood pressure medications (after consulting with their doctor) because of the changes. People who could barely walk without pain are pain free by the end of the program. I know it sounds miraculous, but I have witness these stories firsthand. As to your statement about doctors knowing good health, that is not as true as you think. Doctors have relatively little education on nutrition and preventative health. They are trained to fix problems more than they are to solve them. That is not true for all physicians, and is becoming less true today, but historically, and largely still today, that was/is the case.

    Long story short, if you look at CHIP as not so much a "diet" but education for better health, I can assure you it is an amazing program with fabulous results.

    As for the "new" CHIP (now called Complete Health Improvement Project), the fundamentals are largely still the same, and those who began the program and still largely involved, but I will have to wait and see if they are still successful in reaching those who really need this program. I am disappointed they have raised the cost for the class so much because unfortunately those who can least afford it are likely those who might need it in many cases.
    If a person lives in Hawaii do you think spam would work well into this diet?
  • TrishLG
    TrishLG Posts: 173 Member
    Vegetables and fruit have protein. Think of it this way. We get a lot of protein and calcium from cows; all the dairy products and red meat. But what does the cow eat to make all that protein and calcium? All grass. But we as humans can have a wide range of fruits and vegetables and still get all the calcium and protein we need.
    When one of the government programs to feed the poor, maybe SNAP, came out with their guidelines, it included all fresh fruit and vegetables except potatoes. The head of the Potato Growers Association decided to make a point and put himself on an all potato diet for about 3 months. He lost something like 60 pounds, dropped his sugar, cholesterol, and blood pressure.
    People think that whole grain bread or pasta or even brown rice is healthier than potatoes, but they are wrong,. Potatoes contain the highest level of potassium of any of the fruits or vegetables and plenty of fiber.
    I am not advocating vegan diet or potato diet, just making a point that Americans, especially, always sell short plenty of fruits and vegetables in the diet.
    Perhaps the best diet is the vegan diet, according to the China Study, but just use dairy and animal in moderation.
  • TrishLG
    TrishLG Posts: 173 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!

    That's what I thought too! :laugh: Add some salsa to those chips and we have the Ultimate Chip Diet. :bigsmile:
  • TX_Rhon
    TX_Rhon Posts: 1,549 Member
    I had to re-read the title because I thought there was some sort of potato chip diet and I'm all for that. Never heard of the CHIP diet!

    Me Too! I was a set and ready to break out the pringles and go to town:bigsmile:

    Pringles are so 1990! Lays regular chips are my fav!

    Never tried the CHIP thingy and probably won't since the calorie counting thing is working and I can get in a real chip here in there.

    Good luck :smile:
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    Pass the chips, please. With extra toxins. I love the toxins.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    Your body full of amazing organs already has a wonderful system of cleaning any/all "toxins" out of your body.

    What kind of poisons am I eating? I assume you mean tasty tasty poisons!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I've never done a "cleanse" of any kind because my doc said they are all bad. it's like giving yourself food poisoning for a week (or however long it lasts). it's not good for you GI, you'll lose good bacteria. You'll gain most of the initial "loss" back because it's mostly water (you'll get dehydrated).
    Just go with the sensible eating, additional exercise plan. I know a quick boost is tempting, but not worth the potential problems.

    :-)

    Thanks. I already know that but this cleanse consists of eating natural foods like whole grains, veggies and fruits verses drinking salt water or the lemonade thing.


    And where's your protein??

    Grains and veggies have protein. Unless the cleanse prohibits beans, then protein should not be a problem.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    Has anyone tried to go on the CHIP diet or did the 7 day jump start cleanse? I want to know how it worked or works for you.

    It is called the Optimal Diet. CHIP stands for Coronary Health Improvement Project. Except for the Jumpstart cleansing thing it is isn't really a diet it's just a program set up to teach you how to eat and live for maximum health and well-being on a permanent basis.

    During the cleanse you are eating as much as you want of whole grains, fruits and veggies without salt, oils butter and stuff.

    go here for more info http://www.chiphealth.com/

    IMO any "fad diet" or diet with "Cleanse" in it is just a waste of money.

    I can change my eating habits, eat at a calorie deficit, enjoy what I eat, and save money, all while losing weight.

    What is wrong with butter and salt? both are fabulously delicious!
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    By definition, a toxin is poison. If you have poison in your body, you should drive straight to the ER. otherwise, it's complete and utter non-sense. You do not have toxins in your body. Sheesh.

    Unless you're this guy

    Toxic_avengerposter.jpg
  • mycupyourcake
    mycupyourcake Posts: 279 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.
    +1 I'm tired of seeing people trash cleanses on this board. You all go on eating your brominated
    vegetable oil, msg, BHT, BHA, TBHQ, sodium nitrite and nitrate and all your artificial sweeteners, colors and flavors. Yum!
  • mycupyourcake
    mycupyourcake Posts: 279 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    Your body full of amazing organs already has a wonderful system of cleaning any/all "toxins" out of your body.

    What kind of poisons am I eating? I assume you mean tasty tasty poisons!

    Yes our body is full of amazing organs that clean the toxins that we daily put into it, but that doesn't mean that we can't damage those organs with toxic overload. Ever heard of cirrhosis of the liver?
  • mycupyourcake
    mycupyourcake Posts: 279 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    By definition, a toxin is poison. If you have poison in your body, you should drive straight to the ER. otherwise, it's complete and utter non-sense. You do not have toxins in your body. Sheesh.

    This is just ignorance. We put toxins into our bodies all the time without needing to drive to the ER. My friend just had her Dr. inject her forehead with a neurotoxin called botulinum. I guess it makes her feel pretty and stuff. I just drank some toxins the other night when I had a lovely glass of wine.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.
    +1 I'm tired of seeing people trash cleanses on this board. You all go on eating your brominated
    vegetable oil, msg, BHT, BHA, TBHQ, sodium nitrite and nitrate and all your artificial sweeteners, colors and flavors. Yum!

    Do you get frequent nosebleeds up there on that high horse?
  • Cortelli
    Cortelli Posts: 1,369 Member
    Tried the CHIP diet for 1 month a while back. Really slimmed down and managed to buff out my upper body a bit -- see pic:


    ErikE_zps7c7cb77a.jpg

    I'm here all week - try the veal!
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    Your body full of amazing organs already has a wonderful system of cleaning any/all "toxins" out of your body.

    What kind of poisons am I eating? I assume you mean tasty tasty poisons!

    Yes our body is full of amazing organs that clean the toxins that we daily put into it, but that doesn't mean that we can't damage those organs with toxic overload. Ever heard of cirrhosis of the liver?

    Yes!

    Didn't see where the OP stated they had Cirrhosis.


    Still not sure what toxins you or anyone is refering to!
    I typically put food and drink into my body, they aare filled with nutrients that help fuel my sheer awesomeness.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Cleaning toxins out of the system is not really silly. The American diet is loaded with toxins. Look at all the chemicals on nearly any food label. They do not even list the chemicals that went on the plants before they were picked. We are poisoning ourselves with bad food and chemicals which "in small quantities should be tolerated by the average person."
    Some foods are hard on the digestive system, like cheese and beef. If a person wanted to flush the toxins out of the system, a diet of high fiber, organic fruits and vegetables would clear it out.

    By definition, a toxin is poison. If you have poison in your body, you should drive straight to the ER. otherwise, it's complete and utter non-sense. You do not have toxins in your body. Sheesh.

    We all have toxins in our bodies. We mostly get them from food, water and air.