Those who cut out sugar

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  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    There isn't a single food in the collective human diet that we've "always eaten." The human diet has changed drastically many times. Our adaptability and ability to survive and thrive while eating a constantly changing array of foods, and our ability to change and create our own foods, is pretty much the entire reason for our evolutionary success as a species.

    The "avoid it because we haven't always eaten it" argument is completely without merit. Heck, there isn't even a food we eat today that's the same as it was 500 years ago, with the possible exceptions of sugar and salt.
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    There isn't a single food in the collective human diet that we've "always eaten." The human diet has changed drastically many times. Our adaptability and ability to survive and thrive while eating a constantly changing array of foods, and our ability to change and create our own foods, is pretty much the entire reason for our evolutionary success as a species.

    The "avoid it because we haven't always eaten it" argument is completely without merit. Heck, there isn't even a food we eat today that's the same as it was 500 years ago, with the possible exceptions of sugar and salt.

    That is why I said "pick the facts you like." You didn't even read any of what I said and you just start throwing Wikipedia at me to prove your point. My goal was to get people to be moderates and to recognize other ideas. I don't know how you pulled this out argument out, but you managed.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    I read what you wrote. I also corrected facts that were wrong. Listing incorrect information is always a problem, because some people lurk in threads, and then they may end up believing things that aren't true, because they don't get involved in the discussion long enough to learn. It's not to start an argument. It's to ensure that correct information is being shared.
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    I feel that if I say, "The sky is blue and polar bears are white" somebody is going to jump in and tell me that the fur of polar bears is actually transparent (which it is.) :wink:

    I'll stop putting numbers out there and I'll try and be as clear as I can while I leave this thread to the arguments:


    Sugar, Yum Yum
    Cut out sugar if you want,
    then don't expect to eat a croissant.
    Don't eat it too much
    it might make your tummy hurt
    and such.
    Don't mix it with alcohol, and don't get it in your eye.
    Don't put it in your car (it might melt in the sun! har har), but do store it in a jar.
    Don't confuse it with the salt,
    and if it makes you fat, well,
    that is your own damn fault!
  • lisabinco
    lisabinco Posts: 1,016 Member
    Fruit is healthy. Obviously if you eat too much you can gain weight from all the natural sugars contained within them. But natural sugar provides energy, not to mention the plethora of vitamins you get from fruit. Fruit is also a naturally sweet food, and will stop you from reaching into the cookie jar. Jonesing for a piece of cake or ice cream? Eat a fruit. It'll sate the sweet craving.

    I recommend avoiding all added sugars, including artificial sweeteners. The easiest way to accomplish this is to eat *real* food as made in nature, not processed food.

    As stated before, any diet or advice that suggests eliminating ALL fruit should set off warning bells.
    ^^This^^ -- pretty much, anyway. I eat as much fruit as I want. Fruit is nutritious. I'm not afraid of the carbs or the natural sugars. I'm going for nutrition and health, not just weight loss here. I rarely eat refined sugar in any amount. If it doesn't have any nutritional value, it's not worth the calories to me.
  • mrbat
    mrbat Posts: 12 Member
    hit macros - what does that mean?
  • stoj8
    stoj8 Posts: 5
    You can eat any food you crave.

    I eat heaps of fruit and achieve a 200 calorie deficit.

    Fruits that are nutrient dense and low in calorie are ones to choose!
    example 100g of rockmelon contains over 60% of your daily vitamin A and Vitamin C requirement.
    100g = 30 calories, yess only 30 calories, half a kilogram is 150calories.
    that will fill you up as a snack.
    Watermelon is also 30 calories per 100g, plus contains L-citrulline, a pre-cursor to L-arginine, a precursor to Nitric Oxide,
    identified by Nobel Prize winners - three scientists from UCLA in 1998.
    !
    Ensure you balance carbs with protein, ie 150-200g of each is ideal. Ensure a calorie deficit of about 200.
    Eat nutrient dense foods fruits vegetables, lentils, brown rice...
    Avoid sweets, chocolates, or white bread as you could over-indulge and blow your daily calorie budget in 10mins!
  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7OCqV4JjZY

    This is a talk by a graduate school level biochem and physiology professor who did scientific literature reviews on how sugar affects appetite.

    I don't understand every word he says, I don't have the proper education for it, but it was still educational. And before someone says it, I know this is slanted in that the speaker has a clear viewpoint. However, it is interesting and well researched, by someone with a background in areas related to the subject.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Everyone is over simplifying things to prove their own point.

    1) Too many calories will make you fat.
    2) Refined sugar was not part of our diet before the 1400's so if you don't want to eat it, go ahead and don't.
    3) Refined sugar can be addictive. If you are susceptible to sweets and feel that they hinder your weight loss, don't eat it.
    4) Too much sugar makes your stomach hurt.
    5) Sugar tastes good, so eat it if you want.
    6) Sugar isn't entirely nutritious, so don't base your diet around it.

    There, that is a bunch of random facts. Pick through whatever ones make you happy and whatever works for you. We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime. But then we shouldn't go the other way and simplify things down to "eat clean", because sometimes that just isn't reasonable or realistic.

    all I am saying is that you can eat sugar - added, fruit sugar, whatever - and lose weight…anyone that says they "cut out sugar" and that is why they lost weight is full of BS….its the calorie deficit that caused weight loss, not avoiding a certain food group...
  • Polda2010
    Polda2010 Posts: 99 Member
    Ok so this is what I think. I don't do so called bad sugars, I just don't do well on them and Diabetes runs in my family on both sides. However, I've noticed you are a new mommy. 1st of all Congratulations on your new baby boy :flowerforyou: ..but where I am getting at is the question of breastfeeding... Do you breastfeed? If so in my honest opinion you'll need some sugars, especially those coming from the nice healthy sources such as fruits which are also loaded with vitamins and minerals of which you both need. I think your OB Doctor has dietary guidelines for breast feeding new moms. I hope this helps and there is nothing wrong with a piece of chocolate every now and then:wink:
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  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member

    . We shouldn't simplify things down to calories in vs. calories out in every circumstance, because eating 1800 calories a day of pure refined sugar is going to **** you up harder than Tyson in his prime.

    Yeah, because people are always going around eating nothing but sugar. :noway:
  • GingerLolita
    GingerLolita Posts: 738 Member
    I clicked on this thread hoping it would give me some helpful advice; I'm hoping to cut out processed sugar to help with my PMDD, as that is a common recommendation. But people just like to go on for pages about how you don't need to cut out sugar, unless you have a medical issue. But you weren't asking for their opinion anyway.

    Of course, eat fruit until you're told to avoid it, because it includes many important nutrients. However, even 100% fruit juice (and fruit-veg juice blends) often have large amounts of sugar, so don't drink your calories and sugar! Check the nutrition information on all packages. I'm still new to cutting out sugar, but these were my starting points.
  • nyhockeyguy
    nyhockeyguy Posts: 6 Member
    is the tracking of Macro Nutrients dependent upon when intake occurs, such as a morning intake of protein, but a dinner full or carbs? Thnx, b/c I have never heard of this and am new to MFP, and have lost almost 20 lbs just by tracking my foods (calories), but looking to get "better" at it.
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    I am reading this thread for the first time, and have a Q.. what is a Macro Nutrient?

    Protein, fat and carbohydrates are macro nutrients.
    Vitamins and minerals are micro nutrients.
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  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    is the tracking of Macro Nutrients dependent upon when intake occurs, such as a morning intake of protein, but a dinner full or carbs? Thnx, b/c I have never heard of this and am new to MFP, and have lost almost 20 lbs just by tracking my foods (calories), but looking to get "better" at it.


    You edited so I didn't read this part.

    I focus on balancing my macros over the day. For instance, if I had sushi, that's pretty carb heavy. On that day, my other meal will likely be protein and lower carb veggies to balance it out.

    You might want to check out this post
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/819055-setting-your-calorie-and-macro-targets
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    in for another thread where food is called bad, dirty and unclean.

    Where people argue that it's not just calories in/calories out and that the type of food you eat matters as well. :laugh: :laugh:
  • 3dogsrunning
    3dogsrunning Posts: 27,167 Member
    in for another thread where food is called bad, dirty and unclean.

    Where people argue that it's not just calories in/calories out and that the type of food you eat matters as well. :laugh: :laugh:

    It's kind of an old thread now.
  • sassyred3233
    sassyred3233 Posts: 7
    to each there own. I for one cut out all sugar except fruit. which includes liqour or beer. I do this because if I dont thats what I crave and it effects me with shaking & stomach aches. you need to choose what works for you but I dont want any of that processed junk. I feel much better when I dont eat sugar. It is about calories in verse out but for a better general over all feeling I cut the sugar
  • Skarlet13
    Skarlet13 Posts: 146 Member
    Well I'm gluten free so most of my carbs don't contain any added sugar. I do eat fruit though. No reason to stop that.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    in for another thread where food is called bad, dirty and unclean.

    Where people argue that it's not just calories in/calories out and that the type of food you eat matters as well. :laugh: :laugh:

    ^^^ This!!! :laugh:

    I must be doing it wrong!! :laugh:

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