Women Hate

I am from india and I know what you mean. Though it has not been the case in my families (I would consider myself lucky) and many others.. but thats still a mentality which exist in india. Very few people actually want a girl. Even if its a girl and she turns out to be of a dark skin tone, there will be no end to her woes. Girls, specially girls with a dark complexion is considered as a burden to family. Its a sick mentality. There are activists, protests but it is going to take a long time to change peoples mentality.

Oh, it all sounds so horrible.

It's good to know that there are people fighting it. I hope change is seen. Change takes a long time, always, but it will come.

Well first, you have to realize that in China and India the situations are not the same. In China, the reason for high mortality for girls is because of the one child policy. Girls are not necessarily undesireable in China, but it's very important to have a boy to carry down the family name. So, under circumstances where the one child policy didn't exist, having a girl wouldn't be a problem. For those of you who don't know what the one child policy is, China will pay for your first child's schooling, health care, food, etc as it is a communist nation. They will not pay for anything for your second child, so if you want your child immunized or sent to school, you have to pay for it out of pocket. That encourages many poorer families to abort girls or get rid of them because of the importance of carrying on the family name and the inability to care for a second child.

In India, it's a different story. Historically, before marriage, the parents of the daughter must present the future husband's family with a gift. This gift is often in the form of money, cattle, or anything else of value. The gift must be agreed upon by the husband's family, so if they want to be greedy they can. The reason for this gift is that once married, the husband's family takes the woman into their home and supports her. Marriage is extremely important in Indian culture and once again if they can't afford it, they may often abort their daughter.

The circumstances of the world are very unfortunate, but people who are barely able to afford to eat take desperate measures. If you've never traveled to a third world country and experienced extreme poverty, I'd recommend it. It's very eye opening and enlightening. You definitely no longer take for granted your own life.

Taken from http://english.cri.cn/7146/2013/02/26/2702s750680.htm ***** It is not only a population problem, but also a grave social problem as many men will fail to find a wife. It's estimated that by 2020, China will have 24 million more men than women of marriageable age on the mainland. That means men have to compete against each other to find a wife and women's parents in China are now requiring more than before. For example, some parents will only allow their daughter to marry if the suitor owns a home and a car. Professor Wei Shangjin of Columbia University in the US even said on Fortune magazine that lonely single men are contributing to China's rising house prices.***** So what will the millions of single men who wish to marry do instead ?

One of the social problems in a society that destroys its female infants is that you end up with too few women of marriageable (aka breeding) age a few years down the line. I read somewhere that this can cause an increase in rape as there are a large number of young men who are not sexually satisfied and have no prospect of becoming so through legitimate means. Also, although dowries are common and traditional in many parts of india, the opposite is become prevalent in some parts i.e. women of marriageable age are so rare that people are having to buy their sons a wife.

Not to mention dowry killings where men will marry women for the dowry and then kill them so they can marry again.

Did anyone else read the first sentence in their head with Will Smith's voice?

I really mean no offense, but you're just now discovering patriarchy (and misogyny) at 22 years old? Where have you been?

In america's public school system.
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Boom

It's a good thing they don't kill all of the girl babies or their race would die out.

i think its china(i could be wrong) but a daughter cant carry on the family company the son has to / should so if they have a daughter they usually go and adopt a son or something. but yeah some countries are just completely messed up. the only thing i like about china is the one baby limit

Not trying to change the subject, but curious why you like China's one baby limit...

Watch jeremy kyle. and lets face it the world is getting more and more and more overpopulated.
its like those people on benefits who keep on having kids just so they can get more money. those people should have been castrated / spayed at birth

I'm just curious how someone would know, at birth, if the baby would grow up to pop out a bunch of kids for profit?

You know... For the "drain on society, spay and neuter" program.

Sorcery.

My husband travels to India frequently for business and I went with him for 10 days. What an eye opener.

We were out and I met a very pretty Indian girl, and when it started to get to be dusk she told he she had to go because if a single woman is out alone after dark it is telling men she wants to be raped. :noway: (this was before the New Delhi bus rape).

Not only is the mentality toward women really effed up over there, the whole caste system blows my mind. In India you are either very rich, or very poor. And I mean VERY poor. If you are poor and a woman, God help you. We were out to dinner one night with a man who calls himself "The Chairman" - what a d!ck. I drank 5 glasses of wine at dinner just to keep my mouth shut since my husband is his structural engineer on his schools he builds over there. This guy was so pompous he wouldn't even talk to the waitress (WAY to beneath him) so he told his architect, in front of the waitress, what he wanted to order and drink - every time she came to the table, and the architect then told the waitress who I am SURE heard him in the first place.

India pretty much really left me feeling disheartened and sad, which is funny for such a "spiritual" place. I obviously didn't go check myself into an Ashram and meditate for 10 days. All the nice places are behind walls with guards and people (babies and children) live in cardboard boxes built against the walls outside. I guess if I lived in India I'd be hoping for the next life too - especially if I was a woman.

I know what you mean. I stay in a different city than my parents and they are in constant fear of something happening to me(read rape). If I am out even after 8.30pm and specially if I am not with a guy, they start panicking and calling me. I am pretty sure all these sounds really strange to people who are coming from foreign countries but this is the reality.

As for the Chairman, I think it was just him. I am pretty sure majority of Indians are not like that. But I will not deny the fact that Indians have become oblivious to the presence of poor people around them. We will see a beggar or a homeless person, but we wont feel the same way as our western counterparts. There is actually one of thing, some people are poor because they dont bother getting a job. They are okay with the lifestyle they lead. There is no dearth of work in India, but some people will just work on daily wages somewhere, spent it on alcohol, spent their wives wages on alcohol, sent their kids to work and send their money also on alcohol and beat them up when his wife cannot put food in front of him at night.

I guess it has a lot to do with dowry system. After delivery some of my patients scream as if they have lost everything, if its a baby girl. some patients who have had severe obstetric complications and who have been strongly advised against future pregnancies go for sixth or seventh pregnancies and lose their lives because in laws insist on a grandson. its more common in rural India though. with education many people think differently. I was not aware of this preference for a son thing till I went to another state for studies. It is heartbreaking to say the least.