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Serious bone to pick (Diet Fads)

KyaniBody

Good afternoon all,

First off I want to give you a disclaimer. These are my thoughts and beliefs. I am a natural bodybuilder and have literally hundreds of friends who are natural pro competitors. Females and Males.

I am sitting here reading a lot of your posts and I am disgusted. Here are some bullet points I want to touch on. Just a heads up I am a If It Fits Your Macros dieter. I get shredded off of weighing everything I eat. I do NOT eat fish and vegetables all day long..

#1 STOP STARVING YOURSELVES. You are absolutely ruining your metabolism. Do you ever wonder why you drop in weight so fast in the beginning and then all of a sudden you stop and can't lose anymore weight? Guess what! Since you starved yourself your body now needs one of two things to drop more weight. You either need to cut calories every more, or up your physical activity. Unless you are extremely obese you should be losing 1-2 pounds a week. When you take a slow approach and preserve more lean muscle mass you will be able to burn more calories at rest then if you starved yourself. Take a slower approach and enjoy more calories! When you are at your target weight you will be able to maintain that weight while eating more food.

#2 STOP CUTTING OUT A WHOLE MACRO NUTRIENT! We all need protein, fat and CARBS to function correctly. Bread, sugar, sodium etc are not the problem. Everything needs to be within limitations though. For example, I currently am losing weight on 220g Protein, 225g Carbs and 50g of fat. I highly suggest you track your food and weigh it. Far too often I have found food labels to be incorrect. Example it says 50 chips = 28 grams. When I actually weigh it out, 25 chips equal the 1 serving size. Carbs and Fat aren't the devil. Everything is within limitations.

#3 Females you need more protein! No you will not get big and bulky. You will put on quality lean muscle mass. Eat 1g of protein per pound of body weight. Generally females struggle with getting an ample amount of protein every day.

#4 You don't need to do 2 hours of cardio a day. Please incorporate free weight training as well. Once again you will not get big and bulky ladies.

#5 there is no magic pill or quick approach. This is a complete lifestyle change. Yes there will be times when you are hungry and want to give up. Don't quit on yourself. Stop thinking other people have more will power etc then you. We all have a choice and can make the same decisions.

#6 Do not STRESS over meal frequency. You do not need to eat every 2-3 hours... The further in your diet though your metabolism will be on fire and you will want to eat every 2-3 hours though

#7 Do not STRESS over eating late at night. It DOES NOT matter what you eat later at night. Once again hit your targets. Calories in vs Calories out

#8 Drink plenty of water. This boosts your metabolism and helps keep you fuller feeling.

#9 Prepare your food in advanced so you don't give yourself an excuse to fail. Yes you will be tired, no you won't want to do it. Guess what? DO IT!

#10 Don't worry about Sodium and Sugar. Follow the 4 things I told you to track and you will be fine.

#11 I would definitely take supplements. If you want some recommendations let me know.

I am not a Dr. and do not work with certain illnesses etc. I am however a Personal Trainer and Specialist in Performance Nutrition. These are just my recommendations. I follow these same principals and a lot of my Professional bodybuilders follow the same.

Here is to a better you!

I will leave you with a quote. "If it's important to you, you will find a way. If not, you will find and excuse."

Replies

KnM0107

There may be people asking about Weight watchers, Gluten-free or Low Carb around here but I do not really see the pervasiveness of fad diets you mentioned on this forum. These are almost always instantly discredited, with users pointing those asking for help about these diets to the tried and true caloric deficit. Maybe I just don't read enough posts!

you have not been here long enough ..stick around and you will see posts about raspberry ketones, diet pills, cleanses, 7 day juice fasts/water fasts, etc….trust me.

No one is talking about that. I don't know why people are such close minded on here sometimes. Keto is a legitimate LIFESTYLE choice. It takes a ****load of commitment to do, far more than what the OP is advocating in his "balanced" approach.

Yes, you do go though a flu period of about 3-5 days where you don't feel good. I went thought it myself. But once you get out, you feel amazing. Your body is switching into ketosis and using fat instead of carbs. Generally people see too much weightloss initially since first you will dump water, then burn fat stored in organs (et al the liver). Part of the success is integrating exercise in. I run on keto and do lifting and I feel just fine. I drink my protein shake, eat lots of bacon, and keto on.

This is a diet used in many medical circumstances from diabetics to cancer to epilepsy. If you don't believe me, look it up. But stop spreading misinformation.

You seem to think everyone will have the same experience with keto as you did... That seems pretty closed minded to me.
Glad you can eat tons of bacon though. Red meat and pork both make me incredibly ill.

KnM0107

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

I like the original post, but this comment isn't really needed...

Sabine_Stroehm

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

The assumption being we should want to look as he does? Or relate to food as he does? Sorry, not me. I have no issue with the OP, other than it sounding a bit preachy and single minded. But why assume we share his goals? Perhaps you do, but many don't.

ninerbuff

With the exception of number #11, the rest is pretty solid advice.

But OP, please don't start trying to endorse products on here. Not only is it against the rules, but companies that work in MLM form are highly rejected by the community in large.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

ndj1979

There may be people asking about Weight watchers, Gluten-free or Low Carb around here but I do not really see the pervasiveness of fad diets you mentioned on this forum. These are almost always instantly discredited, with users pointing those asking for help about these diets to the tried and true caloric deficit. Maybe I just don't read enough posts!

you have not been here long enough ..stick around and you will see posts about raspberry ketones, diet pills, cleanses, 7 day juice fasts/water fasts, etc….trust me.

No one is talking about that. I don't know why people are such close minded on here sometimes. Keto is a legitimate LIFESTYLE choice. It takes a ****load of commitment to do, far more than what the OP is advocating in his "balanced" approach.

Yes, you do go though a flu period of about 3-5 days where you don't feel good. I went thought it myself. But once you get out, you feel amazing. Your body is switching into ketosis and using fat instead of carbs. Generally people see too much weightloss initially since first you will dump water, then burn fat stored in organs (et al the liver). Part of the success is integrating exercise in. I run on keto and do lifting and I feel just fine. I drink my protein shake, eat lots of bacon, and keto on.

This is a diet used in many medical circumstances from diabetics to cancer to epilepsy. If you don't believe me, look it up. But stop spreading misinformation.

I never said anything about keto ....I was talking about water fasts, juice fasts, raspberry ketones, etc...

Way to go overboard though ..

All I have to say about keto is that it is not some magical fat burning solution. I am happy it works for you, but what you have really done is just create a calorie deficit...

misschoppo

Bimp

JoshuaElement

lol - Apparently everyone in here has a Bachelors in Health Science and Nutrition & Dietetics.

So many know-it-all's who know everything about nothing.

dunnodunno

Bump!

KyaniBody

Natural meaning I don't take steroids or banned substances.

you believe in natural weight loss but take supplements? :indifferent:

My goal is 160 protein per day and 120 carbs. The days I feel the BEST is when i eat more protein then that and under 100 carbs, but do not freak out if I am over on carbs. Store bread makes me lethargic/tired and makes me feel really stuffed and heavy. Homemade bread varies depending on the recipe.

naturally low sugar foods seems to help me the best.

I do take a bunch of vitamins. I am Vitamin D deficient and as a result am deficient in other vitamins. I hope to get back to taking just vitamin D. I also want to replace the protein powder but I find it hard to reach my macors without it most days.

My food choices are pretty automatic now. I can pretty much throw together a days worth of food without pre-logging and come very close to my goals. Eating it all is sometimes still a challenge however, since protein makes me feel full longer.

KyaniBody

For any doubters and anyone just thinking people are genetically gifted etc.... I can message before and after pictures tonight. I will show you me at 230 pounds when I wasn't weight training and only focusing on my career.

It frustrates me that people argue just to argue. Ever think that this might be the reason you aren't achieving your goals? Stop looking for excuses and get going. I know it sounds harsh but we all need to hold ourselves accountable. Our success and failures are our own.

I will message them to any doubters. Just send me a message asking for them. You will be shocked how different one looks.

just_Jennie1

you believe in natural weight loss but take supplements?

Not sure I get your point.

Supplements give the body the nutrients that it is deficient in. One can argue the "I get allllllll my nutrients through the foods I eat!" but I personally don't believe that unless you get your blood tested and can conclusively say yes, I am deficient in XYZ. I get my blood tested twice a year and adjust my vitamins accordingly because although I eat well balanced, healthy, meals I am still deficient in certain vitamins.

I did not read supplements as vitamins. I read it as supplements. I don't claim to get all my vitamins naturally because I use protein powder and take vitamins. I also have a vitamin D deficiency so i'll have to take that for the rest of my life. That was my point. vitamins are not natural, nor are supplements or protein powders.

My bad. Vitamins are also called supplements. Hence my confusion.

MelodyandBarbells

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

I like the original post, but this comment isn't really needed...

Exactly. Isn't that the kind of attitude that makes people come here saying, "my ripped trainer told me I didn't need food so I'm starving myself to lose weight."

ndj1979

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

I like the original post, but this comment isn't really needed...

Exactly. Isn't that the kind of attitude that makes people come here saying, "my ripped trainer told me I didn't need food so I'm starving myself to lose weight."

I believe the poster is trying to say that everyone arguing against the OP's advice, appears to be starting at the beginning and is not really sure what they are doing.

Now, was it said in the best way, probably not..but I get what the person is trying to say.

Madmarsha

Bread, sugar .. are not the problem

Are you sure about that? What macronutrients do you get from sugar?

ninerbuff

Bread, sugar .. are not the problem

Are you sure about that? What macronutrients do you get from sugar?

Sugar is a carb........which happens to be a macronutrient.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

ajaxe432

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

Imagine that... people who are different than the OP... have a different experience. Shocking.

Haha....but are they are different? or were they all a caloric deficit. Not that shocking.

I do not want to look like the OP, nor do I find that look attractive. My diet does not follow all his points and it works well for me. I feel like crapola when i eat 200+ carbs, esp if those carbs are derived from bread and/or pasta or foods high in additives. Different strokes for different folks.

Agreeable. But for weight loss its simple science...

ajaxe432

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

I like the original post, but this comment isn't really needed...

It is when people are arguing something they are wrong about.

ajaxe432

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

I like the original post, but this comment isn't really needed...

Exactly. Isn't that the kind of attitude that makes people come here saying, "my ripped trainer told me I didn't need food so I'm starving myself to lose weight."

I believe the poster is trying to say that everyone arguing against the OP's advice, appears to be starting at the beginning and is not really sure what they are doing.

Now, was it said in the best way, probably not..but I get what the person is trying to say.

DatMurse

#4 You don't need to do 2 hours of cardio a day. Please incorporate free weight training as well. Once again you will not get big and bulky ladies.

Lets be serious.

I dont want to lose my feminine thighs though

ajaxe432

I look at the ops pic and the information he post....which I agree with. Then I look at the people who are arguing and their pics, and then their flawed argument.....then I laugh:) Love myfitnesspal.

The assumption being we should want to look as he does? Or relate to food as he does? Sorry, not me. I have no issue with the OP, other than it sounding a bit preachy and single minded. But why assume we share his goals? Perhaps you do, but many don't.

Different goals for different people, I agree. But when you argue something with someone who obviously knows what he isdoing...i find it very humerous. Its like a skinny guy going to the gym trying to show a body builder the correct form.

conniedj

Different goals for different people, I agree. But when you argue something with someone who obviously knows what he is doing...i find it very humerous. Its like a skinny guy going to the gym trying to show a body builder the correct form.

This^^ The OP is being fairly broad spectrum in answering a multitude of incorrect reasoning for following popular culture ( read: diet/exercise). AND when called on something he had incorrect ( absorption of liquid supplements)? He admitted to it. This is a person who is interested in an intelligent dialogue that is pretty rare on these forums.

Madmarsha

Bread, sugar .. are not the problem

Are you sure about that? What macronutrients do you get from sugar?

Sugar is a carb........which happens to be a macronutrient.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

So it's good for you then? Oh.

DatMurse

Bread, sugar .. are not the problem

Are you sure about that? What macronutrients do you get from sugar?

Sugar is a carb........which happens to be a macronutrient.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

So it's good for you then? Oh.

its not bad for you either, everything has its uses and function.
its really just there

Madmarsha

its not bad for you either, everything has its uses and function.
its really just there

Uh-huh.

p4ulmiller

bump (reading this at gym tonight)

:huh:

EricMurano

Whether people are genetically or otherwise predisposed to be thinner, bigger, stronger or weaker has no relevance to YOU and your journey.

In fact, scratch that, it does have relevance. If I am predisposed to be fat then I can to be extra vigilant of my eating and exercise habits. Being naturally fat doesn't excuse me from trying to stay at a normal weight; it should make me more keen to keep the weight off.

EricMurano

Bread, sugar .. are not the problem

Are you sure about that? What macronutrients do you get from sugar?

Sugar is a carb........which happens to be a macronutrient.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

So it's good for you then? Oh.

its not bad for you either, everything has its uses and function.
its really just there

I had a conversation years ago with a man who had just read 'Sweet Poison'. I kept referring to sugar as a carb and he kept saying that he's talking about sugar, not carbs. Maybe he was against high GI sugars ...pff who knows with these exclusion dieters.

zyxst

I thought OP was on point until #6, which I blew off because I know meal timing doesn't matter, then #8 popped up and I'm trying to understand how water boosts metabolism. and will make me feel fuller (it just makes me not thirsty and need to pee).

Now I'm just in for gifs.

gmallan

Bread, sugar .. are not the problem

Are you sure about that? What macronutrients do you get from sugar?

Sugar is a carb........which happens to be a macronutrient.

A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

So it's good for you then? Oh.

its not bad for you either, everything has its uses and function.
its really just there

I had a conversation years ago with a man who had just read 'Sweet Poison'. I kept referring to sugar as a carb and he kept saying that he's talking about sugar, not carbs. Maybe he was against high GI sugars ...pff who knows with these exclusion dieters.

From my observations there does seem to be quite a bit of confusion about this point.

PaleoPath4Lyfe

Interesting.

I think that this is SOOO frikking generalised ..

People who have pre-diabeties SHOULD cut out carbs and sugar... their body will function better

People who have water retention or heart issues SHOULD cut sodium because it will **** with their blood pressure.

I mean.. sure "dont stress about eating before bed".. but honestly , if i cut out eating earlier then I achieve better results. Additionally, it is common the later at night you eat the more likely it is to be something terrible for you.

Supps = expensive wee... eat nutricious food.

Im sure that your opinions are far more relevant in a performance environment... but honestly...theres a million ways to loose weight.. and whatever works for them to get rid of it and be a healthier person should be done. If someone cuts out fat completely, and looses 100lbs, then im sure their body is functioning better than if they hadnt cut out the fat and lost the weight...

I know right...............And we all know how people on the internet know the one size fits all for everyone approach.

<eyeroll>