Teacher's aide on leave after modeling photos surface

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  • calibriintx
    calibriintx Posts: 1,741 Member
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    Kinda hard to model without your head. But really, if she was in the exact same outfit, but a JCPenney catalog, I somehow doubt this would be an issue. Or if she was in the same outfit, but plus-sized. My bet, it's some jealous, overweight mom who was the anonymous tipster.

    She wasn't IN an outfit in several of the photos. Multiple shots were of her in string undies and topless and several were completely nude. I've never seen THAT in a Penney's catalog. :laugh:

    As a parent, it wouldn't bother me to find out that a TA does this kind of thing on the side. As a former HR professional, I don't have a lot of sympathy for her. Everything you share on social media reflects back on your employer, if a) you put your face on it, b) you put your name on it, and c) one of their internal or external customers happens upon it. Since she's an aide I doubt she has a contract but there's still an employee handbook or district standard. If there's any mention of professional behavior outside of work hours, she's SOL. Even if there's no mention of it, if enough parents are upset about it, she's SOL. Or the school or board, or whoever makes the call wants to stand up to parents and tell them to shove it, great. I'd kind of like to see that happen IF there's no policy in place for aides. If there is a policy, she should get the boot.

    Also, I can't help but wonder if this chick went out and got herself a TA job and leaked her own photos just for publicity.
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
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    I'd be fired for the same, and I'm not in public service. The whole argument that she was unfairly disciplined is juvenile.

    I never weighed in on the discipline because the school can do what it wants, but some people could argue that the whole hang up over nudity in general is juvenile. But I guess that is another debate.
  • Jonesingmucho
    Jonesingmucho Posts: 4,902 Member
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    ... but some people could argue that the whole hang up over nudity in general is juvenile. But I guess that is another debate.

    You said 'up over nudity'. x giggles like a 12 yr old girl x

    Ok...so I might be juvenile...
  • mister_universe
    mister_universe Posts: 6,664 Member
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    I'd be fired for the same, and I'm not in public service. The whole argument that she was unfairly disciplined is juvenile.

    I never weighed in on the discipline because the school can do what it wants, but some people could argue that the whole hang up over nudity in general is juvenile. But I guess that is another debate.

    I'm sure some people already have in this very thread. :wink:

    That really is another debate, but don't let that stop you. :laugh:
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
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    Really, this isn't all that hard to figure out once the ruse of "lingerie" photos is removed. Chick got full on nude for pay, many times over, and she's barely out of school herself. That's a problem.

    Why is that a problem? Does it some how impact her ability to aid her students? And I never saw any "full on nude" photos, though there may be some, I didn't look that hard. But even if she did, how does that impact her day job?
  • EddieHaskell97
    EddieHaskell97 Posts: 2,227 Member
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    These prudes are acting as if she's dealing crack to students out of the trunk of her car. I don't understand why a legal activity is under any scrutiny in the first place, but they really should get professional mental help. Salem is sixty miles to the west, and conducting a witch hunt over modelling pictures is psychotically stupid...
  • mister_universe
    mister_universe Posts: 6,664 Member
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    Really, this isn't all that hard to figure out once the ruse of "lingerie" photos is removed. Chick got full on nude for pay, many times over, and she's barely out of school herself. That's a problem.

    Why is that a problem? Does it some how impact her ability to aid her students? And I never saw any "full on nude" photos, though there may be some, I didn't look that hard. But even if she did, how does that impact her day job?

    She's indirectly teaching them that getting naked for money is just fine.

    Now, you may not have issues with that lesson, and I may not, but to pretend that most of society doesn't is simply dumb. The argument that this doesn't matter is full on stupid. Being aware of and able to respect others views goes both directions, not just the direction of always being increasingly tolerant of lowest rung behavior.

    It's great that she's capable of teaching them algebra or political science. But...

    Of course it affects her students. If they see those photos you can be damn sure they will look at her differently. You can pretend otherwise, but the example of getting 1) naked publicly and repeatedly 2) for money...when she's barely older than they are will register with them.

    I'm pretty sure that wasn't a lesson the school hired her to pass along.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    Salem is sixty miles to the west, and conducting a witch hunt over modelling pictures is psychotically stupid...
    If they burn her at the stake or crush her to death or drown her, I will get upset. In the meantime, it sounds like she violated the terms of a contract she willingly signed.
  • Jimaudit
    Jimaudit Posts: 275
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    3 quick points to clear the waters:

    1. SHE IS NOT A TEACHER, she is a teacher's aide. Read my prior post to understand the difference. Not sure why you folks keep calling her a teacher or an educator---she is neither of those.
    2. I checked with my wife and as far as she knows, they do not sign contracts (at least in CT and FL) so it is strictly employment at will. If the employer believes you have done something offensive, they can fire you.
    3. And to the OP who thinks she can't model? Damn u r are fine girl!
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    2 quick points to clear the waters:

    1. SHE IS NOT A TEACHER, she is a teacher's aide. Read my prior post to understand the difference. Not sure why you folks keep calling her a teacher or an educator---she is neither of those.
    2. I checked with my wife and as far as she knows, they do not sign contracts (at least in CT and FL) so it is strictly employment at will. If the employer believes you have done something offensive, they can fire you.
    I worked briefly as a teacher's aid. What is your defniition of "educator"?

    We understand the difference.
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
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    Salem is sixty miles to the west, and conducting a witch hunt over modelling pictures is psychotically stupid...
    If they burn her at the stake or crush her to death or drown her, I will get upset. In the meantime, it sounds like she violated the terms of a contract she willingly signed.

    News (and this is local news for me) said she was not in contract violation.
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    Salem is sixty miles to the west, and conducting a witch hunt over modelling pictures is psychotically stupid...
    If they burn her at the stake or crush her to death or drown her, I will get upset. In the meantime, it sounds like she violated the terms of a contract she willingly signed.

    News (and this is local news for me) said she was not in contract violation.
    So what are they basing the suspension on? Somewhere they have to have a policy that says she can't do that. Unless she's still on probation. At-will rarely applies to jobs with the government.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
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    Really, this isn't all that hard to figure out once the ruse of "lingerie" photos is removed. Chick got full on nude for pay, many times over, and she's barely out of school herself. That's a problem.

    Why is that a problem? Does it some how impact her ability to aid her students? And I never saw any "full on nude" photos, though there may be some, I didn't look that hard. But even if she did, how does that impact her day job?

    I read somewhere in the comments that she was a teacher's aide at an elementary. Of course it's not going to affect the way she deals with young children, but as a parent, I wouldn't want her teaching my children. The school probably fears that response from a lot of parents and decided to do what was best for the school's image.
  • summertime_girl
    summertime_girl Posts: 3,945 Member
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    Salem is sixty miles to the west, and conducting a witch hunt over modelling pictures is psychotically stupid...
    If they burn her at the stake or crush her to death or drown her, I will get upset. In the meantime, it sounds like she violated the terms of a contract she willingly signed.

    News (and this is local news for me) said she was not in contract violation.
    So what are they basing the suspension on? Somewhere they have to have a policy that says she can't do that. Unless she's still on probation. At-will rarely applies to jobs with the government.

    And that appears to be the problem. No contract issues, and she's still placed on admin leave while this is "investigated".
  • Loss4TheWin
    Loss4TheWin Posts: 249
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    This reminded me of a story I heard on the radio this week. Teacher got caught with a prostitute, still has his job *and* is fighting the city imposed fine. Lulz

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/education/teacher-sues-education-department-sex-punishment-article-1.1579105
  • rml_16
    rml_16 Posts: 16,414 Member
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    Salem is sixty miles to the west, and conducting a witch hunt over modelling pictures is psychotically stupid...
    If they burn her at the stake or crush her to death or drown her, I will get upset. In the meantime, it sounds like she violated the terms of a contract she willingly signed.

    News (and this is local news for me) said she was not in contract violation.
    So what are they basing the suspension on? Somewhere they have to have a policy that says she can't do that. Unless she's still on probation. At-will rarely applies to jobs with the government.

    And that appears to be the problem. No contract issues, and she's still placed on admin leave while this is "investigated".
    Well, it's paid leave. I wouldn't mind being on paid leave. :-)
  • BigDaddyRonnie
    BigDaddyRonnie Posts: 506 Member
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    It is quite ironic this is occurring in the very liberal state of MA.

    With that said, I totally agree with the school district. Once anyone decides to work with children, there is a standard that must be adhered to...yes it is that simple. It includes this action.

    The school district is correct in their actions.
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,611 Member
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    Really, this isn't all that hard to figure out once the ruse of "lingerie" photos is removed. Chick got full on nude for pay, many times over, and she's barely out of school herself. That's a problem.

    Why is that a problem? Does it some how impact her ability to aid her students? And I never saw any "full on nude" photos, though there may be some, I didn't look that hard. But even if she did, how does that impact her day job?

    I read somewhere in the comments that she was a teacher's aide at an elementary. Of course it's not going to affect the way she deals with young children, but as a parent, I wouldn't want her teaching my children. The school probably fears that response from a lot of parents and decided to do what was best for the school's image.

    If you freely admit that these photos will not affect the way she deals with young children, why do you not want her teaching your children?
  • Jimaudit
    Jimaudit Posts: 275
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    2 quick points to clear the waters:

    1. SHE IS NOT A TEACHER, she is a teacher's aide. Read my prior post to understand the difference. Not sure why you folks keep calling her a teacher or an educator---she is neither of those.
    2. I checked with my wife and as far as she knows, they do not sign contracts (at least in CT and FL) so it is strictly employment at will. If the employer believes you have done something offensive, they can fire you.
    I worked briefly as a teacher's aid. What is your defniition of "educator"?

    We understand the difference.

    My definition is a textbook one: An educator is "a specialist in the theory and practice of education" or "one trained in teaching". I would submit that a teachers aide is neither of those. I do not mean to belittle the job but calling a teachers aide an educator or a teacher is not fair to those that have put in the time to perfect their craft.

    Everyone needs a job, but I wouldn't call a janitor the CEO of a company because they work in the same building.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    I wouldn't care about her side work, nudity and sexuality doesn't bother me. However, as a professional working with children, I question her judgment in putting her full name on an Instagram that's public in that way. As others have said, most of us have to be careful with what we put online because of our work. (I also question the judgment of people who work with children and add them as friends on facebook or whatever site.)

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