To all the anti-low-carb folks, tell me this isn't healthy
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I thought Low carb diets were Fad till few months ago and changed my perception after reading the official recommendation of LCHF diet by Swedish health organization. LCHF diets are very helpful for people who have carb resistance and insulin problems. The bottom-line is you need to find whats best for your body and I do think Calorie in and calorie out theory is too simplified and not really effective.
Not a theory. Science. That's how every weight loss diet works. I'm not talking a few weeks of water loss, then a calorie deficit from cutting carbs, which is how a lot of diets that cut out carbs works.0 -
I could not live without carbs... Damn Mediterranean diet upbringing, it is contrary to all what is trendy these days
Yet is still is at or near the top of diet comparisons when it comes to health.0 -
The secret is to eat what you want in moderation and eat less calories than you burn.in…to see where this goes…
OP - no one ever said low carb is not healthy, at least I have not, the main critique is that is is not some magical fat loss secret, it is not sustainable, and it is idiotic to label food as "bad" or "evil"
I am glad that works for you …I would be starving and have about zero gym performance with that day...
Op, I am way smaller than you, lift weights, do cardio, and I eat around 2,000 to 2,100 calories per day.
No food is good or bad.0 -
I have no problem with the nutrition content of the food you posted, but ...
Delicious is in the eye of the beholder. Or in the tongue of the taster.
For me, that would be a gag-inducing meal plan, since I despise bell peppers, literally gag on cooked salmon, hate greek yogurt, and can't fathom why anyone would want to eat cardboard (I mean, cauliflower).
To be fair, it wouldn't require too much of a change-up for me to be happy with it. Substitute out mild to moderate chiles for the bell pepper, cottage cheese for the greek yogurt, raw salmon for cooked, broccoli or brussels sprouts for cauliflower.
Still. I like my carbs. I like to have some sweets and I won't willingly give up bread or starchy veg, since there's no logical reason to do so. Anyone else can do what they like, as long as they realize that low-carb is not the only way (and don't preach that it is).0 -
If you have found a diet that keeps you healthy and on track, why do you care what others think of it?
I care because it's unnecessary misery, and I wouldn't encourage anyone to do it. I did it for a few years because I am a stubborn gullible idiot. As far as I can see the only people who have stayed 'on track' have a vested interest in it or have a condition where they have no choice.
I have had friends in hospital with seizures on LC and seen what it can do to people's brain function.
Edit to say sorry...I don't know who your question is aimed at, but I'm in full rant mode today! :flowerforyou:0 -
Sounds very good to me Tom!! Must give it a try!
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I'm a borderline carboholic/ alcoholic (basically same thing). I buy a case of cookies i want to eat half the case of cookies. I want to get that sugar buzz and feel fully satiated. I buy a case of beer I want to drink the case. Get full on buzz going.
Moderation is hard for me. If you can have just two cookies with a glass of milk, good for you. If you can drink one beer, good for you. I can't. I love my paleo high fat lowish protein and lowish carbs cleaner diet. It makes me feel great. I don't really get food cravings and when I do I have a tablespoon of butter or coconut oil and it disappears. I have found what works for me.
To the OP what you posted looks healthy and tasty. But attacking people who may not agree with low carb isn't cool. Life is a struggle and balance for each individual. Each individual must come to terms with their personal responsibility when it comes to their health. For some moderation. For others with food sensitives, allergies, and disease alternative diet/ habits may be involved.
Know your body, know your mind.0 -
Nice menu. Good job!! I love how you sneak a little chocolate in there. Low carb is working great for me, and I feel so much better. No more brain fog or exhaustion at the end of my work day.0
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Not a theory. Science. That's how every weight loss diet works. I'm not talking a few weeks of water loss, then a calorie deficit from cutting carbs, which is how a lot of diets that cut out carbs works.
Very simplified science, it doesn't take in to account how your body reacts to different types of foods and how it impacts the fat metabolism. There are many variables which might impact calorie in and calorie out theory depending on your body. In broad sense, yes you can apply first law of thermodynamics and say calories are important but its very small part of the overall picture.
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/do-calories-matter
What works for others may not work for some one else despite eating same calories, the secret is figuring out what works.0 -
Interesting, I'd not heard of low carb causing seizures. The ketogenic diet was initially developed by doctors as a treatment for people with epilepsy, and people have very good luck with the reduction in seizures (although some people find it very hard to stick to). Definitely interesting to hear it has the opposite affect in people without epilepsy.If you have found a diet that keeps you healthy and on track, why do you care what others think of it?
I care because it's unnecessary misery, and I wouldn't encourage anyone to do it. I did it for a few years because I am a stubborn gullible idiot. As far as I can see the only people who have stayed 'on track' have a vested interest in it or have a condition where they have no choice.
I have had friends in hospital with seizures on LC and seen what it can do to people's brain function.
Edit to say sorry...I don't know who your question is aimed at, but I'm in full rant mode today! :flowerforyou:0 -
There are no cookies. Ergo it is not the diet plan for me.
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It is hard to read this over the bowl of cereal I am eating...
But it looks like a good day. Is there a particular *reason* you want to be low carb??? Do you not like bread? Maybe you haven't had the right kind. I know a lot go good bakeries
:flowerforyou:
mmmmm bakery...
creme de la creme...
chocolate napoleon...
yummy!!!
cafe dumond in new orleans…boom awesome beignets!!!!!!
You had to mention those didn't you!!! I miss having those. Who is in for a trip to New Orleans??
Count me in.0 -
I don't approve of paleo, but just wanted to add that it isn't necessarily low carb, it's just easier to sell a plan with a good story to tell.I was under the impression that carbohydrates are brain fuel. I could be wrong, though.
Glucose is brain fuel.
The body can generate glucose from protein via gluconeogenesis in the absence of adequate carbohydrates. All vital functions, including the brain, that require glucose will receive it on even the lowest carb programs, or in the total absence of food. The rest of your functions, the majority, are fueled by ketones.
Whilst it's true, your body can do this, it's an intense process for it to do. This is generally why I'm "against" paleo-type diets... supply doesn't keep up with demand, and therefore your glycogen stores (particularly in the muscles) are always seriously depleted.
It doesn't matter if all you're doing is walking.0 -
It is hard to read this over the bowl of cereal I am eating...
But it looks like a good day. Is there a particular *reason* you want to be low carb??? Do you not like bread? Maybe you haven't had the right kind. I know a lot go good bakeries
:flowerforyou:
mmmmm bakery...
creme de la creme...
chocolate napoleon...
yummy!!!
cafe dumond in new orleans…boom awesome beignets!!!!!!
And now I'm craving Cafe Dumond beignets..
Good thing they sell their mix! 0 -
Not a theory. Science. That's how every weight loss diet works. I'm not talking a few weeks of water loss, then a calorie deficit from cutting carbs, which is how a lot of diets that cut out carbs works.
Very simplified science, it doesn't take in to account how your body reacts to different types of foods and how it impacts the fat metabolism. There are many variables which might impact calorie in and calorie out theory depending on your body. In broad sense, yes you can apply first law of thermodynamics and say calories are important but its very small part of the overall picture.
http://eatingacademy.com/nutrition/do-calories-matter
What works for others may not work for some one else despite eating same calories, the secret is figuring out what works.
Lol Attia0 -
Lol Attia
Very insightful. LOL.0 -
OP, this is a classic straw man argument. Why am I even replying to this nonsense?0
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It is hard to read this over the bowl of cereal I am eating...
But it looks like a good day. Is there a particular *reason* you want to be low carb??? Do you not like bread? Maybe you haven't had the right kind. I know a lot go good bakeries
:flowerforyou:
mmmmm bakery...
creme de la creme...
chocolate napoleon...
yummy!!!
cafe dumond in new orleans…boom awesome beignets!!!!!!
And now I'm craving Cafe Dumond beignets..
Good thing they sell their mix!
Yeah, but then you miss the ambiance and the awesome grubbiness of the Quarter.0 -
OP, this is a classic straw man argument. Why am I even replying to this nonsense?
Good question. Why ARE you?0 -
It looks good, but I love my carbs. Sorry.0
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It is hard to read this over the bowl of cereal I am eating...
But it looks like a good day. Is there a particular *reason* you want to be low carb??? Do you not like bread? Maybe you haven't had the right kind. I know a lot go good bakeries
:flowerforyou:
mmmmm bakery...
creme de la creme...
chocolate napoleon...
yummy!!!
cafe dumond in new orleans…boom awesome beignets!!!!!!
And now I'm craving Cafe Dumond beignets..
Good thing they sell their mix!
Yeah, but then you miss the ambiance and the awesome grubbiness of the Quarter.
And its not the same. I bought the mix the last time I was there, and it was good, but its more delicious there.
And the coffee!!0 -
This Little Debbie's oatmeal pie is soooo good right now.
oops were we talking low carb? I dont know what that is0 -
Anti-low carb?
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Not only healthy but delicious, filling, and an effective way to lose weight.
Breakfast - 3 egg omelet with spinach and green peppers
Morning snack - 23 almonds (1 oz)
Lunch - 6 oz roast salmon, large romain and tomato salad with 3 tbsp caesars dressing
Afternoon snack - 2 slices salami and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Dinner - 2 roasted chicken thighs with skin, 1 cup roasted cauliflower and 1 cup roasted broccoli with olive oil and parmesan
Desert - 1/2 cup of full-fat greek yogurt with 2 squares of 90% cocoa dark chocolate
Calories - 2000 Net carbs 28g, Protein 111g, Fat 154g
If you are smaller than I am (200 lbs) and need less calories, make it a 2-egg omelet, 4oz salmon, 1 chicken thigh, a little less veg/salad dressing and you can easily get under 1500. To get to around 1300 cut out a snack or desert
Your "desert" is not an actual dessert. I would switch that for the afternoon snack, then have a real dessert.0 -
Not only healthy but delicious, filling, and an effective way to lose weight.
Breakfast - 3 egg omelet with spinach and green peppers
Morning snack - 23 almonds (1 oz)
Lunch - 6 oz roast salmon, large romain and tomato salad with 3 tbsp caesars dressing
Afternoon snack - 2 slices salami and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Dinner - 2 roasted chicken thighs with skin, 1 cup roasted cauliflower and 1 cup roasted broccoli with olive oil and parmesan
Desert - 1/2 cup of full-fat greek yogurt with 2 squares of 90% cocoa dark chocolate
Calories - 2000 Net carbs 28g, Protein 111g, Fat 154g
If you are smaller than I am (200 lbs) and need less calories, make it a 2-egg omelet, 4oz salmon, 1 chicken thigh, a little less veg/salad dressing and you can easily get under 1500. To get to around 1300 cut out a snack or desert
Your "desert" is not an actual dessert. I would switch that for the afternoon snack, then have a real dessert.
I knew I liked you. :flowerforyou:0 -
Not only healthy but delicious, filling, and an effective way to lose weight.
Breakfast - 3 egg omelet with spinach and green peppers
Morning snack - 23 almonds (1 oz)
Lunch - 6 oz roast salmon, large romain and tomato salad with 3 tbsp caesars dressing
Afternoon snack - 2 slices salami and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Dinner - 2 roasted chicken thighs with skin, 1 cup roasted cauliflower and 1 cup roasted broccoli with olive oil and parmesan
Desert - 1/2 cup of full-fat greek yogurt with 2 squares of 90% cocoa dark chocolate
Calories - 2000 Net carbs 28g, Protein 111g, Fat 154g
If you are smaller than I am (200 lbs) and need less calories, make it a 2-egg omelet, 4oz salmon, 1 chicken thigh, a little less veg/salad dressing and you can easily get under 1500. To get to around 1300 cut out a snack or desert
Your "desert" is not an actual dessert. I would switch that for the afternoon snack, then have a real dessert.
Actual desserts have sugar, which isn't really allowed on this plan.0 -
ya this is great and everything but I'm not about to get stressed out because I have to avoid certain foods. Great for those who can do it, but it's just not sustainable for me and there are too many foods I would be missing out on.0
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However, the vast majority of the 70million obese Americans are insulin resistant.
This sounds like propaganda from the paleo folks.0 -
I think you should probably just eat however you please, let everyone else eat however they please, and avoid claiming that there is only one way of 'doing it right'.
You'll probably find that the arguments vanish miraculously. No one gives a turd how you personally eat, we just get upset when it's claimed that certain nutrients and/or foods must be excluded for good health.0 -
Not only healthy but delicious, filling, and an effective way to lose weight.
Breakfast - 3 egg omelet with spinach and green peppers
Morning snack - 23 almonds (1 oz)
Lunch - 6 oz roast salmon, large romain and tomato salad with 3 tbsp caesars dressing
Afternoon snack - 2 slices salami and 1 oz cheddar cheese
Dinner - 2 roasted chicken thighs with skin, 1 cup roasted cauliflower and 1 cup roasted broccoli with olive oil and parmesan
Desert - 1/2 cup of full-fat greek yogurt with 2 squares of 90% cocoa dark chocolate
Calories - 2000 Net carbs 28g, Protein 111g, Fat 154g
If you are smaller than I am (200 lbs) and need less calories, make it a 2-egg omelet, 4oz salmon, 1 chicken thigh, a little less veg/salad dressing and you can easily get under 1500. To get to around 1300 cut out a snack or desert
meh
Looks pleasant enough, bit too much meat for my taste and it'd get pretty boring. If it works for you then that's fine.
Think I'll stick with eating what works for me...0
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