Junk Food and losing weight?
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I eat junk food daily lol. It's all about moderation. Had 2 donuts for dessert yesterday, checked the scale and still had a nice loss0
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I eat junk food daily lol. It's all about moderation. Had 2 donuts for dessert yesterday, checked the scale and still had a nice loss
I had a deep fried, hot fudge donut sundae last night-it doesn't get better than that :bigsmile:0 -
If the focus is on weight loss no it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you are in a reasonable deficet.
I eat what is considered by some "junk" food and I look great, feel great, I am progressing in my lifts really well as do all of us here who feel food is food and it is niether good nor bad and I have drop 8% bf in 7 months...along with 43lbs.
what you eat has no influence on where the fat goes that is genetics.
As to the car analogy if you are driving a car it doesn't matter if you put regular gas or premium on if that car gets you to point A and back...gas is gas. If however you are driving in a race you want to do more than just put gas in the car you want the oil changed, alignment checked etc...it's the same with the body if you want to lose fat and maintain muscle you get enough protien and fat watch your marcros...
but...this was about losing weight...that's it.
Great that you've lost all that weight.
But still, it's common sence; good food is better for your body than junk food. Period.
If you compare two persons with identically body types, both are eating with the same calorie deficit - one with quality food and one with junk food - and are doing exactly the same exercise; you will see a different in body composition.
Yes - both will loose weight.
No - they won't loose the same amount of weight. Probably will the person that is eating the quality food not loose as many pounds as the one with junk food. How come? Because the one with quality food will get more and better nutritents for the muscles, which will be in a more anabolic state, so that person will save more muscles, or in the best of worlds, add some. And muscles eat fat.
NO - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will NOT have the same lean body composition as the one with quality food.
No - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will probably not loose as much body fat as the person with the quality food diet.
Loosing weight are not the same as loosing fat. That's important to understand. That's why waist measure and Body Fat percentage are way better measurement than looking at the scale.
I've seen a lot of examples of people who has lost weight on a poor diet with junk food. They have been skinny with fat, and lost a lot of muscles.
However, adding junk food as cheat meals now and then, to reward yourself, is good.
Basing a diet on junk food to loose weight, is not that good, even if you loose weight.
That's a hughe difference.
Regarding the Porsche. If you have Porsche with a gasoline engine, you won't fuel it with diesel. You would like to fuel the expensive car with the best gasoline. You would treat your car like your precious. Exactly as you should treat your body.
You don't get "extra credit" for extra nutrients.
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.0 -
If the focus is on weight loss no it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you are in a reasonable deficet.
I eat what is considered by some "junk" food and I look great, feel great, I am progressing in my lifts really well as do all of us here who feel food is food and it is niether good nor bad and I have drop 8% bf in 7 months...along with 43lbs.
what you eat has no influence on where the fat goes that is genetics.
As to the car analogy if you are driving a car it doesn't matter if you put regular gas or premium on if that car gets you to point A and back...gas is gas. If however you are driving in a race you want to do more than just put gas in the car you want the oil changed, alignment checked etc...it's the same with the body if you want to lose fat and maintain muscle you get enough protien and fat watch your marcros...
but...this was about losing weight...that's it.
Great that you've lost all that weight.
But still, it's common sence; good food is better for your body than junk food. Period.
If you compare two persons with identically body types, both are eating with the same calorie deficit - one with quality food and one with junk food - and are doing exactly the same exercise; you will see a different in body composition.
Yes - both will loose weight.
No - they won't loose the same amount of weight. Probably will the person that is eating the quality food not loose as many pounds as the one with junk food. How come? Because the one with quality food will get more and better nutritents for the muscles, which will be in a more anabolic state, so that person will save more muscles, or in the best of worlds, add some. And muscles eat fat.
NO - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will NOT have the same lean body composition as the one with quality food.
No - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will probably not loose as much body fat as the person with the quality food diet.
Loosing weight are not the same as loosing fat. That's important to understand. That's why waist measure and Body Fat percentage are way better measurement than looking at the scale.
I've seen a lot of examples of people who has lost weight on a poor diet with junk food. They have been skinny with fat, and lost a lot of muscles.
However, adding junk food as cheat meals now and then, to reward yourself, is good.
Basing a diet on junk food to loose weight, is not that good, even if you loose weight.
That's a hughe difference.
Regarding the Porsche. If you have Porsche with a gasoline engine, you won't fuel it with diesel. You would like to fuel the expensive car with the best gasoline. You would treat your car like your precious. Exactly as you should treat your body.
You don't get "extra credit" for extra nutrients.
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.
Yeah, I noticed that too
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If the focus is on weight loss no it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you are in a reasonable deficet.
I eat what is considered by some "junk" food and I look great, feel great, I am progressing in my lifts really well as do all of us here who feel food is food and it is niether good nor bad and I have drop 8% bf in 7 months...along with 43lbs.
what you eat has no influence on where the fat goes that is genetics.
As to the car analogy if you are driving a car it doesn't matter if you put regular gas or premium on if that car gets you to point A and back...gas is gas. If however you are driving in a race you want to do more than just put gas in the car you want the oil changed, alignment checked etc...it's the same with the body if you want to lose fat and maintain muscle you get enough protien and fat watch your marcros...
but...this was about losing weight...that's it.
Great that you've lost all that weight.
But still, it's common sence; good food is better for your body than junk food. Period.
If you compare two persons with identically body types, both are eating with the same calorie deficit - one with quality food and one with junk food - and are doing exactly the same exercise; you will see a different in body composition.
Yes - both will loose weight.
No - they won't loose the same amount of weight. Probably will the person that is eating the quality food not loose as many pounds as the one with junk food. How come? Because the one with quality food will get more and better nutritents for the muscles, which will be in a more anabolic state, so that person will save more muscles, or in the best of worlds, add some. And muscles eat fat.
NO - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will NOT have the same lean body composition as the one with quality food.
No - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will probably not loose as much body fat as the person with the quality food diet.
Loosing weight are not the same as loosing fat. That's important to understand. That's why waist measure and Body Fat percentage are way better measurement than looking at the scale.
I've seen a lot of examples of people who has lost weight on a poor diet with junk food. They have been skinny with fat, and lost a lot of muscles.
However, adding junk food as cheat meals now and then, to reward yourself, is good.
Basing a diet on junk food to loose weight, is not that good, even if you loose weight.
That's a hughe difference.
Regarding the Porsche. If you have Porsche with a gasoline engine, you won't fuel it with diesel. You would like to fuel the expensive car with the best gasoline. You would treat your car like your precious. Exactly as you should treat your body.
You don't get "extra credit" for extra nutrients.
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.
Yeah, I noticed that too
That's because we both eat junk food regularly. It makes you wiser. :laugh:0 -
I think it's great that you've lost weight, maintaining the weight and still can eat junk food! No argue about that, that's a fantastic job done!
Balance is everything. I don't talk about cutting the junk food out.
However, depending on your goal about the look of your body and the way to achieving it, you will get better and faster results with a clean diet. Yes, it may be a tougher - and more boring - diet. But do you have high expectations and goals, this is the way.
The people I've helped has transformed their bodies from fat to sexy, lean and ripped bodies. With diets based on clean quality food where junk food where their rewards.
If you want to look great it's not all about calories. It's about how you split the macronutrients, it's about timing of nutrition, it's about sitting in the drivers seat and always find the way to enhance the metabolism. It's about preventing muscle loss and to speed up the fat burning. It's about the finding new ways to shock the body and not let the body adapt.
You can have an OK body and be satisfied with that. You can have a great body and be satisfied with that.
You can choose different ways to loose weight. It's not black or white. It's just better or worse ways of doing it.
I push for the clean and quality way.
I am glad to see that you push for another way. That makes more possibilities for the forum members to choose a path for their road to weight loss.0 -
I do not limit or eliminate any foods from my diet, nor do I eat "junk" food all day long. You can create a healthy balance
That's wise!
It's all about balance.
I believe in junk foods as rewards and treats, but not as a basement for the diet or eating it all day long.
Um, yeah, that's what everyone else here is saying as well. The OP asked if people eat a bit of junk food, and people listed the types of junk food they eat. They didn't say they eat it all day long or even every day. And everyone finds a way to fit those foods into their daily calorie allowance for weight loss. People around here do not "reward" themselves with certain types of food, because food is viewed as fuel and nothing else. And using food as a "reward" or as a coping mechanism for achievements/failures in their lives is also how many people on this site came to be overweight in the first place.
The psychological aspect of weight loss is just as important as the physical, which is why you see people here saying they do not label foods as "good" or "bad," do not eliminate or limit foods from their diets, or "treat" themselves with food when they do well on their diets and go over their calorie limits. It mentally sets you up for failure, because you focus on thing you can't have. We see it here all the time - people make their diets "clean" then end up binging on all the "bad" foods, and it either sets them back or they quit completely because they feel as though they've failed.0 -
I think one of the most important things is to set up sub targets. When reaching them - reward yourself!
Junk food could be great a reward. And after following a strict and clean diet for a while, it can enhance your metabolism. Your metabolism will slow down, when eating clean and loosing weight. As long as you don't reward yourself too often.
But I can't agree that as long as you are staying within your daily calories, it's ok to eat junk food.
You are what you eat. This is the truth.
Junk food is mostly a mix of sugar and fat, and that's a bad combo. It's also mostly bad fats. Eating junk food often, even if you are staying in a calorie deficit, can result in that you are keeping fat in stead.
To burn fat and save muscles, it's much about nutrition timing. For example; if you are eating your carbs around your workouts, you will use them for muscle glycogen and to compensate for energy loss, which is better than eating them on other occasions. So that's an opportunity to eat junk that's based on carbs and sugars (make sure it's not fat in it).
But as I wrote before. You are what you eat. You can't cheat mother nature on that.
Great advice, totally agree!0 -
On a broad, purely scientific overview, yes, calories are calories, and if you eat less than you burn, you will lose weight. (Unless there's thyroid or some other issue going on, which totally skews the bodies inclination to store fuel).
However, health, and wellness, are NOT "a weight"
Everything from the diet industry to hollywood to the Government push this "healthy weight" BS on us, daily.
There are people who are "overweight" by every standard who are completely healthy.
There are people who are "ideal weight" by every standard who are not at all healthy.
So, yeah.. you CAN lose weight eating nothing but junk food. However, you are probably going to feel like crap, have greasy skin and lifeless hair, beat the hell out of your system in the process, and not feel like continuing after a relatively short while.
One of the reasons elimination and so called "clean eating" diets are gaining so much popularity, is people not only lose weight, but FEEL BETTER when on them. And you can curl your lip at em all you want, but if people feel better, they are more likely to continue doing whatever it is that makes them feel better, which is, long term, going to lead to better results.
Each person is an individual, therefore, what works for them may well be different than what works for you. Taking two people "of identical body type" as stated earlier, is a fairly meaningless test, as all manner of things may be different internally between the two. MAYBE if you did it with twins. (And someone did.. they did one twin on an atkins type, and one twin on a low fat type, and tracked it, for a whole month, and came up with some "science" recently), you'd have a baseline. But even one set of twins is anecdotal, and not data.
Is a big mac now and then gonna kill you? No. Have fun and account for it. Is "the lemonade diet" going to do damage long term? Yup.0 -
Back this up with science.I think it's great that you've lost weight, maintaining the weight and still can eat junk food! No argue about that, that's a fantastic job done!
Balance is everything. I don't talk about cutting the junk food out.
However, depending on your goal about the look of your body and the way to achieving it, you will get better and faster results with a clean diet. Yes, it may be a tougher - and more boring - diet. But do you have high expectations and goals, this is the way.
The people I've helped has transformed their bodies from fat to sexy, lean and ripped bodies. With diets based on clean quality food where junk food where their rewards.
If you want to look great it's not all about calories. It's about how you split the macronutrients, it's about timing of nutrition, it's about sitting in the drivers seat and always find the way to enhance the metabolism. It's about preventing muscle loss and to speed up the fat burning. It's about the finding new ways to shock the body and not let the body adapt.
You can have an OK body and be satisfied with that.
Stop right now.
GREAT bodies all over this site who don't "eat clean."
You can have a great body and be satisfied with that.
You can choose different ways to loose weight. It's not black or white. It's just better or worse ways of doing it.
I push for the clean and quality way.
I am glad to see that you push for another way. That makes more possibilities for the forum members to choose a path for their road to weight loss.
Trolls be trollin'0 -
If the focus is on weight loss no it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you are in a reasonable deficet.
I eat what is considered by some "junk" food and I look great, feel great, I am progressing in my lifts really well as do all of us here who feel food is food and it is niether good nor bad and I have drop 8% bf in 7 months...along with 43lbs.
what you eat has no influence on where the fat goes that is genetics.
As to the car analogy if you are driving a car it doesn't matter if you put regular gas or premium on if that car gets you to point A and back...gas is gas. If however you are driving in a race you want to do more than just put gas in the car you want the oil changed, alignment checked etc...it's the same with the body if you want to lose fat and maintain muscle you get enough protien and fat watch your marcros...
but...this was about losing weight...that's it.
Great that you've lost all that weight.
But still, it's common sence; good food is better for your body than junk food. Period.
If you compare two persons with identically body types, both are eating with the same calorie deficit - one with quality food and one with junk food - and are doing exactly the same exercise; you will see a different in body composition.
Yes - both will loose weight.
No - they won't loose the same amount of weight. Probably will the person that is eating the quality food not loose as many pounds as the one with junk food. How come? Because the one with quality food will get more and better nutritents for the muscles, which will be in a more anabolic state, so that person will save more muscles, or in the best of worlds, add some. And muscles eat fat.
NO - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will NOT have the same lean body composition as the one with quality food.
No - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will probably not loose as much body fat as the person with the quality food diet.
Loosing weight are not the same as loosing fat. That's important to understand. That's why waist measure and Body Fat percentage are way better measurement than looking at the scale.
I've seen a lot of examples of people who has lost weight on a poor diet with junk food. They have been skinny with fat, and lost a lot of muscles.
However, adding junk food as cheat meals now and then, to reward yourself, is good.
Basing a diet on junk food to loose weight, is not that good, even if you loose weight.
That's a hughe difference.
Regarding the Porsche. If you have Porsche with a gasoline engine, you won't fuel it with diesel. You would like to fuel the expensive car with the best gasoline. You would treat your car like your precious. Exactly as you should treat your body.
You don't get "extra credit" for extra nutrients.
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.
Yeah, I noticed that too
That's because we both eat junk food regularly. It makes you wiser. :laugh:
:laugh:
Eta: Yeah, not worth arguing with a troll :yawn: 95% of people who lose weight will fail at long term success. I'm doing this whole thing in a way that's sustainable for the rest of my life, and will make me part of the 5% that actually succeeds. I may not look like a VS model, but I do look pretty good for a 35 yr old mom of three kids
And most importantly-I'm in the best health of my life and my doctor is very happy with my transformation. Good enough for me! 0 -
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.
I guess it's up to you do find out if I'm a troll or not. You're welcomed to see the other posts I've made here, it's not trolling, it's helping.
And why did I promote myself? Because I love to help. This is my passion!
I love to read about nutritional science, weight loss, fat burning, fitness etc. I love to educate my self. And I love to help others and to share the knowledge I've got.
I don't know if you got offended because I don't believe in eating junk food too much? If so, I'm sorry, that was not my intention.
But I hope you can have different opinions, experiences and knowledge here at Myfitnesspal. That's what's make a forum like this to develop, which will benefit all members.0 -
So, yeah.. you CAN lose weight eating nothing but junk food. However, you are probably going to feel like crap, have greasy skin and lifeless hair, beat the hell out of your system in the process, and not feel like continuing after a relatively short while.
Can we make an MFP rule to formerly ban this strawman argument?
I have never ever seen anyone suggest you should eat nothing but junk food. Even the homie Johnnythan doesn't say that. I don't get why people always go right to that argument when discussing clean eating.0 -
Yes, I eat junk food, drink the occasional beer and lose weight. I log it and keep it within my calorie range. I can't deprive myself, that only makes me want it more. It's all about moderation.0
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So, yeah.. you CAN lose weight eating nothing but junk food. However, you are probably going to feel like crap, have greasy skin and lifeless hair, beat the hell out of your system in the process, and not feel like continuing after a relatively short while.
Can we make an MFP rule to formerly ban this strawman argument?
I have never ever seen anyone suggest you should eat nothing but junk food. Even the homie Johnnythan doesn't say that. I don't get why people always go right to that argument when discussing clean eating.
Amen. Slow clap gif0 -
Hi guys,
Just wondering who eats a bit of junk food and still losing weight? What do you class as 'junk' food? x x x
I don't classify any food as junk, except cauliflower.0 -
I love junk food. I am a lifelong fan of Snicker bars. I have replaced them with Fiber One and Atkins bars. They have chocolate and are between 140-170c. For chips I usually try and stick to the baked types, cuts the calories by ~100. I had to say goodbye to Oreos and Chocolate Chip cookies though. No tasty alternative for those!0
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It's true that if you maintain your net deficit you will lose weight.
However, more junk food and less healthy food may mean:
- you lose more muscle and retain more fat than the same calories with a higher proportion of protein and lower proportion of carb / fat.
- you find it harder to eat 3 satisfying meals a day if one takes up more than half your daily calories (and so feel hungrier through the day as a result).
My guess would be that a junk food meal once or twice a week is ok and small junky snacks maybe ok once a day but more than that the above effects may be a problem.0 -
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.
I guess it's up to you do find out if I'm a troll or not. You're welcomed to see the other posts I've made here, it's not trolling, it's helping.
And why did I promote myself? Because I love to help. This is my passion!
I love to read about nutritional science, weight loss, fat burning, fitness etc. I love to educate my self. And I love to help others and to share the knowledge I've got.
I don't know if you got offended because I don't believe in eating junk food too much? If so, I'm sorry, that was not my intention.
But I hope you can have different opinions, experiences and knowledge here at Myfitnesspal. That's what's make a forum like this to develop, which will benefit all members.
Okay, looked at your posts:Regarding detox it can be a good weapon to use now and then, if you do it right (basing the diet on ecological vegetables, wild caught fish, alcalized water, ecologica green tea etc). The one´s with just shakes, skip it.
A straight detox for 5-7 days can clear your body from waste products and getting your protein synthesis and insulin sensitivity on the right track. This will make your body answer even better on your following diet.
Are you acquainted with how the body functions?
If so, you'd realize that "detox" isn't necessary.
You aren't helping.0 -
So, yeah.. you CAN lose weight eating nothing but junk food. However, you are probably going to feel like crap, have greasy skin and lifeless hair, beat the hell out of your system in the process, and not feel like continuing after a relatively short while.
Can we make an MFP rule to formerly ban this strawman argument?
I have never ever seen anyone suggest you should eat nothing but junk food. Even the homie Johnnythan doesn't say that. I don't get why people always go right to that argument when discussing clean eating.
Amen. Slow clap gif
Amen and yes I googled "Carl" some sort of Swedish "growth analyst"...troll...0 -
Newbies and their broscience....gotta love MFP!
nutrient timing
GI index
clean diet
slow metabolism
sugar and fat = bad
Oh wow! Happy Monday, MFP!
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So, yeah.. you CAN lose weight eating nothing but junk food. However, you are probably going to feel like crap, have greasy skin and lifeless hair, beat the hell out of your system in the process, and not feel like continuing after a relatively short while.
Can we make an MFP rule to formerly ban this strawman argument?
I have never ever seen anyone suggest you should eat nothing but junk food. Even the homie Johnnythan doesn't say that. I don't get why people always go right to that argument when discussing clean eating.
It's not a strawman. It's an example of one extreme. The other would be eating nothing but organic vegetables washed in fresh dew. (which would have it's own set of long term health issues).
If you keep reading, you'll find what I'm saying is FIND YOUR OWN BALANCE.
Too many people push one extreme or the other, without seeing any middle ground.0 -
Newbies and their broscience....gotta love MFP!
nutrient timing
GI index
clean diet
slow metabolism
sugar and fat = bad
Oh wow! Happy Monday, MFP!
Are you saying Glycemic Index does't exist?
Or that slow metabolisms don't exist?
I'm honestly curious.0 -
If the focus is on weight loss no it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you are in a reasonable deficet.
I eat what is considered by some "junk" food and I look great, feel great, I am progressing in my lifts really well as do all of us here who feel food is food and it is niether good nor bad and I have drop 8% bf in 7 months...along with 43lbs.
what you eat has no influence on where the fat goes that is genetics.
As to the car analogy if you are driving a car it doesn't matter if you put regular gas or premium on if that car gets you to point A and back...gas is gas. If however you are driving in a race you want to do more than just put gas in the car you want the oil changed, alignment checked etc...it's the same with the body if you want to lose fat and maintain muscle you get enough protien and fat watch your marcros...
but...this was about losing weight...that's it.
Great that you've lost all that weight.
But still, it's common sence; good food is better for your body than junk food. Period.
If you compare two persons with identically body types, both are eating with the same calorie deficit - one with quality food and one with junk food - and are doing exactly the same exercise; you will see a different in body composition.
Yes - both will loose weight.
No - they won't loose the same amount of weight. Probably will the person that is eating the quality food not loose as many pounds as the one with junk food. How come? Because the one with quality food will get more and better nutritents for the muscles, which will be in a more anabolic state, so that person will save more muscles, or in the best of worlds, add some. And muscles eat fat.
NO - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will NOT have the same lean body composition as the one with quality food.
No - the person loosing weight on a diet based on junk food will probably not loose as much body fat as the person with the quality food diet.
Loosing weight are not the same as loosing fat. That's important to understand. That's why waist measure and Body Fat percentage are way better measurement than looking at the scale.
I've seen a lot of examples of people who has lost weight on a poor diet with junk food. They have been skinny with fat, and lost a lot of muscles.
However, adding junk food as cheat meals now and then, to reward yourself, is good.
Basing a diet on junk food to loose weight, is not that good, even if you loose weight.
That's a hughe difference.
Regarding the Porsche. If you have Porsche with a gasoline engine, you won't fuel it with diesel. You would like to fuel the expensive car with the best gasoline. You would treat your car like your precious. Exactly as you should treat your body.
You don't get "extra credit" for extra nutrients.
But I suspect you are probably a troll anyway.
Looked at your profile: Just joined up to "help people 'loose' weight" by promoting yourself.
No listed credentials, no diary entries (or they're private, anyway)
I smell shenanigans.
Yeah, I noticed that too
That's because we both eat junk food regularly. It makes you wiser. :laugh:
:laugh:
Eta: Yeah, not worth arguing with a troll :yawn: 95% of people who lose weight will fail at long term success. I'm doing this whole thing in a way that's sustainable for the rest of my life, and will make me part of the 5% that actually succeeds. I may not look like a VS model, but I do look pretty good for a 35 yr old mom of three kids And most importantly-I'm in the best health of my life and my doctor is very happy with my transformation. Good enough for me!
True, it's not worth arguing, except that he's giving bad advice, AND the fact that he hinted at body shaming you (and others) just p!ssed me off.
You look FANTASTIC!0 -
Stretch it out:
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Newbies and their broscience....gotta love MFP!
nutrient timing
GI index
clean diet
slow metabolism
sugar and fat = bad
Oh wow! Happy Monday, MFP!
Don't forget the veiled body shaming! Oh MFP... Don't ever change! Lol0 -
Newbies and their broscience....gotta love MFP!
nutrient timing
GI index
clean diet
slow metabolism
sugar and fat = bad
Oh wow! Happy Monday, MFP!
Are you saying Glycemic Index does't exist?
Or that slow metabolisms don't exist?
I'm honestly curious.
GI doesn't matter for weight loss..it is calories in vs calories out...
Slow metabolisms exist but are not common and normally it's about eating more than you think0 -
Newbies and their broscience....gotta love MFP!
nutrient timing
GI index
clean diet
slow metabolism
sugar and fat = bad
Oh wow! Happy Monday, MFP!
Don't forget the veiled body shaming! Oh MFP... Don't ever change! Lol
Yes the "veiled" body shaming was the best...0 -
I don't think of food in the context of good or bad. I focus primarily on nutrient density to meet my macronutrients, then I eat whatever I want within my calorie limits. That way, you have freedom and there's no cutting out foods. I could cut things but why? I'm perfectly healthy. That's the important thing
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It's not a strawman. It's an example of one extreme. The other would be eating nothing but organic vegetables washed in fresh dew. (which would have it's own set of long term health issues).
Yes an extreme that no one here has ever promoted or tried to support. So, if it isn't a strawman it is an appeal to an extreme. Fallacy still exists.
As to your other point about the GI - it is flawed by it's very nature. http://alanaragon.com/glycemic-index0
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