"Beyond Diet"...have you tried it? Looking for opinions

Here here to all you said Casablanca. I too will freely share my experiences. And that intro video. Halfway through it I found myself thinking will you just get to the point please. There's a lot of that there unfortunately. And cutting out sugar had the biggest impact on my weight. Obviously I had been consuming a lot more than I realised.

If you are starving on your current diet, I highly recommend Beyond Diet. I just started 3 weeks ago, have lost 10 pounds, and am eating more calories than I normally did. There is a HUGE difference in my calorie sources, though! It's basically eating real foods. If you're like me, though, you need someone who has spent time doing the research to provide meal plans. I just plain don't have time! And Beyond Diet has given me that! I highly recommend it!

I just recently joined. I started with the Detox for 9 days and it wasn't as bad as i thought. There's so much information out there and i found that being a member of Beyond Diet ~ i can research further what they tell me and decide for myself whether to believe and follow the advise. I like that it opened my eyes to GMO and bad food we have around. i've lost weight but i dont feel hungry. If anything, it changed my palette and took away 85% of the foods i craved. after the detox program, i thought i still wanted the chips and cookies and all the other foods i endulged myself with during the holidays to find that i could actually taste the chemicals on those food. My body is totally preferring food ~ real food, not processed food. it worked for me and maybe something to think about ~ this is really more of a mindset and wanting to be healthy and not just to lose the weight for a little bit. Beyond Diet is just that ~ it's life changing and deciding to eat clean and they provide you support and information on how to do that:happy: :happy:

I have had great success with a similar diet plan in the book called "The Plan" by Lyn-Genet Recitas. It has changed my life. Once you start eating whole foods, preferably organic, you do lose the cravings for foods you never thought you could give up. It is not even hard. I just look at pizza now and think, "if I eat that, I am going to feel like crap for 2 days". Once you eat clean foods you won't want to eat the crap you used to eat because it not only keeps you from loosing weight, you realize that it was what was causing brain fog and lethargic feelings. Anyone over the age of 35 really needs to think about what they are putting into their bodies because, in my opinion, our bodies just get tired of coping with all the chemicals and preservatives, etc that we consume over the years.
I say go for it. And to all the negative naysayers out there, keep your ignorant opinions to yourself. Unless you have actually tried something, you really have no business knocking it.

"Just the fact that they claim that food choices are way more important than calories in or exercise calories out for weight loss says to me it's advertising, nothing more. There aren't things you have to rule out, there's no price you have to pay to know that eating less, and moving more is the way to lose weight!"

NOT TRUE!! All foods are either catabolic or anabolic. Catabolic foods require more calories than that food consists of to digest...forcing your body to find calories elsewhere just to finish digestion. Many fruits, melons, veggies and berries are catabolic. What you eat matters MORE than your total calorie intake. Imagine living on 1500 calories of soda vs. 1500 calories of fruits/veggies and lean proteins. Same calorie count...who's going to lose weight?? Avoid alcohol, breads, pasta, most dairy, and drinks other than water (be careful...you can drink too much water and wash out all nutrients). You can eat AS MUCH AS YOU WANT! 2/3 catabolic and 1/3 anabolic (lean proteins). You'll never be hungry and lose weight every day without exercise. You'll loose weight just by digesting food!!

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I would like to try the two first weeks to see if its changes i could live with before buying it is it really complicated does some one want to share...

Holy necro, Batman! This thread is 2 years old!!!

good lord...who dug this up? If anyone has looked at this and is considering spending money for diet and fitness advise on a website - you are already on a FREE site that gives you that and if you use GOOGLE you can find any type of recipe you want. Save your $ and use it for a gym membership or some organic veg :ohwell:

3 months now and lost almost 15 kilos. Believe whatever you want to believe

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How much lean muscle have i lost? None. In fact i have gained muscle.
How much stronger am i now. I am fitter stronger and have more energy now than i have had in many years.

But of course you wont belive that because it goes against your own beliefs.

I am not a first time poster but i am a last time poster here.
Again. Believe whatever you want to believe. No skin off my nose

Why does weight loss have to cost money? Just buy real food, eat less, move more, use this site to track the calories and put your $50 back in your pocket (or into a gym membership). You're willing to pay someone to give you info you can draw from countless free sites on the interwebz? You don't have to buy ANYTHING to lose weight... and doing so is foolish.

I was out for my morning walk and find that it is a great time for thinking. I have changed my mind. Why should I let a few people who resort to mockery and ridicule in order to try and discredit something that goes against what they think is true stop other people from hearing about alternatives.

I am a real person who is a real member of the subject of this thread. Believe that or don't believe it. I don't care.

A little of my history. In my youth I was one of those people who could eat a lot and never put on weight. I was fairly active but not deliberately so. Wasn't into sport or gyms. Just living my life and enjoying it. When I reached 45 I got the job of my dreams in IT as a programmer. Since then due to inactivity and ageing I guess, I have packed on the kilos. In 2008 I reached 112 kilos and decided to do something about it so I joined a 'free' site called Calorie King (also a calorie counting/exercise program). About a month later I was down to 108 kilos. But from there my weight loss plateaued and after another 5 months of not budging I became so sick of recording my meals for zero results and constantly battling hunger (especially at night) that I just stopped. Obviously the old ways crept back in. In 2010 I was at 116 kilos so tried calorie king again with exactly the same result. 2012 I joined my fitness pal thinking maybe a new program might be better. But nope this site was just like calorie king which I already knew does not work so I didn't last long. Anyway in December 2013 at 121 kilos I stumbled on beyond diet while surfing the web. I watched the sales pitch which made so much sense. But I wasn't forking over any money without checking it out so into trusty google I typed 'beyond diet scam' and third from the top was this thread so I read it all the way through. Many we're saying scam but not one of you could say why it was a scam other than to say why pay for something that you can get for free. So I joined and have been coming back here periodically to let the original poster and other interested people know of my progress.

But as usual you get your nay Sayers who think that an old thread with a new comment isn't worthy of consideration
Or those who ridicule and call me foolish for paying for something you can get for free.
Well I'm here to tell you that I have tried it your way several times and it didn't work.
Maybe it's working for you and I don't begrudge you that. That's great.
But it didn't work for me and reading threads here it is not working for a lot of other people here either.
No, in hindsight I can say it would have been foolish of me to listen to you and NOT to go the way I did.

My purpose here is not to convince people to join beyond diet. My purpose is to show people who, like me, reduced their calorie intake and increased their movement and yet still cannot loose weight, that there is a reason for that. Reducing calories just causes you body to fight your every effort to loose weight in a lot of people. Sure it works for some. But for many it just does not work.
Counting calories is not the best strategy to for loosing weight. A better strategy in my humble opinion and in my experience is

1) eating a balance of proteins,carbs and fats in every meal that you eat is far more important than how many calories
2) Being mindful of where your calories are coming from you can actually consume MORE calories and still loose weight.
Indeed eating the correct foods in correct balance will boost your metabolism and eating bad foods will decrease it
3) Eating 5 times a day maintains your blood sugar levels so that your body stays in fat burning mode instead of fat storing mode
...all day.

I never learnt that here or at calorie king. All I learnt is you can eat anything just keep calories in lower than calories out
It is not as simple as calories in verses colorise out. There is far more to it than that.

You can decide however you want to try loosing weight. But 47 dollars for what I have verses investing it in a gym. No contest. The gym looses. This is the best 47 dollars I ever spent and I don't care what you nay Sayers say

Hello it's dan
My apologies here are some of my numbers

Date.................Weight.....%Fat....%Water.....BMI
27/12/2013........121..........44.5......40.............?
27/01/2014........112.6.......37.4......45.6..........37
22/02/2014........108.3.......33.1......48.8..........35.6
22/03/2014........106.4.......31.2......50.1..........35

Of course they could be made up numbers but all I can say is that they are not.
And I also realise that scales that measure fat and water percentages are not all that accurate but everything I have read about them says that you can rely on the changes indicated in your boddy composition. So the scales show my fat is going down and my hydration is going up. And my body measurements confirm this as does my improved energy levels and just the way I feel.


And looking at my profile won't tell you anything because I don't log my calories or my exercise or my weight. It doesn't work for me so why would I do it

Wait...you went from 121kg on 12/27 to 106kg on 3/22, thats 30lbs+ lost in 3 months but your ticker only has a 4kg loss.
Doing the math with the BF% you're reporting going from 119lbs of fat to 72lbs of fat and gaining LBM from 147 to 161 at age 58?
Are you on TRT?

Also i'm not being snide like you assume, I'm just trying to understand the fascination with fad diets and seeing truly how valid they are.
If you've lost the weight, fantastic!
I personally cheer for people doing this!
My degree is in helping people live the longest lives they possibly can using Nutrition and Exercise Science.

You'r numbers for losing 30+ pounds look great, but what type of exercise are you doing to lose the fat and gain nearly 20lbs muscle in 3 months at age 58?
That part doesn't make sense to me.
20 year olds who are eating 4000cals a day and lifting heavy have a tough time doing this in a bulk.

Well I don't know how you calculated a 20 pound gain in muscle but according to my calculations, in 3 months I have had a

Loss....20.68 kilos of fat
Gain.....4.86 kilos of water
Gain.....1.12 kilos of everything else ( most likely muscle which is approx 2.5 lbs. not 20? )

Total....14.7 kilos loss

The fat and water being percentages, calculating the kilos for these are simply taking the percentage of your total weight

How I came up with those numbers I already told you. Scales that measure your weight,fat,water and BMI
These are not very good at reading your actual fat and water percentages but everything I have read says they are very good at reading changes. But as I also said, what I have lost is confirmed in my measurements, how I feel and the fact that all my clothes are now too big for me. I can actually put my socks on while standing on 1 leg again. I can get out of bed in one attempt again and without grunting and groaning. I can get up off the floor without having to kneel first again. No, I know it is not muscle that I am loosing, without a shadow of a doubt

As for exercise I do walking twice a day most days and weights 2 or 3 times a week. I don't do a lot of weights. I don't really want to gain muscle. I just want to loose fat

And like I already told you. It is pointless going to my profile since I have not recorded anything there in a long long time. Your way of doing it does not work for me. So why would I do something I hate doing. Recording calories on a meal by meal basis. How boring