Best pre-workout
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You can by caffeine pills in 200mgs for like $3.I'm a big fan of Coltrolled Labs' White Flood. IIRC it has ~180 mg's of caffeine per serving. It is powdered, though, so you can adjust what a "serving" is to you.
http://www.pipingrock.com/energy/caffeine-200-mg-39181?prd=D0000J&CAWELAID=1934925218&catargetid=600007550000003275&cadevice=c&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CJfqxIzIxbwCFdGUfgodkQsAaw
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Supplements today aren't that cheap. Is it wrong to ask why they think they need it? If they really don't need it, wouldn't it be more sensible to put it towards food that would supply better nutritional value to attain their goal? And the reality is most people probably don't need it, but use it because so many others are.broscience is "needing" a pre-workout when most people don't need anything and if that a cup of coffee will do the trick just fine- or you know- good old fashioned hard work.
Everyone wants to take something to make them better. How about just being better instead of taking stuff?
There is no "best pre-workout" it's a waste of money. Grumble all you want- but just going in and lifting the old fashioned way is not broscience- DYELB?
LOL. Yeah, I lift. I just find it funny that the gym rats (not saying YOU are one), love to either push product or poo-poo on anyone who doesn't do things SUPER PALEO NATURAL HARDCORE like they do. If someone wants a pre-workout, whats the big deal? Either real or perceived differences in the way someone trains is a matter of personal preference. Heck, if they wanna snort pixie stix, more power to them.
My point was the thread was asking for reco's on what a good pre-workout was. She didn't ask "are pre-workouts legit/placebo"...so many people got off topic. Now I am too. *kicks rocks*
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BCAA's is the only one I use...0
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A banana and a caffeine tablet.0
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I have tried many, many preworkout supplements.
I like C4. It is the best one I've tried and have been using it for a year now and have no intention of switching. Another one I have used and liked is Black Powder.0 -
the only two i've bought more than once or twice are NO Explode and Nitraflex...just a warning, you'll have to poop after the NO Explode0
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Bronkaid from Wal Mart (Ephedra) + Caffeine + Aspirin.
The tried and true ECA stack still exists.
Other than that, C4 is good.
bronkaid has ephedrine, not ephedra and taking that as a pre-workout is dumb as hell.
Pre-workout:
caffeine: 200 mg
vit b complex
beta-alnine
creatine
Buy separately and you can get all the top notch (actually scientifically proven) active ingredients to all the pre-workout mixes for 1/3 of the price of your premixed crap.
Yes it has ephedrine in it, but that is still part of the ECA stack... which is very effective. It is true that many perceive it to be dangerous, but I think that is true only if it is abused.
My recommendation is to use C4.
Yes, I know, I'm not a stranger to EC stacks. Now why you would suggest taking a combination of drugs that has thermogenic properties while raising your heart rate and suggest that someone go workout is, well, dumb. Cutting agents make ****ty preworkouts. Period. Sure, you may lose an extra pound or two a month by taking it pre-workout as opposed to post workout but at what risk? Suddenly finding out you have an existing heart condition that you never knew about and having a heart attack...that risk to benefit ratio is dumb.
It isn't about cutting fat genius. The point of a preworkout is to get your energy level up so you can crush your workout. An ECA stack is the closest thing to speed. 99% of the population probably shouldn't take it, but unless you've tried it, you don't know ****.0 -
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Ready to crush chest day with my cocaine.
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Most people take pre workouts because................well everyone is doing them. No real thought process on why, but because people who look like they are getting results should be emulated even if it is broscience.:indifferent: Sweet post, brah. She didn't ask if you needed outside help or IF she should take. She asked for good recommendations on pre-workouts.
We are not worthy of your au naturale awesomeness.
Broscience. :grumble:
Approach to working out is more about attitude. If one needs a "pick me up", they either are not nutritionally feeding right or they are lacking in the motivation department.
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Exactly^^^
The industry is flooded, so every magazine promotes it. You see Phil Heath on the cover, using pre-workouts, doing 5 different exercises for biceps curls, it must all work!! I can almost guarantee he ain't using that and he ain't doing that workout either, but that's a different topic to debate hahaha
People lifting for only a few months or 6 months, shouldn't really concern themselves with taking anything "extra". I see it way to often, guys or girls start lifting, few months in, they won't to take creatine, pre-workout, or whatever else they read about. Just eat a ton of real food, Lift heavy Sh@t, and put it down. I'm speaking from experience, had a guy just the other day, start asking me
about steroids. I told him to start deadlifting and get off the cable machine. seriously?
Up until 2 months ago, I had never even heard of "broscience" and had to look it up. Since I have no "degrees" or a weekend seminar for my PT , I guess I fall into the broscience group. I guess my 10+ years of lifting, and over 15 years of fitness experience count for nothing? The blood, sweat and tears on the bar don't hold any value ? haha funny, i'll listen to any guy or girl that's been lifting for years and put in the HARD work, over anybody with a degree, that's read every forum and fitness article, and has been lifting for 3 months.
I know i'm getting off topic here with my rant, just tired of this broscience stuff.
IN my opinion, the best pre-workout, is no pre-workout, unless you have the money to waste, then go ahead. again, my opinion. Take the broscience advice any way you want it.0 -
It's not sexy, but coffee is the best way to go. I have taken many pre-workout supps and still do. I will tell you of the pitfalls : Bloating, Adrenal fatigue, Possible future heart problems, Addiction.... and the list goes on. Pre-workout supplements can also be laced with illegal substances that are precursors to amphetamines (ds nutrition Craze, Ultimate Orange, Oxy Elite Pro) Supplement companies often run what is known in the industry as Hot Batches which contain questionable substances to boost word of mouth marketing to boost sales. I have found that the very best supplement to training is good loud music. For the most part pre-workouts are just yet another way for supplement companies to separate you from your money.0
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So now that that is out of the way here you go.
Cellucor HD very strong no bloating
Myogenix Hypershock semi strong heavy bloating
Infinite Labs Juggernaut very good stuff that tastes like poo
PS Hyde very strong
No Xplode overhyped poop in a flashy tub
MTS Nutrition Clash the very best of the best no jitters or side effects.
All of the rest for the most part are not so hot. You can also take a thermogenic fat burner and it will do the same thing in terms of generating energy. I would not under any circumstances recommend taking fat burners or pre-workouts before doing cardio. Very bad Idea. But, I am just a simple man and I do not claim to know anything about everything. Ask for samples wherever you go, and find one that you dig homegirl.0 -
It isn't about cutting fat genius. The point of a preworkout is to get your energy level up so you can crush your workout. An ECA stack is the closest thing to speed. 99% of the population probably shouldn't take it, but unless you've tried it, you don't know ****.
Holy balls you are thick.
An ECA stack is nowhere close to speed.
And yes, I've tried it, I love it except I nix the A bc of stomach issues.
We all get that the point of a pre-workout is to get your energy and concentration level up, no one is debating that.
Doing so with a stack that is thermogenic, raises your blood pressure, raises your heart rate, stresses your cardio system, makes you more numb to workload is a recipe for disaster in a pre-workout unless you really REALLY know what you are doing.
In the back of your head you pseudo already understand this when you say " 99% of the population probably shouldn't take it"
BUT the point I am making as why it is a horrible pre-workout is bc a soccer mom is going to read this forum post, think holy crap, I'll take a ECA stack because its an awesome pre-workout and burns the hell out of fat, then poops herself during a heart attack while on the treadmill trying to do some HIIT and now they start pulling bronkaid from store shelves due to R-tards like you recommending it openly to everyone without a single precautionary word thrown out there.0 -
It isn't about cutting fat genius. The point of a preworkout is to get your energy level up so you can crush your workout. An ECA stack is the closest thing to speed. 99% of the population probably shouldn't take it, but unless you've tried it, you don't know ****.
perhaps some sleep and good old fashioned motivation to crush your work out.
you don't need to get your energy levels up to crush you work out- you just need to go fricking do it- eat right and sleep enough.0 -
ECY stack (Ephedrine + Caffeine + Yohimbine) before a HIIT seassion=heart attack city. You'd probably have a death boner though.0
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I like Musclepharm Assault. No jitters, tingling skin, etc...works well for me.
I use this as well but I dont take it every workout - then you'll find yourself needing it but I dig it. Sometimes I just use the musclepharm aminos (which is a post) but i like to keep a good hydration going
remember: everything in moderation....especially moderation0 -
COLD *kitten* SHOWER before you hit the gym.... works like you would not believe......0
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Right now I am trying out C4 icy blue razz, 1 scoop with water. About to do some step aerobics and hula hoop with it. First time trying it out! Tastes good at least
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Right now I am trying out C4 icy blue razz, 1 scoop with water. About to do some step aerobics and hula hoop with it. First time trying it out! Tastes good at least
Been using this flavor the past few months. 2 scoops. Sometimes with an extra 100mg caffeine pill0 -
cellucor c4 fruit punch, does not make you jittery and tastes great0
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COLD *kitten* SHOWER before you hit the gym.... works like you would not believe......
I much prefer nookie- much more fun.0 -
COLD *kitten* SHOWER before you hit the gym.... works like you would not believe......
I much prefer nookie- much more fun.
in…for pre-gym nookie...0 -
cellucor c4 fruit punch, does not make you jittery and tastes great
I just tried this flavor and it is a nice change to Blue Razz.0 -
Bullnox Androrush, Muscle Pharm Assault, and Cellucor C4 are all quality pre-workouts.0
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Cellucor C4 Extreme for sure!!!0
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Food works quite well I've found.....0
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I'm on an EC stack to cut the last few % to 10%. No way in hell I'll take it before an HIIT session and it really shouldn't be thought of as a PWO. I do not suggest anyone take an EC stack. Im just experimenting with it.
As far as PWO's, I've typically avoided them. I do notice that the focus can help my form and reps, but, perhaps its all psychological. I rarely take them, so, I have no bias in favor. When I do take it its usually my friend's C4 and perhaps its the competition (i usually lift solo) that makes me perform better (highly likely).
Im not a fan of PWO's for cardio and I'd save PWO's for difficult training days at max intensities (weights, NOT cardio)
Putting additional stress on your heart is not the wisest idea and these companies are notorious for putting all sorts of weird crap in there (DMAA for example)
ETA: I have no recommendation because the things I take could probably kill you if you weren't in the same condition as me and doing the same style of training.0 -
If I am headed for the gym so early it is still dark I need to take a huge cup of willpower, honestly I cannot get out of bed without it. After work though that's different, willpower alone is not enough to get me there and get me through, so I get the boss to administer one big kick up the backside. On arrival, if I am still a bit sluggish when I get to the gym staff there are more than happy to give me a second dose. Be careful though, because 2 kick up the backsides mixed with the adrenaline rush of a 10 minute cardio warm up, may cause the user to enter beast mode and start lifting weights they had previously only dreamed of.
Post workout, now that's my favourite topic, I always go for "calories" cannot seem to end the day without some, in fact I think I may be a little addicted :-)0 -
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