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That's a big pet peeve of mine, too, when people post on things that they really have no vested interest in. If it doesn't concern you, stay out of it.

Personally I'm the other way around. I get annoyed when people screw up perfectly good recipes just because they're trying to reduce the caloreies, that's what portion control is all about.

Personally I'm the other way around. I get annoyed when people screw up perfectly good recipes just because they're trying to reduce the caloreies, that's what portion control is all about.

And just to add: Portion control and moderation are the two biggest lessons I had to learn. Once I learned them, the binging stopped.

Personally I'm the other way around. I get annoyed when people screw up perfectly good recipes just because they're trying to reduce the caloreies, that's what portion control is all about.

Ha that makes a touch of sense, but it's not like they are trying to replace all of your favorite treat with a diet version, they are just doing it for themselves and others like them.

I get annoyed when people preach moderation. That doesn't work for me. Eating processed junk only makes me have these annoying cravings for more and when I don't eat it they simply don't exist. But I'm supposed to eat junk food because that's not normal and is too extreme. You need cookies apparently.

I get annoyed when people preach moderation. That doesn't work for me. Eating processed junk only makes me have these annoying cravings for more and when I don't eat it they simply don't exist. But I'm supposed to eat junk food because that's not normal and is too extreme. You need cookies apparently.

I pretty much don't eat any processed junk and I'm still able to eat foods in moderation......not sure what you mean?

I get annoyed when people preach moderation. That doesn't work for me. Eating processed junk only makes me have these annoying cravings for more and when I don't eat it they simply don't exist. But I'm supposed to eat junk food because that's not normal and is too extreme. You need cookies apparently.

I pretty much don't eat any processed junk and I'm still able to eat foods in moderation......not sure what you mean?

I think this is referring to eating ALL foods you could ever want but in moderation, without completely eliminating anything you actually like from your diet and labeling it as bad. Example, cakes, donuts, soda/pop, fast food burgers , French fries, nuggets, etc

I get annoyed when people preach moderation. That doesn't work for me. Eating processed junk only makes me have these annoying cravings for more and when I don't eat it they simply don't exist. But I'm supposed to eat junk food because that's not normal and is too extreme. You need cookies apparently.

I pretty much don't eat any processed junk and I'm still able to eat foods in moderation......not sure what you mean?

I think this is referring to eating ALL foods you could ever want but in moderation, without completely eliminating anything you actually like from your diet and labeling it as bad. Example, cakes, donuts, soda/pop, fast food burgers , French fries, nuggets, etc

Ok, I read it differently. Restrict for sure if it's a problem.

I have to eat different than everyone else most of time to stay within my goals. I usually make a protein, starch and veggie for hubby at dinner. I make myself a huge salad, put the veggies and 4 ounces of whatever protein on it. I usually marinade, grill or bake a lean protein, fish etc. I stay away from the starch. I eat a salad and protein for lunch with some yogurt. Hubby might eat a sandwich. I do eat different but don't make a big deal out of it. When I am out or at someone's house, I eat the protein and veggie. No dessert or just one bite if they are very proud of what they made.

I modify recipes so reduce calories. This is what works for me

The problem with lower calorie, low fat, etc versions of ingredients is that they often swap one "evil" out for another. For low fat, they will sometimes increase the sugar or sodium; for lower calorie, they will swap out sugar for a processed sugar substitute. So yes, you can enjoy things more often if all you are doing is counting calories, but it's not necessarily "better" for you from a nutritional standpoint. Sometimes just a smaller portion of the real version really is the way to go.

ETA: I agree with the above ^ about the concern with your ED recovery and recipes. I hope you discuss this issue with your doctor, counselor, nutritionist, etc so they can help you figure out how to enjoy the foods you love in moderation.

OP - you are partially recovered from an eating disorder and yet you are now trying to lose more weight? I'm sure you hear quite a bit about not only the low cal recipes, but also that you should be working to fix your relationship with food and focusing on recovery. Frankly, the criticism about food replacements are often focused on the problem with having a bad relationship with food. That isn't people being mean to you. That is concern about your health.

Yup.

Part of the problem is that we have all made different choices about how to make these lifestyle changes. Some folks choose to eat clean, some paleo, etc. Unfortunately many become fanatics about their eating choices and believe in spreading the 'gospel.' It really is almost a religious thing.

Some people are willing to try modified recipes even if they include things like artificial sweeteners. Others consider artificial sweeteners to be evil and would rather die than eat food containing one. Both eating choices are perfectly acceptable. However it is frustrating to see posts where one tries to 'convert' the other.

Personally, I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't eat clean. I eat plenty of processed foods, so yes my sodium consumption tends to be higher, but I don't consider sodium in moderation to be evil. I am a type 2 diabetic, so I do make choices to reduce the carbs in my meals. That might mean mixing mashed cauliflower into the mashed potatoes. There are other things, like cheesecake that I am a purist about. It is the 'real' thing or nothing. When I want to have something like that, I work it into my calorie goals for the day.

There are times on the boards I wish people would respect the choices others make. Yes, when someone is making a truly unhealthy choice, we should offer sound advice. However the I see no reason to mock others and get sarcastic as happens all to often.

I get annoyed when people preach moderation. That doesn't work for me. Eating processed junk only makes me have these annoying cravings for more and when I don't eat it they simply don't exist. But I'm supposed to eat junk food because that's not normal and is too extreme. You need cookies apparently.

I pretty much don't eat any processed junk and I'm still able to eat foods in moderation......not sure what you mean?

Certain foods are triggers for me. If I don't eat them I can care less about them and I can easily turn them away without a second thought. But if I eat them it's not necessarily that I don't have self control, because I can still turn them down it's just I get persistent cravings for more. People who preach moderation act like I'm supposed to be eating junk all the time because it's awful to forbid yourself a donut! But it's harder to eat right when I'm battling cravings all the time.

Yeah, I misinterpreted it for sure, jane straightened me out.

I find both extremes pretty annoying. On the one side you have "Cauliflower can replace steak if you repeat to yourself that you're eating steak and try not to cry." and on the other you have "All foods are equally easy to fit into your nutrition goals... and trying new things is horrible anyway."

I've found some substitutions good (switched from rice to barley and haven't looked back since) and others... not so good (just to repeat what LexiMelo said, fat-free cheese doesn't melt).

No longer trying to lose to those who mentioned my eating disorder. I've had and I am having help and support, thanks for the concern

Very good to hear. Good luck and take care of yourself!