We don't know what constitutes a true paleo diet!
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Reasons to avoid paleo:
peanuts, roasted/salted
peanut butter
chocolate-covered peanuts
trail mix
sugar
milk
cheese
yogurt
sour cream
russet potatoes
wheat bread
white bread
Italian bread
French bread
croutons
biscuits
white rice
spaghetti
linguine
lasagna
macaroni & cheese
macaroni salads
fruit salads made with Cool Chip
candy/candy bars
cookies
cake
brownies
cream cheese
cheesecake
white chocolate caramel "cappuccino" that magically pours into the cup when you push the button
muffins
pancakes
waffles
crepes
whipped cream
chocolate chips
seedless watermelon
maraschino cherries
Jonathan apples
red delicious apples
granny smith apples
any other hybrid fruit (or veggie)
...and that's just off the top of my head.
I think you missed out peanut butter M&M's!! lol
Meh. Plain M&M's were implied in my mention of trail mix (tee hee). I actually am not a big fan of M&M's by themselves. They are for using in trail mix, cookies, etc. :bigsmile:
I'm disappointed Wendy how can you Not be following a paleo diet and Not be eating peanut butter M&M's do the others know?
Hey, I *do* eat chocolate-covered peanuts - same thing, just no candy shell.0 -
Legumes and all dairy are what I just laugh at with this dietary concept and have the most problem with. Those are excellent foods for the unsensitive majority.
Also the air of superiority that first came from its followers still lingers in my consciousness (even if the now vocal majority makes fun of it here).
For the vast majority that don't have allergy/ sensitivity issues with foods I think it is uncessarily restrictive and ascinine in it's rationale. Non sensitive individuals can eat all that is good about the diet without having to jump thru proverbial hoops to get the nutrition that you avoid by excluding certain foods. One can eat a whole food diet without eliminating food groups.
I do applaud the folks who "need" this diet to make themselves eat a majority of their diet as whole foods. If you need a slice of self righteousness with your motivation, then good for you for finding something that works for you.0 -
any paleo diet adherent that owns a refrigerator is a fraud.0
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Reasons to avoid paleo:
peanuts, roasted/salted
peanut butter
chocolate-covered peanuts
trail mix
sugar
milk
cheese
yogurt
sour cream
russet potatoes
wheat bread
white bread
Italian bread
French bread
croutons
biscuits
white rice
spaghetti
linguine
lasagna
macaroni & cheese
macaroni salads
fruit salads made with Cool Chip
candy/candy bars
cookies
cake
brownies
cream cheese
cheesecake
white chocolate caramel "cappuccino" that magically pours into the cup when you push the button
muffins
pancakes
waffles
crepes
whipped cream
chocolate chips
seedless watermelon
maraschino cherries
Jonathan apples
red delicious apples
granny smith apples
any other hybrid fruit (or veggie)
...and that's just off the top of my head.
I think you missed out peanut butter M&M's!! lol
Meh. Plain M&M's were implied in my mention of trail mix (tee hee). I actually am not a big fan of M&M's by themselves. They are for using in trail mix, cookies, etc. :bigsmile:
I'm disappointed Wendy how can you Not be following a paleo diet and Not be eating peanut butter M&M's do the others know?
Hey, I *do* eat chocolate-covered peanuts - same thing, just no candy shell.
I don't want to appear contentious (lol) but they are not the same thing - I could never get addicted to chocolate covered peanuts - where as peanut butter M&M's - shweet.
Their not readily available in the UK if they were I would be on the Peanut butter M&M's diet.
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Hey, I *do* eat chocolate-covered peanuts - same thing, just no candy shell.
I don't want to appear contentious (lol) but they are not the same thing - I could never get addicted to chocolate covered peanuts - where as peanut butter M&M's - shweet.
Their not readily available in the UK if they were I would be on the Peanut butter M&M's diet.
Hey, no, feel free. You are absolutely right. I once walked up and down the candy aisle of a convenience store, not finding Goobers. The clerk advised me that they had peanut M&M's, and I'm like, no, that's not the same thing. I left and found some at a different store up the street.
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Legumes and all dairy are what I just laugh at with this dietary concept and have the most problem with. Those are excellent foods for the unsensitive majority.
Also the air of superiority that first came from its followers still lingers in my consciousness (even if the now vocal majority makes fun of it here).
For the vast majority that don't have allergy/ sensitivity issues with foods I think it is uncessarily restrictive and ascinine in it's rationale. Non sensitive individuals can eat all that is good about the diet without having to jump thru proverbial hoops to get the nutrition that you avoid by excluding certain foods. One can eat a whole food diet without eliminating food groups.
I do applaud the folks who "need" this diet to make themselves eat a majority of their diet as whole foods. If you need a slice of self righteousness with your motivation, then good for you for finding something that works for you.
Where is this paleo self-righteousness? Are you talking about in life in general or on this site?
I ask because I'm quite new to the site (back after several years hiatus), and I just haven't seen any of this paleo self-righteousness, though I have seen a lot of what appears to me as needless paleo bashing from the non-paleo bunch. It just has me scratching my head for the most part.0 -
any paleo diet adherent that owns a refrigerator is a fraud.
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Any "paleo dieter" who consumes blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, cashews, brazil nuts, bison, turkey, chocolate, sunflower seeds, avocados is also a fraud! No paleolithic person had access to these delicious New World crops/foods.
Having spent a lot of time in remote indigenous communities in northern Canada, I see no parallels between the average hunter/gatherer's traditional diet and the modern, urban "paleo's" diet. Lean meat alone will kill you. The fat is where it's at! And the entrails. Of course, to a western palate none of this tastes good.0 -
Any "paleo dieter" who consumes blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, cashews, brazil nuts, bison, turkey, chocolate, sunflower seeds, avocados is also a fraud! No paleolithic person had access to these delicious New World crops/foods.
Having spent a lot of time in remote indigenous communities in northern Canada, I see no parallels between the average hunter/gatherer's traditional diet and the modern, urban "paleo's" diet. Lean meat alone will kill you. The fat is where it's at! And the entrails. Of course, to a western palate none of this tastes good.
Why do people get so hung up on the label? It's a guiding principle not a black-and-white testimony on to paleolithic ancestors. I've never seen so many people so focused on the literal before coming to this site. It just boggles the mind.0 -
Any "paleo dieter" who consumes blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, cashews, brazil nuts, bison, turkey, chocolate, sunflower seeds, avocados is also a fraud! No paleolithic person had access to these delicious New World crops/foods.
Having spent a lot of time in remote indigenous communities in northern Canada, I see no parallels between the average hunter/gatherer's traditional diet and the modern, urban "paleo's" diet. Lean meat alone will kill you. The fat is where it's at! And the entrails. Of course, to a western palate none of this tastes good.
Why do people get so hung up on the label? It's a guiding principle not a black-and-white testimony on to paleolithic ancestors. I've never seen so many people so focused on the literal before coming to this site. It just boggles the mind.
people mock it because it's nonsensical and based entirely on a false premise.
it's no different that the mocking that astrology would get on an astronomy site.0 -
Any "paleo dieter" who consumes blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, cashews, brazil nuts, bison, turkey, chocolate, sunflower seeds, avocados is also a fraud! No paleolithic person had access to these delicious New World crops/foods.
Having spent a lot of time in remote indigenous communities in northern Canada, I see no parallels between the average hunter/gatherer's traditional diet and the modern, urban "paleo's" diet. Lean meat alone will kill you. The fat is where it's at! And the entrails. Of course, to a western palate none of this tastes good.
Ouch - Sorry over zealous facepalm!!!!!
Is anybody actually reading the article I posted before unleashing their angry fingers?
Or like I probably guest when posting this article - we've already made up our mind on Jerry Springer the Musical!!!!!
Sorry about that!!! - carry on.0 -
"There’s never been a traditionally vegetarian culture"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_vegetarianism0 -
I'm a scientist. Bad labelling just gets to me the way slightly crooked pictures or mismatched socks might irritate other people. A label means a lot. If there is a more accurate term available to describe something, why not use it?0
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Any "paleo dieter" who consumes blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, cashews, brazil nuts, bison, turkey, chocolate, sunflower seeds, avocados is also a fraud! No paleolithic person had access to these delicious New World crops/foods.
Having spent a lot of time in remote indigenous communities in northern Canada, I see no parallels between the average hunter/gatherer's traditional diet and the modern, urban "paleo's" diet. Lean meat alone will kill you. The fat is where it's at! And the entrails. Of course, to a western palate none of this tastes good.
Why do people get so hung up on the label? It's a guiding principle not a black-and-white testimony on to paleolithic ancestors. I've never seen so many people so focused on the literal before coming to this site. It just boggles the mind.
people mock it because it's nonsensical and based entirely on a false premise.
it's no different that the mocking that astrology would get on an astronomy site.
Oh, lordy. More of the "no science exists" to substantiate it. Had this battle already. Not interested in another bout.
Such a shame that too many people (and perhaps it's just a very vocal minority) have such limited vision and apparent inability to actually read/research. Sure, there is no definitive study on Paleo/Primal in particular, but there are TONS of studies on various aspects of the lifestyle that is incorporated into the nutrition plan. You may not agree with them or their ultimate conclusions, but to say they don't exist is just ridiculous.0 -
I'm a scientist. Bad labelling just gets to me the way slightly crooked pictures or mismatched socks might irritate other people. A label means a lot. If there is a more accurate term available to describe something, why not use it?
True, but being a scientist (if you don't mind, which kind of scientist?), you can understand that when you're dealing with complicated phenomena or systems, that a simple label is almost impossible to create, no? And then when you're taking science and trying to make it palatable for the masses, such simplicity becomes all that more important so as to reach more people, right? So, imperfect labels that get a general (although not complete) idea across are better than labels that may be factually accurate but not marketable/palatable to non-scientific people, right?0 -
Honestly, I'm looking forward to the day when marketers begin labeling their packaging as "paleo/primal" like they did with organic and gluten-free.
I will laugh and laugh... :laugh:0 -
Any "paleo dieter" who consumes blueberries, tomatoes, potatoes, cashews, brazil nuts, bison, turkey, chocolate, sunflower seeds, avocados is also a fraud! No paleolithic person had access to these delicious New World crops/foods.
Having spent a lot of time in remote indigenous communities in northern Canada, I see no parallels between the average hunter/gatherer's traditional diet and the modern, urban "paleo's" diet. Lean meat alone will kill you. The fat is where it's at! And the entrails. Of course, to a western palate none of this tastes good.
Why do people get so hung up on the label? It's a guiding principle not a black-and-white testimony on to paleolithic ancestors. I've never seen so many people so focused on the literal before coming to this site. It just boggles the mind.
people mock it because it's nonsensical and based entirely on a false premise.
it's no different that the mocking that astrology would get on an astronomy site.
Oh, lordy. More of the "no science exists" to substantiate it. Had this battle already. Not interested in another bout.
Such a shame that too many people (and perhaps it's just a very vocal minority) have such limited vision and apparent inability to actually read/research. Sure, there is no definitive study on Paleo/Primal in particular, but there are TONS of studies on various aspects of the lifestyle that is incorporated into the nutrition plan. You may not agree with them or their ultimate conclusions, but to say they don't exist is just ridiculous.
Exactly how many of these studies that support various components of the paleo/primal diet have you actually read?0 -
Honestly, I'm looking forward to the day when marketers begin labeling their packaging as "paleo/primal" like they did with organic and gluten-free.
I will laugh and laugh... :laugh:
why so bitter about the world? what'd paleo/primal eaters ever do to you? sounds like they kidnapped your parents or something the way you talk about them. lol
live and let live babycakes. 0 -
Honestly, I'm looking forward to the day when marketers begin labeling their packaging as "paleo/primal" like they did with organic and gluten-free.
I will laugh and laugh... :laugh:
why so bitter about the world? what'd paleo/primal eaters ever do to you? sounds like they kidnapped your parents or something the way you talk about them. lol
live and let live babycakes.
What exactly did I say about paleo/primal eaters that gave you the impression I feel bitterness towards them?
I implied that they fall by way of the mindless sheep that believe everything marketers claim and declare. But most of the general public does...0
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