Crossfit a Load of Shizzdoodles
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OR you could just not grossly over-exaggerate what an actual CrossFit workout which incorporates running and lifting is like. Why spread misinformation?
Go back and read my posts-thoroughly. One who does so would get that the "zillion" comment was obviously not literal. I responded with a list of just a few WODs that incorporate cardio prior to technical lifts so no misinformation was given on my part. Sorry, I'm just not a fan of that type of programming, regardless of how much the Rx is "scaled down" That is one of my few (yes, FEW) issues I have with Crossfit. That's my opinion and that's what the OP asked for in in this thread. If you don't agree with it, that's fine, you're more than entitled to be.
I'm not this "big-bad" hater of your Crossfit, as explained in my first post. As a fitness professional, I've spent enough time around it to have an opinion of the good and the bad. Again, if you or anyone else doesn't agree with it that's fine.
...and now I remember why I stay out of these Crossfit threads. This is almost as bad as the Planet Fitness threads. :laugh:
Was the "2 mile run" part of your post literal or hyperbole?
In my time at crossfit, I never did anything close to a 2 mile run prior to any lifting...
...and if I ever did, hypothetically speaking, I would scale the weight *way* back.0 -
I can recommend a good spinal surgeon for those two guys (especially the little dude) tossing the barbell back and forth. They can call in 20 years (or sooner) when 1/4 of their discs are either shot, slipped, etc.
I have also never seen this...uh...exercise movement in any crossfit gym...ever...
...but the bar they're playing catch with has bumper plates, so it *must* be crossfit, right?0 -
I don't necessarily have an opinion on this subject, but the word "shizzdoodles" attracted me to your post.
^^ This. New word is hereby adopted.0 -
I think I would rather be caught crossfitting then doing anything associated with Richard Simmons
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I agree to an extent. What constitutes being the "fittest in the world" is highly subjective.0
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"Shizzdoodles"
Classic!0 -
I've seen sillier.
Prancersize anyone?
Wow. Thank you for sending to me on a google search to find that. LOL. That made my day.0 -
FTW...just saying...
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Don't knock it until you try it. And if you have tried it, but found it silly, then you did not have a good trainer.0
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The spinal surgeon recommendation is for those guys, regardless of whether or not they are crossfitters. Blame the person who created the animated gif!0
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I don't think any form of exercise is "shizzdoodles". As long as people are getting out there and moving, I say, more power to ya! I do think it's overrated but hey, if it makes you happy and you got the money to pay for it, I say go for it.0
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Love it or hate it, Bro Science Life made a great video on the topic of CrossFit.
http://youtu.be/qnjYyfkcaNI 0 -
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They need to make a Thighmaster Shakeweight.0
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Overly expensive? Sure.
At times dangerous? If you go to a bad box with bad trainers, yes, absolutely.
Pushers of the paleo diet? Don't even get me started.
HOWEVER, anything that gets people motivated to work out is cool by me. Plus, crossfit has done a ton to bring lifting back into the mainstream, and demystify it for women.
Can you get the same or better results for a lot less money? Yes. But, if you have the money, and are willing to pay it for the crossfit dynamic (which can be very motivating), then do your thing.0 -
$125 for unlimited couple. One on one on boarding (training for 6 days)
There are ALWAYS at least 2 coaches walking around watching our form.
And most of the time 2 on the floor working out with us.
Maybe I am blessed to be going to a good box. If you're form is not correct, they will strip your bar and make you workout without any weights, just the barbell or pvc pipe.
If you have hip/shoulder or whatever kind of mobility issues, they offer us alternative routines or show us how to scale it back.
I find it is motivating and encouraging.. I would rather be lifting like this than to go back to my 5lb dumbells wondering what the hell I am doing and not feeling like I am accomplishing anything.0 -
Was the "2 mile run" part of your post literal or hyperbole?
In my time at crossfit, I never did anything close to a 2 mile run prior to any lifting...
...and if I ever did, hypothetically speaking, I would scale the weight *way* back.
Nancy run total - 1.2 Miles
Badger run total - 1.5 Miles
So if you wish to bash my post for being off by .8 to .5 Miles then more power to you, as you missed my point completely anyway and I'm sure will continue to do so. As a fan of Crossfit did you even watch the games last year? They had at least 2 events - (Burden Run, Naughty Nancy) that were @ or close to having 2 Miles of running w/lifting or technical lifts after them.
So.....no hyperbole here, Sweetie
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They need to make a Thighmaster Shakeweight.
I think you can find those in the Adam and Eve catalog.0 -
I think the cost is outrageous. We have a similar class available at our local YMCA and physically it is no joke. It kicks my *kitten* every time. What I like about it is that everyone is doing it together and we have an instructor. It motivates me and is an awesome work out. Strength and a cardiovascular at the same time.
I've never taken an actual Cross-Fit class so I can't quite compare the two. I just know that our instructor at the Y does Cross-fit as well and our class is modeled after it. I have known some people who became obsessed with the cross-fit lifestyle to a point of excess, which is irritating. I am a firm believer in everything in moderation. I wont do the paleo diet and I refuse to turn my facebook into a constant stream of Cross-Fit propaganda.
That's my two-cents.
I used to think that the cost of some washers/dryers was ridiculous and that my budget model was more than adequate...until I bought the better ones and experienced the difference for myself.
I used to think that the cost of some refrigerators was ridiculous and that my budget model was more than adequate...until I bought a better one and experienced the difference for myself.
I used to think that the cost of some clothing lines was ridiculous and that my budget clothes were more than adequate...until I bought better ones and experienced the difference for myself.
I suspect the same is true of many other things in life too (like luxury autos).
Sometimes, the best value involves spending more money. Is this specific instance one of those cases? Maybe not...but maybe so.
TL;DR - you don't know until you know.
considering spending that much on any kind of sport or recreation is beyond what my budget can stretch to, it'll stay in the "maybe not, maybe so" - I'm sure if i had a lot more money my decisions about what to spend money on and when not to spend money would be totally different.
Also, I'd like to know what crossfit could give me that playing competitive ice hockey and doing powerlifting couldn't do.... because if i had more money and access to an ice rink, that's what I'd go for and it would still be cheaper than crossfit.
I get you re very often more expensive things really are better... I'm not convinced that crossfit is better than other kinds of training.... but if I had enough money that 180 dollars a month was peanuts, i'd probably do crossfit (as well as ice hockey and powerlifting) because it looks kind of fun, plus there's the camaraderie (which you can also get by playing any team sport, but it does add to the appeal of crossfit nevertheless)
On my actual budget though (as opposed to an imaginary one that I'd love to have where 180 dollars is peanuts).... it ain't gonna happen0 -
Love it or hate it, Bro Science Life made a great video on the topic of CrossFit.http://youtu.be/qnjYyfkcaNI
Beat me to the punch. This vid is great.0 -
Was the "2 mile run" part of your post literal or hyperbole?
In my time at crossfit, I never did anything close to a 2 mile run prior to any lifting...
...and if I ever did, hypothetically speaking, I would scale the weight *way* back.
Nancy run total - 1.2 Miles
Badger run total - 1.5 Miles
So if you wish to bash my post for being off by .8 to .5 Miles then more power to you, as you missed my point completely anyway and I'm sure will continue to do so. As a fan of Crossfit did you even watch the games last year? They had at least 2 events - (Burden Run, Naughty Nancy) that were @ or close to having 2 Miles of running w/lifting or technical lifts after them.
So.....no hyperbole here, Sweetie
You are talking about how much TOTAL running there is in those workouts but it is key to remember you are not doing all that running at once.
Nancy - 5 rounds 400 m run and 15 overhead squats @ 95 lbs
Badger - 3 rounds 30 cleans @ 95 lbs, 30 pull-ups, and 800 M run
The way you are saying it seems to imply that one is expected to run the entire mile or two and THEN start lifting which simply is not the case.0 -
You are talking about how much TOTAL running there is in those workouts but it is key to remember you are not doing all that running at once.
Nancy - 5 rounds 400 m run and 15 overhead squats @ 95 lbs
Badger - 3 rounds 30 cleans @ 95 lbs, 30 pull-ups, and 800 M run
The way you are saying it seems to imply that one is expected to run the entire mile or two and THEN start lifting which simply is not the case.
Absolutely no confusion at all on my part as far as the WODs & the order they are performed or am I implying what you're saying I am.0 -
They need to make a Thighmaster Shakeweight.
I think you can find those in the Adam and Eve catalog.
Link?0 -
Was the "2 mile run" part of your post literal or hyperbole?
In my time at crossfit, I never did anything close to a 2 mile run prior to any lifting...
...and if I ever did, hypothetically speaking, I would scale the weight *way* back.
Nancy run total - 1.2 Miles
Badger run total - 1.5 Miles
So if you wish to bash my post for being off by .8 to .5 Miles then more power to you, as you missed my point completely anyway and I'm sure will continue to do so. As a fan of Crossfit did you even watch the games last year? They had at least 2 events - (Burden Run, Naughty Nancy) that were @ or close to having 2 Miles of running w/lifting or technical lifts after them.
So.....no hyperbole here, Sweetie
Did you really just use the crossfit games as justification for your disdain of regular programming???
If the crossfit games are any indication, then very few people should ever do crossfit because what they do in the games is hardcore.
Have you ever done Nancy? (Stop giggling.) Nancy is 5 rounds of 400 meter run and 95 pound(rx) x15 overhead squat. When I did it the first time, I used a 15 pound trainer bar. Still, it wasn't even fatigue from the run that was my limiting factor, it was those damn hard OH squats (even with just 15 pounds. What it wasn't was 2 miles of running followed by a zillion reps of deadlift.
I've never done/heard of Badger. Apparently, that's a hero WOD...which is why I've never tried it or even heard of it. (Hero WODs were optional Sunday workouts.) Hero WODs are special advanced WODs that only crazy people do. Er, I mean, that advanced members do. For those curious, it's three rounds of 95 pound squat cleans x 30, 30 pull-ups, and 800 meter run. In that WOD, I'd have to knock the weight way down on cleans, and band the pull-ups. Hell, I'd look forward to the 800 meter run...okay, jog...as a kind of rest for my arms/upper back. Whatever it is (and how I would approach it), it isn't 2 miles of running followed by a zillion reps of deadlift.
Hey, I get it. Some of the crossfit WODs (especially if you're including the Hero WODs) are ridiculous (especially if someone is stubborn (or clueless) and trying to use too much weight). Fortunately for me, the gym I went to didn't do a lot of ridiculous WODs...and the few times when they determined a particular WOD was problematic in the earliest class, they would further scale it for the later classes. Many times when my starting weight was too much, I'd strip it mid-WOD. (True story: determining appropriate weight for first time through a WOD was the hardest/most frustrating part of my crossfit experience.) None of these are compelling reasons not to do crossfit (IMHO).
ETA: So yeah, much hyperbole in your post...absent the semantic gymnastics necessary to try to persuade otherwise.0 -
They need to make a Thighmaster Shakeweight.
I think you can find those in the Adam and Eve catalog.
By the way, thank you for helping me in my attempt to devolve this conversation and defeat the evil forces that are actually still analyzing CF. We need to follow the leadership of the weightlifting dogs and the prancercise video!0 -
I think the cost is outrageous. We have a similar class available at our local YMCA and physically it is no joke. It kicks my *kitten* every time. What I like about it is that everyone is doing it together and we have an instructor. It motivates me and is an awesome work out. Strength and a cardiovascular at the same time.
I've never taken an actual Cross-Fit class so I can't quite compare the two. I just know that our instructor at the Y does Cross-fit as well and our class is modeled after it. I have known some people who became obsessed with the cross-fit lifestyle to a point of excess, which is irritating. I am a firm believer in everything in moderation. I wont do the paleo diet and I refuse to turn my facebook into a constant stream of Cross-Fit propaganda.
That's my two-cents.
I used to think that the cost of some washers/dryers was ridiculous and that my budget model was more than adequate...until I bought the better ones and experienced the difference for myself.
I used to think that the cost of some refrigerators was ridiculous and that my budget model was more than adequate...until I bought a better one and experienced the difference for myself.
I used to think that the cost of some clothing lines was ridiculous and that my budget clothes were more than adequate...until I bought better ones and experienced the difference for myself.
I suspect the same is true of many other things in life too (like luxury autos).
Sometimes, the best value involves spending more money. Is this specific instance one of those cases? Maybe not...but maybe so.
TL;DR - you don't know until you know.
considering spending that much on any kind of sport or recreation is beyond what my budget can stretch to, it'll stay in the "maybe not, maybe so" - I'm sure if i had a lot more money my decisions about what to spend money on and when not to spend money would be totally different.
Also, I'd like to know what crossfit could give me that playing competitive ice hockey and doing powerlifting couldn't do.... because if i had more money and access to an ice rink, that's what I'd go for and it would still be cheaper than crossfit.
I get you re very often more expensive things really are better... I'm not convinced that crossfit is better than other kinds of training.... but if I had enough money that 180 dollars a month was peanuts, i'd probably do crossfit (as well as ice hockey and powerlifting) because it looks kind of fun, plus there's the camaraderie (which you can also get by playing any team sport, but it does add to the appeal of crossfit nevertheless)
On my actual budget though (as opposed to an imaginary one that I'd love to have where 180 dollars is peanuts).... it ain't gonna happen
I don't disagree with this post at all. We all have to work within the constraints we have, be them money, time, energy, or other. I'm just saying that (IMHO) crossfit should not be immediately dismissed as a viable and worthwhile endeavor. I'm just trying to be a voice of reason offsetting those railing against it without any actual experience (or an isolated bad experience) with it.
Full disclosure: I am not currently doing crossfit, partially because of the additional time commitment of working out outside my own basement gym and partially because of the money. Could I make it work? Sure. I'm just choosing not to at this point.
So can you make progress towards your fitness goals without crossfit? Absolutely. Might crossfit be an effective tool in making progress towards your fitness goals? Absolutely.0 -
You are talking about how much TOTAL running there is in those workouts but it is key to remember you are not doing all that running at once.
Nancy - 5 rounds 400 m run and 15 overhead squats @ 95 lbs
Badger - 3 rounds 30 cleans @ 95 lbs, 30 pull-ups, and 800 M run
The way you are saying it seems to imply that one is expected to run the entire mile or two and THEN start lifting which simply is not the case.
Absolutely no confusion at all on my part as far as the WODs & the order they are performed or am I implying what you're saying I am.
oh really?I do like a lot of things about Crossfit, but the problem with it is the crappy programming (e.g. 2 miles runs followed by a zillion reps of Deadlifts or other very technical lifts like Power Cleans) and the lack of experience of a lot of the coaches.Nancy, Josh, Badger, Bulger - to name just a few WODs that fatigue you with cardio then have you do technical lifts after the fact.
I must have missed the part where you mentioned that you don't do all the running at once.0 -
Must be my age showing , but I guess recently doesn't include the 80's.:laugh:I cant wait to see if people will completely rip into me about this,
But seriously, who thinks Crossfit is one of the silliest, albeit most hilarious, things to enter the fitness world recently?!?!0 -
Step Aerobics
I went once when i was younger (mid 20s) and this is no lie, completely lost my balance on some crazy half assed turn around step backwards onto the step, fell over and proceeded to knock out clean out for 10mins the poor girl in-front of me when i stumbled into her in a flail of arms and legs.
I didn't last long in that gym, there was dagger eyes from every single woman in the place
was a really nice place as well. 0 -
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