Coffee over food?
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Nah, I just go through phases. I'll probably have forgotten about it by next week anyway.Between this thread and the other thread: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214161-thinspiration
It's painfully obvious that OP does have an ED or is at least on the path to one.
Please seek professional help, for the sake of your health.
From personal experience: the phases come and go, sure. But then they stay longer and longer and longer until you finally decide to keep it around. Plus there's a reason you go through these phases in the first place? And it certainly isn't based out of, " I want to be healthy/healthier.'
I also love coffee, though. I would drink it black every single day if I could -- and for a while I did, to replace meals, though I wasn't doing this out of a ED mindset (most times), I just thought it was convenient. However, having anxiety & just being really very sensitive to caffeine (I either feel like I did a line and I am God, or like there is impending doom and nothing will ever be, or ever has been, okay.) I had to give it up, at least on a daily basis. I thought I'd gain a lot of weight because I'd have to eat a -real breakfast- but in fact I've LOST a lot of weight, especially in my stomach area. Coffee has a very strong impact on your adrenal glands = creates stress = creates flabby midsection. By switching to tea, not only have my muscles actually been able to come out a little bit more, but my hair is shinier, my skin is healthier, my eyes are brighter, I sleep better, etc. I owe ALL of this to not drinking as much coffee.
...So basically, coffee is a poison. But it is such a -good tasting- poison
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Also wanted to add one thing that might interest you, since you do want to be fitter: One of the reasons why I drank it so much was because it apparently is a very good pain reliever! A lot of athletes drink coffee for sore muscles.
However, coffee does leech and inhibit a lot of vitamin and minerals. Vitamin D and iron especially, which are very important for physical and mental health. Even decaf does this.0 -
Thanks for the tips everyone! I'm not 100 percent sure what protein actually does, but it's only a google search away. Conclusion: keep drinking coffee, eat more, strength training, protein.
Pretty much - If your weight is at a place where you are comfortable and the body fat is the issue, I would set my cals at maintenance rather than for a loss - the nutrients in proteins aid in building muscle - if you are set at maintenance you should be able to easily fit in your coffee treats. Personally I would track my calories more closely at maintenance because you will no longer be set to lose - depending on the amount of exercise I got I might try to stay a wee bit below for the first while.0 -
So I love coffee. I get a latte once a week at the local coffee shop (it's my treat hehe) and every other day have an iced latte or two (or three) that replace my "real food", save a bowl of oats in the morning, carrot sticks and a couple of plain scrambled eggs. I know it's bad because MFP keeps telling me that I'll be 40 kg in five weeks or whatever. But I kind of prefer my coffee. Anyone else feel the same?
I love my coffee too - yes sometimes more than my food, but coffee is not a substitute for food.
If MFP have expressed concerns - it's because they concerned for you!
I would suggest speaking to dietitian or nutritionist and getting an eating plan put into place that will suit you and be healthy.
Good luck with which ever path you go down.0 -
Each coffee only has about 30 calories, save my lattes
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Are you for real or are you just waiting for ppl to take the bait
I see your posting about 'thinspiration' and not eating real food. either your doing it just to get a reaction or you have a problem.
You better watch out that your irresponsible posting wont get reported!0 -
So I love coffee. I get a latte once a week at the local coffee shop (it's my treat hehe) and every other day have an iced latte or two (or three) that replace my "real food", save a bowl of oats in the morning, carrot sticks and a couple of plain scrambled eggs. I know it's bad because MFP keeps telling me that I'll be 40 kg in five weeks or whatever. But I kind of prefer my coffee. Anyone else feel the same?
I love my coffee too - yes sometimes more than my food, but coffee is not a substitute for food.
If MFP have expressed concerns - it's because they concerned for you!
I would suggest speaking to dietitian or nutritionist and getting an eating plan put into place that will suit you and be healthy.
Good luck with which ever path you go down.
So I've been told, but honestly it seems more like they want to lecture me on my lifestyle and tell me about the dangers of EDs.0 -
Are you for real or are you just waiting for ppl to take the bait
I see your posting about 'thinspiration' and not eating real food. either your doing it just to get a reaction or you have a problem.
You better watch out that your irresponsible posting wont get reported!
I was just posting what's been on my mind. I wasn't the person who turned my other thread into a massive fight. If you look at the OP for both threads, neither of them were to get reactions. They were to ask questions.0 -
If that's the case then you may have to consider seeking medical advice0
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I used to work at Starbucks some years ago - the only water we'd put in an iced latte would be the ice.Wouldn't that be like a coffee milkshake? Bleh. The right way to make an iced coffee is with 5/6 water to 1/6 nonfat milk and as much actual coffee as desired. Just saying.
If you are replacing a meal with 30 calories of coffee, then I'm afraid that it DOES sound like eating disorder area to me. 30 calories in your drink as well as normal food, fair enough.
But then, gain, if you otherwise meat your macro goals, fair enough.
People are telling you about the dangers of ED because they are genuinly worried - a lot of people don't realise they have them and do end up causing some longer term issues by not addressing them.0 -
I used to work at Starbucks some years ago - the only water we'd put in an iced latte would be the ice.Wouldn't that be like a coffee milkshake? Bleh. The right way to make an iced coffee is with 5/6 water to 1/6 nonfat milk and as much actual coffee as desired. Just saying.
If you are replacing a meal with 30 calories of coffee, then I'm afraid that it DOES sound like eating disorder area to me. 30 calories in your drink as well as normal food, fair enough.
But then, gain, if you otherwise meat your macro goals, fair enough.
People are telling you about the dangers of ED because they are genuinly worried - a lot of people don't realise they have them and do end up causing some longer term issues by not addressing them.
I'm smart enough to know what my body needs. If I was feeling lightheaded or whatever, I'd know it was the lack of sugar, I'd eat a pop tart or something and go back to whatever I was doing.0 -
I used to work at Starbucks some years ago - the only water we'd put in an iced latte would be the ice.Wouldn't that be like a coffee milkshake? Bleh. The right way to make an iced coffee is with 5/6 water to 1/6 nonfat milk and as much actual coffee as desired. Just saying.
If you are replacing a meal with 30 calories of coffee, then I'm afraid that it DOES sound like eating disorder area to me. 30 calories in your drink as well as normal food, fair enough.
But then, gain, if you otherwise meat your macro goals, fair enough.
People are telling you about the dangers of ED because they are genuinly worried - a lot of people don't realise they have them and do end up causing some longer term issues by not addressing them.
I'm smart enough to know what my body needs. If I was feeling lightheaded or whatever, I'd know it was the lack of sugar, I'd eat a pop tart or something and go back to whatever I was doing.
You shouldn't be getting light headed in the first place if you truly knew what your body needed. You didn't even know what protein was for. If you keep denying what people are telling you then why are you still posting? Go ask a doctor if you're truly worried about it or take the advice on here and do it.0 -
I used to work at Starbucks some years ago - the only water we'd put in an iced latte would be the ice.Wouldn't that be like a coffee milkshake? Bleh. The right way to make an iced coffee is with 5/6 water to 1/6 nonfat milk and as much actual coffee as desired. Just saying.
If you are replacing a meal with 30 calories of coffee, then I'm afraid that it DOES sound like eating disorder area to me. 30 calories in your drink as well as normal food, fair enough.
But then, gain, if you otherwise meat your macro goals, fair enough.
People are telling you about the dangers of ED because they are genuinly worried - a lot of people don't realise they have them and do end up causing some longer term issues by not addressing them.
I'm smart enough to know what my body needs. If I was feeling lightheaded or whatever, I'd know it was the lack of sugar, I'd eat a pop tart or something and go back to whatever I was doing.
The fact that you let yourself get to the point of being lightheaded is the concern0 -
I'm 5"3.4 and 110 pounds, it doesn't take much.
I used to work at Starbucks some years ago - the only water we'd put in an iced latte would be the ice.Wouldn't that be like a coffee milkshake? Bleh. The right way to make an iced coffee is with 5/6 water to 1/6 nonfat milk and as much actual coffee as desired. Just saying.
If you are replacing a meal with 30 calories of coffee, then I'm afraid that it DOES sound like eating disorder area to me. 30 calories in your drink as well as normal food, fair enough.
But then, gain, if you otherwise meat your macro goals, fair enough.
People are telling you about the dangers of ED because they are genuinly worried - a lot of people don't realise they have them and do end up causing some longer term issues by not addressing them.
I'm smart enough to know what my body needs. If I was feeling lightheaded or whatever, I'd know it was the lack of sugar, I'd eat a pop tart or something and go back to whatever I was doing.
The fact that you let yourself get to the point of being lightheaded is the concern0 -
Dunno if you can tell, but I dropped Home Ec and Health Sciences in year nine and did physics instead. That speaks for itself. I know nothing about nutrition.
I used to work at Starbucks some years ago - the only water we'd put in an iced latte would be the ice.Wouldn't that be like a coffee milkshake? Bleh. The right way to make an iced coffee is with 5/6 water to 1/6 nonfat milk and as much actual coffee as desired. Just saying.
If you are replacing a meal with 30 calories of coffee, then I'm afraid that it DOES sound like eating disorder area to me. 30 calories in your drink as well as normal food, fair enough.
But then, gain, if you otherwise meat your macro goals, fair enough.
People are telling you about the dangers of ED because they are genuinly worried - a lot of people don't realise they have them and do end up causing some longer term issues by not addressing them.
I'm smart enough to know what my body needs. If I was feeling lightheaded or whatever, I'd know it was the lack of sugar, I'd eat a pop tart or something and go back to whatever I was doing.
You shouldn't be getting light headed in the first place if you truly knew what your body needed. You didn't even know what protein was for. If you keep denying what people are telling you then why are you still posting? Go ask a doctor if you're truly worried about it or take the advice on here and do it.0 -
I'm 5"3.4 and 110 pounds, it doesn't take much.
I'm smart enough to know what my body needs. If I was feeling lightheaded or whatever, I'd know it was the lack of sugar, I'd eat a pop tart or something and go back to whatever I was doing.
The fact that you let yourself get to the point of being lightheaded is the concern
Okay I'm 5'3.5" and 116 lbs. Yes it does and you need help or in the least an adjustment of mindset. You should not be getting dizzy. Out of curiosity, how much are you eating? If you're replacing 30 calories of coffee for food, this just screams for help. I truly wish you the best and I hope you don't take offense to everyone's replies (I'm sure you are because it's personal) but think about what you're saying. Nothing you listed of food you eat seems substantial or sustainable. I wish you the best.0 -
Coffee over Life, yo.
The the OP - check out Alan Aragon if you want some amazing nutritional advice. Doing your own research is the key, but if you wanna start with one of the best sources out there, he is your man. Good luck :flowerforyou:0 -
It's an okay weight for me as I'm pretty short (5"3.4). But yeah, I'm trying to do more squats and whatnot because being toned would be awesome.
Have you thought about eating at a slight surplus and adding resistance training. This would be a 'clean bulk'. You'd add muscle and fat (dropping the fat later by cutting)
If the scale bothers you, you could set yourself a maximum weight then diet down again. Rinse and repeat.
As to the coffee question. If it's a latte, then you're actually hitting your macros quite well (milk is great - no fibre in there though) I wouldn't be averse to replacing the odd meal with a milky coffee but I certainly couldn't drink it all day instead of food.
I sometimes enjoy a protein coffee, also - vanilla whey made with milk then add coffee - vanilla latte
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I think the advice to up your calories to maintenance, get enough protein, and start a lifting program is spot on for your stated goals.
A number of people have mentioned concerns about you being on the path to an ED. We don't know you or your life that well, but you do show a lot of the signs. I hope you can take it as thoughtful concern rather than an attack. Take a hard look at your motivations and actions. Talk to a doctor or qualified counselor.
This blog has links to help if you need it.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/eating-disorders-a-place-for-help-6230130 -
It's an okay weight for me as I'm pretty short (5"3.4). But yeah, I'm trying to do more squats and whatnot because being toned would be awesome.
Have you thought about eating at a slight surplus and adding resistance training. This would be a 'clean bulk'. You'd add muscle and fat (dropping the fat later by cutting)
If the scale bothers you, you could set yourself a maximum weight then diet down again. Rinse and repeat.
As to the coffee question. If it's a latte, then you're actually hitting your macros quite well (milk is great - no fibre in there though) I wouldn't be averse to replacing the odd meal with a milky coffee but I certainly couldn't drink it all day instead of food.
I sometimes enjoy a protein coffee, also - vanilla whey made with milk then add coffee - vanilla latte
Lattes are hard to beat. Unfortunately it's expensive which is why it's a once a week thing.0 -
Yet star bucks scares you...........seriously?I don't have an ED, I just really like coffee.0 -
It was a joke, it "scares" me because it's blatant consumerism, and full of sugar and calories. That being said, they do treat their staff well. My dorm mate works there.
Yet star bucks scares you...........seriously?I don't have an ED, I just really like coffee.0 -
drink your coffee... you might want to try to add some protein powder to it, but to get rid of stored fat and get muscle you need to workout and increase your calories using more protein. google it, you'll find how important it is.0
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I didn't need someone to convince me to continue drinking coffee, lol.drink your coffee... you might want to try to add some protein powder to it, but to get rid of stored fat and get muscle you need to workout and increase your calories using more protein. google it, you'll find how important it is.0 -
But the point is, I'm going to be ok regardless of anything that happens here.0
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Just read some of the OP's comments on the cheat meal thread - not sure if this is some kind of a wind up.
Either way OP - get some help!0 -
Look at the original post - it's no wind upJust read some of the OP's comments on the cheat meal thread - not sure if this is some kind of a wind up.
Either way OP - get some help!0 -
Not when I worked there. Ok, it wasn't 0 hour contracts, but you were expected to work 40 hours while contracted for 32.That being said, they do treat their staff well. My dorm mate works there.
Then they'd try and cut back hours where possible. So you had to work longer if they needed you, but you got less holiday pay and often worked shorter shifts - for those with a good bit to travel, it could make quite a difference.
Then there was the manager (who was supposed to be friends with the district manager) who got pushed so far she had a mental breakdown.
That they encourage quick close-downs to save pay, then expect the rubbish and dried milk to magically disappear over night.
That they're quite happy for you to have more responsibility - but to get properly recognised for that... another thing.
Of course 'YMMV' with area.
Anyway... when you say you're doing squats, is this with weight?
Again, my normal suggestions apply:
A routine like starting strength/strong lifts NROLW.
1g/lb of body weight protein.
Seeing that you mention morning running elsewhere, a lot of what you mention sounds like it's quite likely to lead to muscle as well as fat loss.0 -
But the point is, I'm going to be ok regardless of anything that happens here.
If you continue eating 600 calories a day, you won't. You won't. You won't.
Please reconsider what you are doing and talk to someone who can help.0 -
No, I do it with a rubber strip that stretches out like elastic. There's probably a name for it. I use it to do bicep curls while I squat.
Not when I worked there. Ok, it wasn't 0 hour contracts, but you were expected to work 40 hours while contracted for 32.That being said, they do treat their staff well. My dorm mate works there.
Then they'd try and cut back hours where possible. So you had to work longer if they needed you, but you got less holiday pay and often worked shorter shifts - for those with a good bit to travel, it could make quite a difference.
Then there was the manager (who was supposed to be friends with the district manager) who got pushed so far she had a mental breakdown.
That they encourage quick close-downs to save pay, then expect the rubbish and dried milk to magically disappear over night.
That they're quite happy for you to have more responsibility - but to get properly recognised for that... another thing.
Of course 'YMMV' with area.
Anyway... when you say you're doing squats, is this with weight?
Again, my normal suggestions apply:
A routine like starting strength/strong lifts NROLW.
1g/lb of body weight protein.
Seeing that you mention morning running elsewhere, a lot of what you mention sounds like it's quite likely to lead to muscle as well as fat loss.0
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