Was this rude because the guy sure thought it was
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My way would have been like this:
You Done there Beast Mode ?
Then rack those plates SUCKAAA!!!!
Now, bow to your sensei in the Iron Dojo !!0 -
I think you were totally appropriate and considerate in the way you approached the situation. His snide remark about a "please" is just his way of jabbing back at you. You were right. He was wrong. He needed to be right again so he made the "please" comment. Just people being small, that's all.0
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How about "would you mind taking the weights off because I find them too heavy to lift?" - then he can feel like he's helping someone out and maybe understand the rules, rather than being scolded by his mum.
Thing is I could have lifted them-not squatted it, but lifted the plates off -yeh.I just didn't think it right that I should take off his weights when there is a sign right in front of his nose telling him too. Nor should I have to 'big-up' his ego by making him think he's helping a weakling when I'm not one. This also completely contradicts most of my reasons for lifting at the gym in the first place. I lift to empower myself, not some man at the gym.0 -
My way would have been like this:
You Done there Beast Mode ?
Then rack those plates SUCKAAA!!!!
Now, bow to your sensei in the Iron Dojo !!
:laugh:
Would have loved to have seen his face !!!0 -
Nah, you're good. I wonder if he leaves dirty dishes in the sink "because someone might want to use them later." That's a ridiculous excuse.0
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He was feeling in the wrong and trying to make himself feel a little better by trying to find something you'd done wrong.
But in fact you did nothing wrong.
The word please, though nice, is not necessary for polite discourse. I would rather have someone say in a nice tone of voice, "Would you pass me the Greek yogurt" than snarl a "Pass the yogurt, please." Polite asking is polite asking.
not to mention that you didn't exactly owe the guy a bunch of politeness for his being thoughtless and rude. But better not to fall to his level.0 -
He had no problem being rude but becomes ulta-sensitive when he didn't get a" please" --- what a wimp. He should have apologized to you. That's why I lift at home- the rudeness is rampant-too many self absorbed people who care little or nothing about those around them. It's even worse when people sweat all over the equipment and don't even bother to wipe it down. Working out at home spares me the high blood pressure and aggravation. ---0
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Nah, you're good. I wonder if he leaves dirty dishes in the sink "because someone might want to use them later." That's a ridiculous excuse.
Doesn't actually sound too unreasonable like that .Thing is I could have lifted them-not squatted it, but lifted the plates off
I've never understood why people get so worked up about it.
I've been moaned at for leaving plates on before because they were too heavy... but then it's my own setup which my friend was using for free - I just suggested she obviously DID need to improve her functional strength and should practice by taking the plates off .
From your original post:it's not very nice for someone else to come too if that's not a weight they can't use0 -
I can't stand people that don't re-rack. I'm not here to pick up after people. And yes I am rude about it when I tell them.0
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I don't think it's rude...BUT I would have probably not mentioned the sign being on the wall. I would have probably just said, "hey, can you take the plates off?" "Why?" "Because I want to use this machine, and I can't squat that weight." He probably would have just rolled his eyes instead of smarting-off.0
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HA, you must be from a different country, cuz I would have just said "WHAT, can you NOT READ?!" and pointed to the sign.
But I'm from Boston...0 -
For a lot of people, 25kg each side is a base weight - would expect most males a little serious about their squats who do a warm up would be starting around that (and maybe women a bit more into it) - so I suspect if it's purely used for squatting, on average you're making it less convenient not more by getting this sign up and forcing people to remove weights. For MORE people the bar is not a weight they would use, but you're happy with that when it's for others, it seems.
155 lbs is a good warmup for people serious about squats?0 -
You did nothing wrong OP, people should be racking their weights. If this happened at my gym and the bar was racked on one of the higher slots I would not be able to unload because I am just not tall enough. While I can lift that weight I would have a difficult time lifting it over my head in front of me.0
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For a lot of people, 25kg each side is a base weight - would expect most males a little serious about their squats who do a warm up would be starting around that (and maybe women a bit more into it) - so I suspect if it's purely used for squatting, on average you're making it less convenient not more by getting this sign up and forcing people to remove weights. For MORE people the bar is not a weight they would use, but you're happy with that when it's for others, it seems.
Actually, I'd say most people start with a quick warm-up set of the bar or only slightly heavier. This is generally recognized as best practice to prevent injury.0 -
I think you handled it fine. Maybe he was having a bad day and needed to lash out a little. I'd assume his tone had nothing to do with you directly.0
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Your joking right? 70kg a base weight / warm up weight for the majority of people? And we only have one squat rack in our gym so it's used for deadlifts, overhead presses and even the odd bicep curl or two (why????) so no, it's not making it more inconvenient!0
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...but I didn't think I was rude, or in the wrong for that matter!!!
Nah, you're fine. There's just something about free weights that in some males drastically increases the production of *kitten*-mone.
EDIT: I squat 300+, and always start with an empty bar.0 -
Nope. This is totally fine. You shouldn't have even had to ASK him in the first place since there is a huge sign saying to do so! I would have done the exact same thing as you as this is something that can happen often at my gym. I always will remember an elderly gentleman having a go at using some of the machines and weights and the poor thing had no chance at taking off a huge weight, i had to help him take them off the poor thing. So not only am I thinking about women (like myself originally) who may need a less weight, I always think back to the poor 80 (or so) year old man who could have got a serious injury.
Xx All good, well done. These douches need a good reminder x0 -
For a lot of people, 25kg each side is a base weight - would expect most males a little serious about their squats who do a warm up would be starting around that (and maybe women a bit more into it) - so I suspect if it's purely used for squatting, on average you're making it less convenient not more by getting this sign up and forcing people to remove weights. For MORE people the bar is not a weight they would use, but you're happy with that when it's for others, it seems.
Actually, I'd say most people start with a quick warm-up set of the bar or only slightly heavier. This is generally recognized as best practice to prevent injury.
This is NOT what this forum question is about... back to the point now guys.. .0 -
I think he was just ashamed at being asked to do the right thing & be a courteous gym member. Yeah, you could have said "please," but you also thanked him more than once and didn't seem to be a brat about it. His pride is probably a little injured, I don't think you were in the wrong nor do I think you were rude.
ETA: You shouldn't have even needed to ask him, sign on the wall or no sign on the wall. I think you could have said more and been more upfront with him about his inconsiderate behavior and still have come off as anything but rude. I say don't sweat it & don't let him or any of his gym buddies give you any crap about it if you run into him again, either!0
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