Sugar

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  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    If EVERYTHING that made us feel good was considered "addicting", then why aren't people just watching babies laugh, a child smiling after chemo, a belch or burp after a good meal, etc. and have people saying that their are "addicted" to those since they stimulate and bring on a "feel good" response?

    Sugar TASTES good. So does fat. So does salty. Combine those 3 in a food that's high calorie......................

    There's nothing wrong with wanting to eat good tasting food. The problem is that lots people have no discipline or self control to stop eating more than they should.

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    Why would a baby having chemo make you feel good??
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    We need food to live, we don't need drugs or alcohol. Food addiction is becoming an excuse, you will always need to consume food. Therefore, you're going to HAVE to develop some form of self-control and self-regulate intake. Food man, you can't escape it

    Unless...photosynthesis. Plants know where it's at.
    But photosynthesis makes sugar! Plants are the source of all of this evil!

    I am then the queen of all evil, for I save my plants from the zombies on my lawn.

    I see what you did there. +1
  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
    If you can go cold turkey for a week or two, most fruits taste as sweet as candy did.

    Sadly, there's no magic pill for the will power.

    Don't buy it and you won't eat it. That's all I got.
    But fruit has sugar, why keep feeding the addiction

    I hear what you're saying, but they're different kinds of sugar. Fruit has tons of nutrients while candy has none.

    Right but I think the point is that sugar is sugar. I love fruit, don't get me wrong. If I need the fiber or the vitamins, I turn to fruit. If I want a snickers (Hey there's nuts in there!), I'll eat that. But to eliminate the candy bar in favor of the fruit purely because of the sugar to me is pointless.

    I eat candy too. Eating fruit instead of sugar for awhile was a suggestion to the lady who created this thread. She said she had an addiction to sugar. I assumed she meant candy. Fruit only for awhile would be a good starting point for getting over a candy addiction.
  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    If you can go cold turkey for a week or two, most fruits taste as sweet as candy did.

    Sadly, there's no magic pill for the will power.

    Don't buy it and you won't eat it. That's all I got.
    But fruit has sugar, why keep feeding the addiction

    I hear what you're saying, but they're different kinds of sugar. Fruit has tons of nutrients while candy has none.

    Right but I think the point is that sugar is sugar. I love fruit, don't get me wrong. If I need the fiber or the vitamins, I turn to fruit. If I want a snickers (Hey there's nuts in there!), I'll eat that. But to eliminate the candy bar in favor of the fruit purely because of the sugar to me is pointless.

    Eating fruit instead of sugar

    This is where I'm getting confused because fruit is sugar.
  • jeridith
    jeridith Posts: 67 Member
    Fruit contains sugar.
    Candy contains sugar.
    Donuts contain sugar.
    Those little packages of sugar contain sugar.

    All the sugar in all those different packages is chemically identical. The packaging, however, is not identical.

    Now to the OP, I had/have a HUGE sweet tooth, and have been known to eat an entire family sized package of cookies in one sitting (cookies being my greatest weakness). I also used to have 4 teaspoons of sugar in every cup of coffee. I have gradually weaned myself off the sugar in my coffee, but I'm pretty confident that if I bought a family sized package of cookies, I may very well eat them all. So I don't buy them. I do still have sweets in moderation, but have to be really, really diligent to measure and log every bite, and not become complacent. I also make sure that the sweet in question is scrumptious enough to warren the calories it's going to cost me! I doubt today I'd waste 300 calories for a mediocre chain food donut.

    The sugar though is not to blame, it is after all only a chemical compound, my lack of moderating ability is to blame, and I must do those things necessary to keep myself from binging (like not buying cookies!). If you find you cannot eat a certain food item in moderation, then by all means get rid of it! You may find that at a later date you'll be able to once again enjoy it in moderation.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    The question I would ask op, do you perceive that you are addicted to sugar or hyperpalatable foods? What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    The question I would ask op, do you perceive that you are addicted to sugar or hyperpalatable foods? What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    So OP on your thread you said

    'I have a huge huge addiction to sugar. Anyone else have this problem or had it and can give advice on how to fix it. I will admit I am addicted to it and as hard as i try i cannot seem to get over it.'

    Good news I have a solution:

    What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    I hope that has dealt with your issue - after all we are all here to be supportive :smile:
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,261 Member
    When people start licking the counter where that crispy Krispy Kreme was lying I'd say it's more than likely the combination of sugary, fatty, salty, carby foods that people can't seem to resist and not just sugar. It's very popular, and tasty.
  • Kimmers411
    Kimmers411 Posts: 44 Member
    I call Mt. Dew my "liquid heroin" and Oreos are "cookie crack". I cannot drink just one Dew. If I have it in my house, I will drink three or four a day, which leads to more candy, cookies, SUGAR! And then I gain on average .5-1 pound every week.

    For me, if my sugar consumption gets out of control, what works for me is to do two weeks of Phase One of South Beach. You cut out all refined/processed foods/grains. You do not eat any fruit or starchy veggies. Lean meats, low fat dairy, beans, lots of green veggies, nuts, healthy oils (like olive oil) are all good. It is really hard to stick to it, but it's only 14 days. At the end of it, my cravings are gone. I appreciate fruits a LOT (I will normally not eat many fruits and veggies if I am eating a lot of sugar). And I add in whole grains- brown rice, 100% whole wheat breads and pastas.

    I started over with this the end of January. I am now to the point where I can have some small sugar treats and some processed foods, but I have to be very careful not to eat too many, and I have to stay away from a few "trigger foods/drinks" (mostly sugary drinks).

    I am not an advocate of eating low carb all of the time, because like many say, cutting out whole food groups are hard to sustain in the long run. And I believe there are health benefits to good complex carbs. However, forgoing those carbs for a short period of time to get my blood sugar levels normalized is the only way I have found to end the sugar binging cycle.

    And then I keep as much of the crap food out of my house as possible. I try to get cookies/treats that my family likes but which are not tempting to me. And it is also important to look at the reasons why we eat those foods. For me, I am an emotional eater. If I am stressed or upset or depressed, I want to eat the junk- ALL THE TIME. And then I let my life take control of me. But if I take control of my life, and my eating, and recognize why I want to eat.... then it becomes easier to say no to the junk.
  • data3567
    data3567 Posts: 21
    We need food to live, we don't need drugs or alcohol. Food addiction is becoming an excuse, you will always need to consume food. Therefore, you're going to HAVE to develop some form of self-control and self-regulate intake. Food man, you can't escape it

    Ummmm..... Not giving up my glass of wine with dinner! Ha ha
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    The question I would ask op, do you perceive that you are addicted to sugar or hyperpalatable foods? What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    So OP on your thread you said

    'I have a huge huge addiction to sugar. Anyone else have this problem or had it and can give advice on how to fix it. I will admit I am addicted to it and as hard as i try i cannot seem to get over it.'

    Good news I have a solution:

    What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    I hope that has dealt with your issue - after all we are all here to be supportive :smile:

    Thanks, but I am looking for specificity... which types of food... not just sugar which covers a very broad spectrum of foods.
  • binkytoes
    binkytoes Posts: 1 Member
    Hi, go two weeks without sugar and see how it affects your cravings. It's something you have to try for yourself. Check out low-carb blogs for recipes & tips. My #1 tip: eat whole foods. I decided to start eating lower-carb because I never want to be forced by health issues to do it. It's a different mindset when you choose it. Best of luck!
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    In for sugar vs sugar .
    In as well.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    The question I would ask op, do you perceive that you are addicted to sugar or hyperpalatable foods? What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    So OP on your thread you said

    'I have a huge huge addiction to sugar. Anyone else have this problem or had it and can give advice on how to fix it. I will admit I am addicted to it and as hard as i try i cannot seem to get over it.'

    Good news I have a solution:

    What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    I hope that has dealt with your issue - after all we are all here to be supportive :smile:

    Thanks, but I am looking for specificity... which types of food... not just sugar which covers a very broad spectrum of foods.

    sorry my misunderstanding - I clearly misinterpreted - 'because whatever they are just stop eating them'! .

    I thought you meant whatever food your eating you can just stop eating them - my mistake.

    You obviously meant something else.
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,431 MFP Moderator
    The question I would ask op, do you perceive that you are addicted to sugar or hyperpalatable foods? What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    So OP on your thread you said

    'I have a huge huge addiction to sugar. Anyone else have this problem or had it and can give advice on how to fix it. I will admit I am addicted to it and as hard as i try i cannot seem to get over it.'

    Good news I have a solution:

    What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    I hope that has dealt with your issue - after all we are all here to be supportive :smile:

    Thanks, but I am looking for specificity... which types of food... not just sugar which covers a very broad spectrum of foods.

    sorry my misunderstanding - I clearly misinterpreted - 'because whatever they are just stop eating them'! .

    I thought you meant whatever food your eating you can just stop eating them - my mistake.

    You obviously meant something else.

    Yep, I was meaning is she binging on donuts, chips, cookies, fruit, dairy etc...?
  • stumblinthrulife
    stumblinthrulife Posts: 2,558 Member
    Empty the house of all sugary foods. Lock the doors.
    Introduce a donut soaked in hobo urine.
    Do you eat the donut? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    Imagine yourself completely destitute.
    You are getting just enough food via a food kitchen.
    Someone offers you a snickers bar if you have sex with him in an alley, would you do it? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    You've reached the end of your paycheck.
    Your bills are paid, you have enough regular food in the kitchen to survive until next pay day, but you'd like a donut.
    You notice your friend's purse/wallet on the coffee table, with a 5 half out. Your friend isn't looking. Do you take it to buy donuts? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    The question I would ask op, do you perceive that you are addicted to sugar or hyperpalatable foods? What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    So OP on your thread you said

    'I have a huge huge addiction to sugar. Anyone else have this problem or had it and can give advice on how to fix it. I will admit I am addicted to it and as hard as i try i cannot seem to get over it.'

    Good news I have a solution:

    What kinds of foods are you binging on? Because whatever they are, just stop eating them.

    I hope that has dealt with your issue - after all we are all here to be supportive :smile:

    Thanks, but I am looking for specificity... which types of food... not just sugar which covers a very broad spectrum of foods.

    sorry my misunderstanding - I clearly misinterpreted - 'because whatever they are just stop eating them'! .

    I thought you meant whatever food your eating you can just stop eating them - my mistake.

    You obviously meant something else.

    Yep, I was meaning is she binging on donuts, chips, cookies, fruit, dairy etc...?

    Which of course she can just stop eating!! I see - sorry for the confusion
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Empty the house of all sugary foods. Lock the doors.
    Introduce a donut soaked in hobo urine.
    Do you eat the donut? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    Imagine yourself completely destitute.
    You are getting just enough food via a food kitchen.
    Someone offers you a snickers bar if you have sex with him in an alley, would you do it? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    You've reached the end of your paycheck.
    Your bills are paid, you have enough regular food in the kitchen to survive until next pay day, but you'd like a donut.
    You notice your friend's purse/wallet on the coffee table, with a 5 half out. Your friend isn't looking. Do you take it to buy donuts? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    I'm sorry but do you actually know what the definition of addiction is?
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  • stumblinthrulife
    stumblinthrulife Posts: 2,558 Member
    Empty the house of all sugary foods. Lock the doors.
    Introduce a donut soaked in hobo urine.
    Do you eat the donut? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    Imagine yourself completely destitute.
    You are getting just enough food via a food kitchen.
    Someone offers you a snickers bar if you have sex with him in an alley, would you do it? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    You've reached the end of your paycheck.
    Your bills are paid, you have enough regular food in the kitchen to survive until next pay day, but you'd like a donut.
    You notice your friend's purse/wallet on the coffee table, with a 5 half out. Your friend isn't looking. Do you take it to buy donuts? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    I'm sorry but do you actually know what the definition of addiction is?

    It certainly doesn't mean "that tastes good, I think I'll have another".
  • CatBird128
    CatBird128 Posts: 14 Member
    I've always found it's a four day thing to break sugar. On the fourth day your body is going nuts telling you to eat whatever you've got. But on the fifth day - it's totally easy. That's the thing - people cut out sugar and get through three days thinking they've licked it, and the fourth day kills you.

    So PLAN on the fourth day to be the worst. When you cut out the sugar, get rid of all of it in your house - for god's sake don't keep a beer in the fridge. And if you can't get a week's worth of help from those whom you live with - at least ask for that one day - the fourth day, for them to stash their treats out of sight. It's only one day after all.

    If you start this on a Monday, you will have passed the fourth day by the following weekend, if you find that on weekends you get tempted by the change in schedule. Don't do the fourth day on a stress day or a vacation, unless you think that would work best for you. If you don't find time to eat much on crazy stress days, then maybe planning that as the fourth day is what will work.

    After that you'll find your body has quieted down and will listen to reason and you can plan on small sugary rewards every now and then. AND if you find yourself sliding back into sugar every day, remember the four day process and kick into it again.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    in…because here we go again …

    my predictions..

    Someone will claim sugar is addictive as heroin
    someone will post studies referring to rodents
    someone will claim to have quit sugar, but still eat fruit
    someone will claim fruit sugar is superior to added sugar
    a genearl dumpster fire will break out …
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Empty the house of all sugary foods. Lock the doors.
    Introduce a donut soaked in hobo urine.
    Do you eat the donut? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    Imagine yourself completely destitute.
    You are getting just enough food via a food kitchen.
    Someone offers you a snickers bar if you have sex with him in an alley, would you do it? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    You've reached the end of your paycheck.
    Your bills are paid, you have enough regular food in the kitchen to survive until next pay day, but you'd like a donut.
    You notice your friend's purse/wallet on the coffee table, with a 5 half out. Your friend isn't looking. Do you take it to buy donuts? If no, congratulations, you are not addicted to sugar.

    I'm sorry but do you actually know what the definition of addiction is?

    It certainly doesn't mean "that tastes good, I think I'll have another".

    Speechless - - nope I was going to make some witty retort but I am still utterly speechless!!!!!!!!!!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    There are drug addicts out there and other addicts that get judged. BUt there are things out there that are just as addictive and dangerous to a persons body. through this journey I have come to realize one major thing. I have a huge huge addiction to sugar. Anyone else have this problem or had it and can give advice on how to fix it. I will admit I am addicted to it and as hard as i try i cannot seem to get over it.

    There are a lot of people on here that will try to disprove that there is such a thing as sugar addiction. Will tell you all sugars are the same, they are not, there is a difference in monosaccharides and disaccharides (for joy, some new stuff for all you people to google).

    And addiction is an obsession of the mind...period. Most alcoholics are not physically addicted to alcohol. Gambling and sex addicts the same. It has to do with the reward system in the brain as well as with an obsession.

    If you feel that once you start eating a disaccharide that you can not stop with one portion, you should cut it out of your life. Simple as that.

    If you can not eat it in moderation, dont eat it at all, no matter how many people try to bully you into feeling shame for not being able to do it.

    so when alcoholics quite drinking they do not detox?
  • vjohn04
    vjohn04 Posts: 2,276 Member
    please... I beg anyone and everyone. Make these stop. I can't bear this argument any more.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    in…because here we go again …

    my predictions..

    Someone will claim sugar is addictive as heroin
    someone will post studies referring to rodents
    someone will claim to have quit sugar, but still eat fruit
    someone will claim fruit sugar is superior to added sugar
    a genearl dumpster fire will break out …

    :drinker:
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    If you can go cold turkey for a week or two, most fruits taste as sweet as candy did.

    Sadly, there's no magic pill for the will power.

    Don't buy it and you won't eat it. That's all I got.
    But fruit has sugar, why keep feeding the addiction

    I hear what you're saying, but they're different kinds of sugar. Fruit has tons of nutrients while candy has none.

    Right but I think the point is that sugar is sugar. I love fruit, don't get me wrong. If I need the fiber or the vitamins, I turn to fruit. If I want a snickers (Hey there's nuts in there!), I'll eat that. But to eliminate the candy bar in favor of the fruit purely because of the sugar to me is pointless.

    I eat candy too. Eating fruit instead of sugar for awhile was a suggestion to the lady who created this thread. She said she had an addiction to sugar. I assumed she meant candy. Fruit only for awhile would be a good starting point for getting over a candy addiction.
    so a sugar addict should eat more sugar????

    that is like saying a crack head should snort more cocaine...
  • ghostsnstuff
    ghostsnstuff Posts: 51 Member
    in…because here we go again …

    my predictions..

    Someone will claim sugar is addictive as heroin
    someone will post studies referring to rodents
    someone will claim to have quit sugar, but still eat fruit
    someone will claim fruit sugar is superior to added sugar
    a genearl dumpster fire will break out …

    :drinker:
    I second that.
  • Wtn_Gurl
    Wtn_Gurl Posts: 396 Member
    Where do we draw the line between personal responsibility and making diagnosis of things that seem like the perfect excuse to not adhere to our diets?

    Knowing our limitations and cravings for things lets us know what we need to deal with. We can choose to either be a victim or we can choose to recognize it, and do something about it,, and what to avoid.

    Some one will have better changes of changing something by not letting it have power over me. If i know that a candy bar will harm me in some way, i know to stay away from it. i am aware if i can have it or not. i know what happens when i dont eat it.. and i know that if i take a few days and choose not to eat it, that food becomes less important.

    I do believe in taking personal responsibility for making changes, i do believe people can have habits and addictions and guilty pleasures, i do believe that is not a "disease" (like cancer) where we are helpless to defeat it, i do believe we choose to put the food in our mouth that makes us fat, while i know that we can change it, however, some people have strong cravings for something, and they need more strength and determination and fortitude to be able to say no.

    thats what i beleive and that is what is helping me be successful in my weight loss here.
  • Serah87
    Serah87 Posts: 5,481 Member
    That's the problem with this country/world, it's everyone else's/things fault and not themselves!!!


    ETA: We all got fat because WE ate to much!! It's not sugar, carbs and fats fault, it's OUR FAULT!!!!!!!!