My meeting with a Sports Nutritionist
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Great information .. Thanks for posting it.
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How in hells name do people regain all the weight if they lose more than 1 lb per week?? It hasn't got anything to do with how quick they lost it, it has to do with whether they then went and stuffed their faces with food. And, breakfast, apart from giving you some fuel to start the day, wont make you fat if you miss it. What total and utter sh&t. And dont start me on the ovulation rubbish. I linked this to my sister-in-law who is a gyno and her reply was.......hahahaha!!!0
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- people who KEEP weight off do the following: eat breakfast, don't allow themselves to get overly hungry, eat everything in moderation, exercise, weigh themselves regularly and keep a food journal.
:laugh:
I've been significantly underweight all my adult life (I'm 50 now) and I haven't eaten breakfast since I was about 11 or so. In fact, on a normal weekend day, I don't eat until the supper meal... too busy.
I've done no regular exercise until recently when I started experiencing menopause symptoms three years ago and became concerned about loss of muscle and bone density.
Nor have I adhered to any of the other aspects of the guru's "prescription".
With all due respect, I don't think the guidance applies to you. I think it's more for people who have had (over)weight issues and learn to manage them with new habits.0 -
I experimented a bit when I started to make it a goal to lose weight. Eating breakfast really just made me hungrier throughout the day as someone who rarely ate breakfast before. Skipping breakfast and focusing on the other two meals worked a lot better.
As far as not eating a larger dinner, honestly it hasn't mattered for me. Sometimes I will blow almost all my calories (with the exception of protein calories) at dinner. Still, with my predefined deficit I lose almost exactly what I'm supposed to, sometimes more.
In terms of hunger, what's worked best has been focusing on other things throughout the day or picking meals I'm excited about. Eating 3 tiny meals a day (or more) makes life grueling. Have 1-2 meals I actually want to eat has been more helpful.
ymmv, but this has been what's working for me.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.0 -
My thoughts exactly.I am skeptical of a few of her points...
Like 97% will regain
Must eat breakfast
Need more calories when ovulating
weight themselves regularly then says don't if you are a weight lifter...
eating specific things after a workout...
last but not least only eat when you are hungry even if you have calories to fill...hunger is not the best way to tell what the body needs.
Some are fine tho like eating the same on a rest day as an exercise day, not using the scale only but measurments etc...and yes you can build muslce if you are NEW to lifting...or obese.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
THIS RIGHT HERE! Couldn't have said it better myself.0 -
LOL I would like to see scientific evidence that woman need extra calories when they release a microscopic egg during ovulation. The rest of this is common sense. Hope you didn't pay too much money for this "consultation".
Well, she is a scientist and nutritionist who trained at Mass General, so I do think she is basing this on research, darlin'.....just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Yeah, sorry. Call people pet names as a way to denigrate and belittle them all you want, but your sports nutritionist is still terribly misinformed.0 -
WOW. There sure is a lot of negativity. I appreciate the time you took to post this information. It's a shame that some people want to bash what you said. If the info is not applicable to you...move on. This is supposed to be a supportive group. Thanks for sharing. Maybe not all of it will be applicable to me but some is. Thanks!0
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Egads. Some truly awful advice.
*ahem*
Whoops, typo. What I meant to say is...
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WOW. There sure is a lot of negativity. I appreciate the time you took to post this information. It's a shame that some people want to bash what you said. If the info is not applicable to you...move on. This is supposed to be a supportive group. Thanks for sharing. Maybe not all of it will be applicable to me but some is. Thanks!
Much of the info is categorically wrong. Such false "information" should be bashed.0 -
I am planning on losing weight by spending all my time logging food and exercise at myfitnespal.com.
It keeps my hands busy and away from food.
It also taught me that you have to run 3 miles to burn off a good cookie. I've never eaten a cookie THAT good.0 -
Yet another "expert" worth ignoring0
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Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.0 -
Nancy Clark, MS, RD, CSSD ( http://www.nancyclarkrd.com/about/)
Nancy Clark, MS, RD
Nancy Clark, MS, RD, CSSD is an internationally respected sports nutritionist, weight coach, nutrition author, and workshop leader. She is a registered dietitian (RD) who specializes in nutrition for exercise, health, and the nutritional management of eating disorders. She is board certified as a specialist in sports dietietics (CSSD) and a certified WellCoach.
Nancy's private practice is located in Newton Highlands, MA, easily accessible from Route 9 and the MBTA Green Line "D". She offers one-on-one nutrition consultations to both fitness exercisers and competitive athletes, coaching them on strategies to eat wisely, enhance energy, optimize performance, and manage weight.
Her more renowned clients that have relied on her expertise in diet for sports conditioning to gain a competitive edge have included members of: Boston Red Sox, Boston Celtics, Boston Breakers, Boston College, and many collegiate, elite and Olympic athletes from a variety of sports.
Previously, she was Director of Nutrition Services at Sports Medicine Associates in Brookline, MA, and then from 2005 to 2011, counseled her clients at Healthworks in Chestnut Hill.
Nancy completed her undergraduate degree in nutrition from Simmons College in Boston, her dietetic internship at Massachusetts General Hospital, and her graduate degree in nutrition with a focus on exercise physiology from Boston University.
She is a Fellow of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (formerly the American Dietetic Association), the recipient of their Media Excellence Award, an active member of the Academy's practice group of sports nutritionists (SCAN), and recipient of SCAN's Honor Award for Excellence in Practice. Nancy is also a Fellow in the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) and recipient of the Honor Award from ACSM's New England Chapter.
Nancy's contributions to runners in the Boston area culminated in her receiving the Will Cloney Award. Nancy also holds the honor of having her photo and advice on the back of the Wheaties box for their 2004 Olympic series. She is a member of the Mizuno Advisory Staff.
Clark is the nutrition columnist for New England Runner, Rowing, and American Fitness . She is a frequent contributor to Runner's World and has been on the advisory board for SHAPE magazine. Clark also writes a monthly nutrition column called The Athlete's Kitchen, which appears regularly in over 150 sports and health publications and websites, including Active.com and MomsTeam.com.
Nancy is the author of the best selling sports nutrition reference Nancy Clark's Sports Nutrition Guidebook. Over 500,000 copies of this classic book have been enjoyed by health professionals and exercise enthusiasts alike. Her Food Guide for Marathoners: Tips for Everyday Champions and Food Guide for New Runners: Getting It Right From the Start help novice runners and walkers go the distance with energy to spare. And her Cyclist's Food Guide: Fueling for the Distance (co-authored with Jenny Hegmann, MS, RD) helps both beginning and experienced cyclists optimize their performance. Food Guide for Soccer: Tips and Recipes from the Pros, co-authored with Gloria Averbuch in conjunction with Women's Professional Soccer, helps soccer athletes have the winning edge.
Sports and nutrition are personal as well as professional interests. A former member of The Greater Boston Track Club, Clark has competed at the 10 Kilometer, half marathon, and marathon distances. Clark routinely bike commutes and enjoys bike touring. She has led many extended bike tours, including a Transamerica Trip and other tours through the Canadian and Colorado Rockies. She has trekked into the Himalayas and planned the high altitude menu for a successful expedition. Her newest sports are rowing (crew) and yoga. She and her husband, son and daughter live in the Boston area.
Here's what a coach had to say after listening to Nancy speak at a clinic:
"I had never heard of Ms. Clark before her presentation. I left with not only a deep respect for who she is and what she does, but I also left understanding the part nutrition plays in the end result of all athletic events. If studies prove that the timing of the carbohydrate intake directly impacts the level of energy an athlete can carry into the late stages of an athletic contest, then you must believe that proper nutrition absolutely plays a part in the overall outcome of the game.
"Ms. Clark said, 'You can only compete at your best if you can train at your best.' This is not new in terms of athletics. But where Clark is concerned, she is not just talking about training and conditioning but also the eating habits that surround the training.
"I purchased a copy of her Sports Nutrition Guidebook and I could have listened to her for days."0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.
Oh dear.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.
Then by all means. Show me the science.
That's all you have to do. If you can show me research papers with proper methodology that show that there is a DIRECT benefit between eating breakfast and having a small dinner compared to not eating breakfast and eating a large dinner, calories being equal, then I will concede.0 -
And in the meantime we will call IF "magic". :laugh:0
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LOL I would like to see scientific evidence that woman need extra calories when they release a microscopic egg during ovulation. The rest of this is common sense. Hope you didn't pay too much money for this "consultation".
Well, she is a scientist and nutritionist who trained at Mass General, so I do think she is basing this on research, darlin'.....just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Yeah, sorry. Call people pet names as a way to denigrate and belittle them all you want, but your sports nutritionist is still terribly misinformed.
I don't care about people being snarky and negative. I just think it is funny that all the folks who are negative have nothing of substance to say about the advice other than "she's wrong". Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. Defend your position intelligently and I'll be glad to listen. Otherwise, it's just background noise to me.0 -
LOL I would like to see scientific evidence that woman need extra calories when they release a microscopic egg during ovulation. The rest of this is common sense. Hope you didn't pay too much money for this "consultation".
Well, she is a scientist and nutritionist who trained at Mass General, so I do think she is basing this on research, darlin'.....just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Yeah, sorry. Call people pet names as a way to denigrate and belittle them all you want, but your sports nutritionist is still terribly misinformed.
I don't care about people being snarky and negative. I just think it is funny that all the folks who are negative have nothing of substance to say about the advice other than "she's wrong". Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. Defend your position intelligently and I'll be glad to listen. Otherwise, it's just background noise to me.
Well, she is wrong.
The collective 30,000 or so posts of the people who are calling out this bad information have a lot more to say than your bulleted list of misleading crap.
I am happy to defend my position intelligently, with science and evidence. Problem is that you can't do the same. "This really smart person says so" is not intelligent debate.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.
Then by all means. Show me the science.
That's all you have to do. If you can show me research papers with proper methodology that show that there is a DIRECT benefit between eating breakfast and having a small dinner compared to not eating breakfast and eating a large dinner, calories being equal, then I will concede.
Here ya go....
In dieting, like comedy, timing is everything. That’s the conclusion of a new Spanish study that suggests that when you eat might be just as important as what you eat.
During the first few weeks of the 20-week study, run by researchers from Brigham and Women’s Hospital in collaboration with Tufts University and the University of Murcia, all 420 subjects lost weight at about the same rate. But starting around week five, weight loss for dieters who ate their main meal after 3 p.m. began to stall and remained sluggish for the duration of the study. In the end, they lost 22 percent less weight than dieters who ate the bulk of their calories earlier in the day.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.
Then by all means. Show me the science.
That's all you have to do. If you can show me research papers with proper methodology that show that there is a DIRECT benefit between eating breakfast and having a small dinner compared to not eating breakfast and eating a large dinner, calories being equal, then I will concede.
Here ya go....
In dieting, like comedy, timing is everything. That’s the conclusion of a new Spanish study that suggests that when you eat might be just as important as what you eat.
During the first few weeks of the 20-week study, run by researchers from Brigham and Women’s Hospital in collaboration with Tufts University and the University of Murcia, all 420 subjects lost weight at about the same rate. But starting around week five, weight loss for dieters who ate their main meal after 3 p.m. began to stall and remained sluggish for the duration of the study. In the end, they lost 22 percent less weight than dieters who ate the bulk of their calories earlier in the day.
Link to the actual study.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.
Then by all means. Show me the science.
That's all you have to do. If you can show me research papers with proper methodology that show that there is a DIRECT benefit between eating breakfast and having a small dinner compared to not eating breakfast and eating a large dinner, calories being equal, then I will concede.
Here ya go....
In dieting, like comedy, timing is everything. That’s the conclusion of a new Spanish study that suggests that when you eat might be just as important as what you eat.
During the first few weeks of the 20-week study, run by researchers from Brigham and Women’s Hospital in collaboration with Tufts University and the University of Murcia, all 420 subjects lost weight at about the same rate. But starting around week five, weight loss for dieters who ate their main meal after 3 p.m. began to stall and remained sluggish for the duration of the study. In the end, they lost 22 percent less weight than dieters who ate the bulk of their calories earlier in the day.
Reading popular mass media "health" articles about scientific studies is not the same thing as reading a scientific study.
Go find the original study and read that. Come back and tell us what you think of the ABC News article. Be critical of the study.0 -
Your nutritionist is pulling numbers from stats in some cases rather than established science.
Breakfast isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat breakfast.
Eating a small dinner isn't necessary to lose weight. Just the people who have successfully lost weight tend to eat small dinners.
These are correlations, not actual causes.
That's simply not true, but if it makes you feel better to believe she's not using science, I'm sure there is nothing I could say to convince you otherwise. :bigsmile:
There are plenty of ways to lose weight and nowhere in my post did I say you could only lose weight with the tips she gave me. Nowhere. She gave me scientifically sound guidelines that tend to work and be sustainable for most people - based on research. But if you want to lose weight eating just Twinkies, I'm sure it can be done. Will most people fail to sustain that type of weightloss? Yup.
Then by all means. Show me the science.
That's all you have to do. If you can show me research papers with proper methodology that show that there is a DIRECT benefit between eating breakfast and having a small dinner compared to not eating breakfast and eating a large dinner, calories being equal, then I will concede.
Here ya go....
In dieting, like comedy, timing is everything. That’s the conclusion of a new Spanish study that suggests that when you eat might be just as important as what you eat.
During the first few weeks of the 20-week study, run by researchers from Brigham and Women’s Hospital in collaboration with Tufts University and the University of Murcia, all 420 subjects lost weight at about the same rate. But starting around week five, weight loss for dieters who ate their main meal after 3 p.m. began to stall and remained sluggish for the duration of the study. In the end, they lost 22 percent less weight than dieters who ate the bulk of their calories earlier in the day.
(Please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...)0 -
LOL I would like to see scientific evidence that woman need extra calories when they release a microscopic egg during ovulation. The rest of this is common sense. Hope you didn't pay too much money for this "consultation".
Well, she is a scientist and nutritionist who trained at Mass General, so I do think she is basing this on research, darlin'.....just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Yeah, sorry. Call people pet names as a way to denigrate and belittle them all you want, but your sports nutritionist is still terribly misinformed.
I don't care about people being snarky and negative. I just think it is funny that all the folks who are negative have nothing of substance to say about the advice other than "she's wrong". Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. Defend your position intelligently and I'll be glad to listen. Otherwise, it's just background noise to me.
Well, she is wrong.
The collective 30,000 or so posts of the people who are calling out this bad information have a lot more to say than your bulleted list of misleading crap.
I am happy to defend my position intelligently, with science and evidence. Problem is that you can't do the same. "This really smart person says so" is not intelligent debate.
Ummm, you are relying on 30,000 posts on MFP to refute the tips my nutritionist gave me today? You've been busy!
Seriously, don't get your panties in a twist. They are just tips, and good ones in my opinion. Don't follow them if you don't want.0 -
In dieting, like comedy, timing is everything. That’s the conclusion of a new Spanish study that suggests that when you eat might be just as important as what you eat.
During the first few weeks of the 20-week study, run by researchers from Brigham and Women’s Hospital in collaboration with Tufts University and the University of Murcia, all 420 subjects lost weight at about the same rate. But starting around week five, weight loss for dieters who ate their main meal after 3 p.m. began to stall and remained sluggish for the duration of the study. In the end, they lost 22 percent less weight than dieters who ate the bulk of their calories earlier in the day.
(Please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...)
I can't find a free copy of the full study, but from the abstract there appears to have been no attempt to even calculate caloric intake at all.0 -
Jonnythan, stop trying to get people to think for themselves! You know that never works!
Unfortunately the VAST majority of people lack the requisite level of intelligence, knowledge or initiative to do their own non-biased research.
If this was not true, there would be no market for the Dr OZ's of the world - but sadly they are thriving while the masses suckle from their marketing driven teets.0 -
Seriously, don't get your panties in a twist. They are just tips, and good ones in my opinion. Don't follow them if you don't want.
Based on your long, extensive record of success and voracious reading of original scientific articles and research, apparently.
Oh. Wait.0 -
yes...but is it worth arguing about? thanks for posting, wonderwoman0
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(Please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...please don't be subject recall to determine intake...)
What's the problem jof? People are surprisingly accurate it reporting their own caloric intake!
I'd cite specific studies but there are just too many to support my claim! See...
http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=caloric+self+reporting&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=X0giU82FCYf1kQXXl4C4CA&ved=0CCkQgQMwAA
:laugh:0
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