Bad ride--almost passed out!/2253 calories burned??

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  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    What does " I can't go over 12.5" mean?

    If it is a 12.5 average than that's pretty darn good. That is what you should look at: average speed.
    I ride an average of about 12-13 mph on these long distances. Sometimes less.

    Besides right now it really does not matter how fast you go. Build a base, go the distance, then work mon speed.

    Yes, with the long distances it makes a difference 'cause you'll ride a litle longer. So what?

    YOU W I L L GET THERE!

    Yes, I average 12.5 mph on my long rides--shorter ones of under 20 miles I can get up to 13-13.5 mph average on those. On today's ride, I averaged 11.8 mph.

    You'll probably right. But it just seems so slow! :ohwell:
  • casey34472
    casey34472 Posts: 280 Member
    Wow! Wish I had that time on my hands to do that. Well don't push your self in doing 60 miles don't think about it and I'm sure you will be able to get their.
  • jadaigle
    jadaigle Posts: 161 Member
    I hope I'm not repeated stuff that's already been posted (but I probably am): You can't drink just water. If you are exercising for more than 90 minutes, you HAVE to use an electrolyte replacement drink. I'm still trying to find the perfect one: I used powerade because it tasted good and I could but it at the supermarket but it upset my stomach so I'm trying all the other ones to see what works for me. I see you've ordered something: What product did you order?

    Also, You've got to replace other calories on such long rides. I used to eat a clif bar every 45 mintues but, again, it began to upset my stomach so now I eat a good meal (usually two slices of toast with peanut butter and banana) about an hour before I ride. Then, I eat a Gu every 45 minutes. I get hungry regularly while riding and the Gu has worked well for me. Then you have to have something as soon as you are done riding. Bagels, bananas, power bars, yogurt are all good options.

    And you can drink too much water.

    Good luck and I'm glad you realized when to stop.
  • firegirlred
    firegirlred Posts: 674 Member
    First let me say I'm glad you aren't posting from the hospital. I hope you figure out how to manage this better for your long rides. I don't know many diabetics that can ride that many miles, much less walk one or two, and I see quite a few of them. So way to go!!! Granted I don't usually see them until they are at their worst. (no one calls 911 cause they just had a great day)

    Considering that, four tabs should put you higher than the low two hundreds. It does sound like you were a little hypoglycemic. I usually estimate 50-100 points per tab. While that's a wide range, it doesn't add up to enough to equal less than 300 if you weren't hypoglycemic. Good job on catching yourself and not becoming a speedbump. (ain't nothing gonna slow someone down faster than a person lying in the middle of the road. Effective.) Please be careful.

    Have you seen "gu" ? You might carry a few with you on rides. Eat one, say, every 500 - 1000 calories you burn. Any high simple carbohydrate food combined with something a little more substantial should work. This does take some tweaking, but you should be able to break your record without feeling bad. Good luck. I look forward to hearing that you did break your record.

    Rae
  • astridfeline
    astridfeline Posts: 1,200 Member


    Plus, I think I really need to get some sugar-free sports drink of some kind. I know they make them but I can't find them in my area.

    I love the Electro-mix from Alacer corp. It's a lemon-lime sugar-free sports drink powder you mix with 1 liter of water. It works great. Shop around different web sites to get the best price. Here is a link to the product:

    http://www.emergenc.com/
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    I hope I'm not repeated stuff that's already been posted (but I probably am): You can't drink just water. If you are exercising for more than 90 minutes, you HAVE to use an electrolyte replacement drink. I'm still trying to find the perfect one: I used powerade because it tasted good and I could but it at the supermarket but it upset my stomach so I'm trying all the other ones to see what works for me. I see you've ordered something: What product did you order?

    Also, You've got to replace other calories on such long rides. I used to eat a clif bar every 45 mintues but, again, it began to upset my stomach so now I eat a good meal (usually two slices of toast with peanut butter and banana) about an hour before I ride. Then, I eat a Gu every 45 minutes. I get hungry regularly while riding and the Gu has worked well for me. Then you have to have something as soon as you are done riding. Bagels, bananas, power bars, yogurt are all good options.

    And you can drink too much water.

    Good luck and I'm glad you realized when to stop.

    I ordered some Emergen-C--I didn't realize the importance of electrolytes. That is obvious :ohwell: I didn't think I'd need it really with only a few hours on the bike--WRONG! I've got to eat more and better choices while riding, too. I've heard many use Fig Newtons or PB sandwiches or PB crackers, so thought I'd try that.
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    Have you seen "gu" ? You might carry a few with you on rides. Eat one, say, every 500 - 1000 calories you burn. Any high simple carbohydrate food combined with something a little more substantial should work. This does take some tweaking, but you should be able to break your record without feeling bad. Good luck. I look forward to hearing that you did break your record.

    Rae

    I had serious trouble the rest of that day keeping my levels up--stinks. Just ruins the whole day.

    Anyway, you're the second person to say something about this "GU"--never heard of it but am going to look into it right now!
  • jadaigle
    jadaigle Posts: 161 Member
    You should be able to find Gu at your bike store. There are many flavors and most are pretty good. In fact, the Chocolate outrage is almost like eating chocolate icing out of the container. I tend to stick withe the other flavors, like Triberry, Strawberry banana or the Lemon. If you can't find Gu, you might see Hammer gel or clif shots. I think Gu tastes the best, but some of the Hammer gels are pretty good, too.
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    You should be able to find Gu at your bike store. There are many flavors and most are pretty good. In fact, the Chocolate outrage is almost like eating chocolate icing out of the container. I tend to stick withe the other flavors, like Triberry, Strawberry banana or the Lemon. If you can't find Gu, you might see Hammer gel or clif shots. I think Gu tastes the best, but some of the Hammer gels are pretty good, too.


    Like chocolate icing? WOW! Will have to get some and see how it goes with my BG levels though--probably got lots of sugar.

    That's part of the problem right now--too many carbs spikes me, too few and I crash. And with the exercising I'm doing, it's proving darn near impossible to find a happy medium.
  • truckgrl106
    truckgrl106 Posts: 16
    Hey there,
    Glad you are ok. I rode 10 miles on Sunday in mid 70's but up and down hills ~ first time on hills have been doing the "flats" but was freakishly inspired by the Tour de France..sigh....yip, I looked freakish pushing my bike up the 10 miles hill!!! :flowerforyou:
    Anyhoo, you have my admiration for what you did..............and thank goodness for DH's!! They sure come in handy some times.:laugh:

    It is tough figuring out what your body needs and doesn't need. I know that since turning 42, my body has changed dramatically and no longer responds to anything that worked before. So am taking small steps, and trying to figure it all out.

    Take care now!
  • jlwhelan1
    jlwhelan1 Posts: 664
    I'm glad you are ok. Until the bad part the ride sounded awesome.
    You'll get there, but do it cautiously.

    Yay for you.
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    Hey there,
    Glad you are ok. I rode 10 miles on Sunday in mid 70's but up and down hills ~ first time on hills have been doing the "flats" but was freakishly inspired by the Tour de France..sigh....yip, I looked freakish pushing my bike up the 10 miles hill!!! :flowerforyou:
    Anyhoo, you have my admiration for what you did..............and thank goodness for DH's!! They sure come in handy some times.:laugh:

    It is tough figuring out what your body needs and doesn't need. I know that since turning 42, my body has changed dramatically and no longer responds to anything that worked before. So am taking small steps, and trying to figure it all out.

    Take care now!

    Yeah, the Tour inspired me too! And got me in trouble--have to remind self--"you're not a 25 year old male professional athlete so don't try to ride non-stop with minimum food and support"! :frown:
  • stschulz
    stschulz Posts: 340
    Yes, I average 12.5 mph on my long rides--shorter ones of under 20 miles I can get up to 13-13.5 mph average on those. On today's ride, I averaged 11.8 mph.

    You'll probably right. But it just seems so slow! :ohwell:

    To give you a perspective:

    The slow rides in our bicycle club are 10 - 12 mph. Next group is around 12-13. Then 15. and after that these guys are racers who train for speed.

    So.... 12 mph is plenty. Also there is a difference whether you intend to ride 30 miles or 100. With a low milage you can go full out because you know you can always drag your butt home somehow. With a long distance like 60 and more, you have to really restrain yourself and go very very slow. Average milage is no longer important, all that counts is that at the end you have enough energy left to make it.

    Maybe you can find other athletes with diabetes who can give you advise. I really hope you get to where you want to be. I am sure that 60 miles is no problem if you do everything right. Because of the diabetes it just takes a while to learn what works and what doesn't. But that is all it is: a learning process.

    I'll keep thinking of you. But PLEASE take it easy. The Seagull is in October lady, you have lots and and lots of time to get to your 60 miles! Maybe I should go there anyway and ride the 6 with you to make sure you are OK.
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    To give you a perspective:

    The slow rides in our bicycle club are 10 - 12 mph. Next group is around 12-13. Then 15. and after that these guys are racers who train for speed.

    So.... 12 mph is plenty. Also there is a difference whether you intend to ride 30 miles or 100. With a low milage you can go full out because you know you can always drag your butt home somehow. With a long distance like 60 and more, you have to really restrain yourself and go very very slow. Average milage is no longer important, all that counts is that at the end you have enough energy left to make it.

    Maybe you can find other athletes with diabetes who can give you advise. I really hope you get to where you want to be. I am sure that 60 miles is no problem if you do everything right. Because of the diabetes it just takes a while to learn what works and what doesn't. But that is all it is: a learning process.

    I'll keep thinking of you. But PLEASE take it easy. The Seagull is in October lady, you have lots and and lots of time to get to your 60 miles! Maybe I should go there anyway and ride the 6 with you to make sure you are OK.

    I've tried to find Type 2 who do long distance and there doesn't seem to be many on the web--not that I can find anyway. Lots of Type 1 but they can control easier with the insulin than I can.

    Anyway, I've come completely off my diabetes meds (doc said ok) in hopes that since I'm still having lows that I can control my levels better with just exercise and food.

    I'll be fine--it's just a learning process. And, I have always been one to push myself. I'm my own worse competitor!

    Doing the bike leg (15 miles) in a Triathlon on Sept. 27!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • MontanaGirl
    MontanaGirl Posts: 1,251 Member
    Hey Shore - it's really a matter of experimentation. You'll figure it out!! I'm just so impressed at how you ride. I did less than 5 mins last night and a whopping 10 minutes this a.m. and it almost killed me!!! LOL - you are my hero!!
  • denmother46
    denmother46 Posts: 272 Member
    Have you spoken with a sports doctor? As you said, you are not a 25 year old male ( Im 51 - so not calling YOU old - :blushing: ) and you have blood sugar issues. If you are going to exercise at that level and still have weight to lose you should probably get exact water/nutrient advice from an expert!!
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    Have you spoken with a sports doctor? As you said, you are not a 25 year old male ( Im 51 - so not calling YOU old - :blushing: ) and you have blood sugar issues. If you are going to exercise at that level and still have weight to lose you should probably get exact water/nutrient advice from an expert!!

    I work closely with my doc. There are no "sports docs" anywhere near where I live.
  • shorerider
    shorerider Posts: 3,817 Member
    Oh, and it's been 3 days with no diabetes meds and 2 days with no lows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My numbers are higher than they were a month or so ago but still well within range--in fact, they are better than they were before I started this journey and was popping 4 diabetes pills a day!

    Will have to see how they continue though and just go from that.
  • MontanaGirl
    MontanaGirl Posts: 1,251 Member
    Oh, and it's been 3 days with no diabetes meds and 2 days with no lows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My numbers are higher than they were a month or so ago but still well within range--in fact, they are better than they were before I started this journey and was popping 4 diabetes pills a day!

    Will have to see how they continue though and just go from that.

    That is awesome!!!! Yay Shoreride!!!! :drinker: :drinker:
  • stschulz
    stschulz Posts: 340
    I am really impressed Shore and very glad to see that it works for you. You got your milage up from 0 to ... what? 50? That itself is pretty darn good. Of course not good enough for you. I know. You are not going to be a second Lance Armstrong. Gotta accept that. But you ar doing very well. Even better: you are of your meds! Now THAT is really good news. The rest will come, trust me. Takes longer because you have a lot more to learn and experiment than others. But it will.

    In the meantime: it's ok that you try to catch me:happy: , but I'd rather ride the extra miles for you until you safely figured everything out.

    Take it easy

    Steff
  • p90x_Dude
    p90x_Dude Posts: 332
    Sounds scary, but you did the right thing by taking the glucose tablets (not sure you needed 4). As I'm sure you know hypoglycemia and hyperglycemia's symptoms are so close your better off, if in doubt, if you treat is as if it were hypoglycemia which would be fatal much quicker. Glad all worked out and you're a beast on the bike, I don't even ride my motorcycle that far in a day anymore. Keep it up and be safe.
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