How “Clean Eating” Made Me Fat-Article

I haven't finished it yet (I'm out of it today and can't focus too well), but I read most of it. It actually is an interesting read and I encourage people to try reading it before they start bashing it.

I don't think all these diets that involve cutting out things you love are a good thing in the long run. Not only will it deprive you of things you love (face it, alternatives are rarely ever the same... only time I have found them to be better in my case was PB2.. yum), but they should not be thought of as weight loss methods, anyway. They are lifestyles. Just as I hate seeing people go vegan to lose weight (I have actually known this to be a gateway to eating disorders in a couple close friends), I hate seeing people say they want to go paleo or what have you to lose weight. The motivation should not be weight loss, but because you really believe in the ethics/morals/etc of the lifestyle.

The reason people gain weight is because they eat in excess. It's as simple as that. Pizza does not make anyone fat. People eating four slices instead of 1 or 2 is what makes them fat. If I want to eat pizza, I'm going to eat pizza. And *gasp* I, too, use splenda in my coffee.

this is why I highly recommend my fitness pal to my friends as opposed to weight watchers. on their new plan you can eat as many fruits and veggies as you want...obviously it implies portion control but when some things have points and others don't it gives people the green light to consume pointless foods til no end. I've lost 10 pounds in the first six weeks of using my fitness pal combined with an exercise program and I wish I could get back every last penny I wasted with weight watchers but the least I can do is let people know they are in the right place with mfp.

Awhile ago, I was reading about doing a Whole 30 (never did one) and there is an eating plan/guideline. So, I don't understand the people who say that there are no rules/you can eat as much as you want if doing Paleo? The Whole 30 is the same as Paleo, right -if not even more strict than Paleo.
This is the meal plan:
http://whole30.com/downloads/whole30-meal-planning.pdf

Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

Eric posts a wealth of interesting things.

The cardio makes you fat thread was, however, particularly awesome with all the panties it twisted. Especially since I'd guess 75% of people didn't read it.

If I really wanted to tick people off I would post a link to the T-Nation article that came out today called "The Jogging Delusion".

that is a great article. especially the first line.

I read this article earlier and I enjoyed it.
It reminds me of some of the people I know IRL.

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If I really wanted to tick people off I would post a link to the T-Nation article that came out today called "The Jogging Delusion".
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That was worth the read just for the LOLz.

In to read later.....long @ss day and sleep is calling me!

I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.

Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.

I think she was referring to how he ate back when he was on the paleo diet. He ate too much; he gained weight.

Exactly. From the article:

"See, because of Paleo’s lack of accounting for calories, and it’s tendency to recommend low-carb, but higher-fat food sources, my calorie intake was through the roof. As I’d not been allowed some of my favourite foods like oats, rice, cottage cheese, beans and bread, I’d compensated by filling up on more of the foods I was allowed. End result = a “healthy” diet that had made me overweight."

I don't see how thinking you can eat unlimited amounts and lose weight as long as you follow Paleo (which is arguably not the same as "clean eating") is much different than believing you can eat all like and lose with anything else. It all shows a lack of common sense.

I have a paleo cookbook (due to IBS I sometimes have to cut wheat/dairy when having flairs from stress) and that was the part that I disregarded. When it said you didn't need to count calories I scoffed. I have made several recipes from it and logged them on MFP. Some aren't bad calorie wise but others were quite high. I will continue to make recipes from paleo cookbooks, as long as they are yummy and fit in my goals. I will also continue to eat out as needed/wanted and have dessert whenever I can. :drinker:

Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

Eric posts a wealth of interesting things.

The cardio makes you fat thread was, however, particularly awesome with all the panties it twisted. Especially since I'd guess 75% of people didn't read it.

i didnt even see it and its twisting my panties lol

I have seen more than a few posters on this site and others claim that it is nearly impossible to get fat eating 'clean' or 'paleo'

Also, this is one thing I hate about the nerd fitness site. He promotes paleo. Overall, it's not a horrible diet since it emphasizes whole foods, lean meats, and veggies (there's just no reason to cut out other foods, and the name is completely inaccurate). But, he often says that it's a good alternative to counting calories, which is far too difficult and tedious.

In theory, you can lose weight not counting on paleo, if you eat the correct portions of the correct foods. I'd think you'd at least need to count for a little bit to make sure you aren't over or under eating. Even if you find counting tedious, it seems like it would make sense to do it for two weeks, and then if a few months later if you aren't losing weight, track for another two weeks.

Personally, I don't find counting all that tedious, and it clearly works.