Why you should NOT workout

Why am I replying to this...


There is a fallacy in your argument
The premise that " we are born with a certain number of heartbeats"
does not support the conclusion that "if you exercise, your heart beats faster to your early demise"

Based on that argument alone we should also not: have sex (thus not reproduce), not work (stress causes elevated heart rates), not watch movies (elevates our emotions which increases our heart beats), and the list continues. The only thing we should do is stick a feeding tube in our bodies, stay in our beds, and sleep -- again like you said, its not about quality life, but I digress before I go onto another tangent

Yes, humans do have a "shelf life," as in eventually... we all die. WHEN we die is a matter of fate which I guess you can argue is already predetermined, so yes in theory we do have a "limited" amount of heart beats. Also whether by pulling the plug when you're brain dead or in a car accident or by natural death, the way everyone dies is through a cardiac death. This is where the confusion seems to be.

With the above stated information, lets go through a thought experiment: A man named John lives to be 50 year old and then dies. In those 50 years he has accumulated 123, 456, 789 heart beats.
Everyone dies (when determined by fate) and everyone dies a cardiac death, so your premise seems valid; however, it does NOT support the conclusion that thus we should not exercise.

In our hypothetical scenario, John died from a car accident. Your conclusion doesn't take into account the many other variables in life, it simply assumes that people die a natural death. It doesn't take into account accidents and ailments among other things that can befall on a person.


"Point is, time and gravity are what cause things to have a shelf life including instruments. And human body is the same. When you use it faster, you lose it faster.....is what they are saying."

Time is a man-made social construct -- time doesn't exist
Gravity is only but a theory.

But okay hypothetically again, let's say it was true and look at your argument from another scenario: You buy say.... an ipad and there is a product obsolescence that's set for exactly 2 years. This means in exactly 2 years, it will start malfunctioning and break. Would you A) Put it on a shelf to collect dust or Use it as many times as you can to the best potential until it breaks at that 2 year mark. I think we both know the answer here, same thing applies to the human body.


"Ok so lets think about it. You buy a clock....you take super care of it, you keep it in a dust proof, vacuumed container. do you really think it will work longer than the identicant one you bought that gathered dust? i think not"

Yes, the answer to that question is yes. And again to prove the fallacy in your argument, let's look at another scenario: Cars. Imagine you had a car that you washed, changed the oils, changed the break fluid and steering wheel fluid, put water in it, etc on a regular basis. Imagine another car of the SAME make and model and year in which you didn't do any of those things. Which of the two would last longer? Same thing goes for the human body.



"The assertion is that 99% of life expectancy is in your genes and pre-decided upon birth.
Now quality of life is a variable you can change. You can be fit to enjoy a run or a hike. You can enjoy the fresh fruits and vegetables, program yourself to do that. You can lift your grandson when you are 80.
But you can probably not change expectation of life by any appreciable quantity.
This is why you see that life expectancy increases for a population and not for a subgroup of people, over time. And life expectancy increases due to medical break throughs and technological advances, not because of improved workouts."

You started off so well! Why did you stop!
Yes genes do play a factor, so you do realize there more factors that play into this, that's great!
BUT genes are NOT the only factors that play a role. Lifestyle and environmental factors also play a huge role into this!

Another scenario: a man has a family history (genetic) of high blood pressure that lead to the death of his father and grandfather via heart attack and stroke respectively. However, through diet and exercise he was able to prevent high blood pressure and has not had a case of it. So there goes the argument of genes being the sole determining factor.

As to life expectancy increases being due to medical and technological advances, not improved work outs.... Not quite...
For example, take a look at Japan. They have the highest living expectancy BECAUSE of their lifestyle of eating healthy and exercising (might not exactly be in a gym but they walk everywhere for example).
Also if you look at 1st world vs 3rd world countries one of the biggest differences (other than technological and medical advances) is their LIFESTYLE. People have access to clean water and food in 1st world countries that the 3rd world does not. But what's interesting to note is that if you compare a healthy person from a 1st world country vs 3rd world country, people in the 3rd world country are healthier because of their diet and active lifestyle. So in conclusion, the reason why the life expectancy is lower in 3rd world countries is NOT solely based on technological and medical advances but rather because of the lack of access to be able to live a healthy lifestyle.


So to conclude this already long reply: death is inevitable and based on fate-- I'll take your premise. But fear of death should not be hindering us to live to the fullest; and once again there are MANY benefits to a healthy diet and exercise that's proven to help prevent/cure/alleviate the many road blocks in life that might prevent us from reaching the point where our heart will "run out of beats". So it might not necessarily let us live longer per say, but atleast it'll help us get to the point to where we die because our heart failed us.
Also quantity does not surpass quality (you can read John Mill to learn all about that).
And lastly... don't believe everything you hear on the interwebz

I spy with my little eye.....


If you lack the intelligence to understand what's being said, I'm sure you'd label Einstein a troll


...... A TROLL!!!!!!

I spy with my little eye.....


If you lack the intelligence to understand what's being said, I'm sure you'd label Einstein a troll


...... A TROLL!!!!!!

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If you lack the intelligence to properly reply to a quote on a message forum, I'm sure you would consider Kanye West as smart as Einstein.

Heard on the interwebz that we are all born with a certain number of heartbeats. So if you exercise, your heart beats faster to your early demise.

If a clock, a clutch, an IPad has s shelf life, then it makes sense that the heart as a shelf life.

What say you?

But we have no definite proof that exercise makes you live longer. Not talking quality of life. Sure you can be a fat slob, cant take the stairs and live to be 100, and sure you can be an athlete and have a heart attach at 45....

Point is, time and gravity are what cause things to have a shelf life including instruments. And human body is the same. When you use it faster, you lose it faster.....is what they are saying.

i am just the news bearer

OP is talking sense.
That's why athletes have chronic pain when they are older, and football players sometimes experience symptoms of brain damage when older.
Gymnasts are short.
Look at Muhammad Ali.
Bruce Lee died young too even though he was so fit.