Geting your kids on track..
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My daughter is 6 years old, she is 48 inches tall and 60.2 lbs. For her body shape, she does not look overweight..but when I looked up her bmr on myplate.gov it said she was borderline overweight.. Well, either way I do not want her growing up to be overweight so I have started talking to her about why it is important to lose weight, and that she needs to make "junk food" (chips, ice cream the norm) a special treat. For example, she asks everyday about money for a bag of chips at school. I was giving her the money, but then she started wanting ice cream every Friday. So, I told her to make ice cream a special treat every Friday instead of eating chips everyday. She seems to understand because she has seen me struggle with my weight.
I do not want to be "hard" on her and make her thing food is bad. This is why I try to explain that the sweets should be special treats instead of an everyday snack. I also noticed she was snacking all day long, even right after dinner she was saying she was hungry. I have a horrible problem eating when I am bored, and I want to stop that in her everyday routine before it becomes a concern later on. I started explaining to her that she needed to space out her meals, and not eat everything all at once. She is also a nibbler so she will get a snack, take a bite, throw it away, and get another snack. So many bad habits stand out to me already.
Do you have any suggestions on how I can keep her on the right track?
I do not want to be "hard" on her and make her thing food is bad. This is why I try to explain that the sweets should be special treats instead of an everyday snack. I also noticed she was snacking all day long, even right after dinner she was saying she was hungry. I have a horrible problem eating when I am bored, and I want to stop that in her everyday routine before it becomes a concern later on. I started explaining to her that she needed to space out her meals, and not eat everything all at once. She is also a nibbler so she will get a snack, take a bite, throw it away, and get another snack. So many bad habits stand out to me already.
Do you have any suggestions on how I can keep her on the right track?
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Tough job as a parent...
My only advice, for what it is worth, is to lead by example.
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THANKS - that is what I have started this week especially. I have even been telling her how hard it is to be overweight, and why she wants to start now instead of waiting till later.
I know its hard info for a 6 yr old, but I just fear for her. On both sides of her family there is obesity, I want to prevent that struggle for her.0 -
I mean, she's six years old. I think it's great that you want to teach her good health habits, but I would go with more of a behavioral approach because I don't know if she's really old enough to understand your reasoning or motivation when asking her to make these changes. You're the parent, so really you're in control of whether she gets a snack after dinner or whether she gets chips at school. The problem a lot of parents have is that they want to avoid a fuss, so they give in whenever their children pester them for something, like a candy bar at the grocery store. In doing so, you're just teaching the child that they only have to yell and scream in order to get what they want. So I would recommend that until she's older, you just decide how often you're going to give her treats and what you're going to give her and try your best to stick to it. She should not have direct access to whatever treats she wants. You may have to put up with a few tantrums in the process, but that's part of being a parent, right?
On the other hand, though, I wouldn't worry too much about her weight if she's just "borderline" as you said. I personally don't think kids should be required to strictly track their diet and exercise unless something has really gone wrong, and she really is very young.
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Unless your six year old knows how to drive and has the means to purchase groceries, she is probably going to have to eat what you provide. Stop buying unhealthy food and then neither you nor her will be tempted to eat it. Healthy foods can taste just as good or better than junk, you just need to find the right ways to prepare them.There is nothing wrong with ice cream and "treats" every now and then.0
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She is six years old and at a very impressionable age. It sounds like you are setting her up for failure down the road if you are starting to have conversations now about weight loss. She is a growing kid and it is quite possible that she truly is hungry after dinner and that may have nothing to do with your fear of eating out of boredom. I would suggest not projecting your fears and issues onto your kid.0
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I think it's very reasonable to get them thinking like it early. I have obesity in my family and I just ate out of boredom and got obese myself, finally getting round to sorting that out now. Thankfully my young sisters are very slim but don't eat well and I'm trying to prevent them from turning out like me, mum and their step dad.0
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I am not trying to put any of my fears on to my kid, but as I mentioned obesity is a huge part of both sides of the family. i want to prevent that for her. Also, I get that I am in control of what she eats but I have just started all of this myself so "getting the junk out of the house" is just a start for me as well.
I am looking for advice on the best approach, if she is hungry of course I am going to feed her. But, if she is literally sitting at the table eating dinner and says she is full .. why is she going for a snack 2 seconds later???
I get a lot of it falls on me for allowing her to eat the snacks she has had in the past, and I take ownership 100%..because I have been that parent that just gives in.
I am looking for ideas on recipes to try with her, other ways of making it a lifestyle change for her as well. I am NOT looking to put her on a diet.. I think she is perfect, I just do not want her to struggle later on..am I wrong for wanting to start showing her the right path now? I am not talking to her about counting calories.. I am just talking to her about not eating her snacks immediately after finishing a big meal, to save them as a special treat .., like I mentioned I am explaining to her she should chose which snack she wants the most and it be a special treat instead of an everyday snack.
I know a lot of it has to do with recipes and different approaches.. and that is what I am asking for advice on.
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I think it's very reasonable to get them thinking like it early. I have obesity in my family and I just ate out of boredom and got obese myself, finally getting round to sorting that out now. Thankfully my young sisters are very slim but don't eat well and I'm trying to prevent them from turning out like me, mum and their step dad.
TY - I am not trying to put her on a diet, and I knew that was going to be some of the remarks I received when I posted this topic -- I am just needing advice on the best approach. I have started going onto myplate.gov also to get more ideas and activities talking about healthy lifestyles. I will never deprive her, I just want to show her and teach her.0 -
She is six years old and at a very impressionable age. It sounds like you are setting her up for failure down the road if you are starting to have conversations now about weight loss. She is a growing kid and it is quite possible that she truly is hungry after dinner and that may have nothing to do with your fear of eating out of boredom. I would suggest not projecting your fears and issues onto your kid.
I agree. Provide her with healthy food options, but don't start giving food/food-behaviours negative labels. I remember growing up with a mother who (despite being gorgeous inside and out) was always critical of herself and her size, and was always on one diet or another. I was a bigger (not overweight, but not skinny!) kid, and she constantly reminded me that I didn't want to be like her, and always commented on what/how I was eating! Not really surprising that I ended up with body and food issues!
Don't label food 'good' or 'bad' and don't lecture her on her weight. Just encourage her to be active, and remember that a balanced diet means ALL food is eaten in moderation. Also, food isn't a reward or something to treat yourself with when you have had a bad day. Try not to give food any emotional labels - its is fuel for our bodies. Delicious, delicious fuel! :P
PS: BMI's aren't accurate for children. Centile charts and specific formulas are used by doctors/nurses for children's weights0 -
Maybe it would be more healthy to approach this by getting her involved in dance, skating, other sports for extra-curricular. Also, consider talking more about healthy foods, nutrition and balanced meals rather than discussing losing weight.0
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I can see why you want to stop her problem before it BECOMES a real problem (she's 6 and her weight is BORDERLINE)...but I wouldn't talk to my 6 year old about LOSING WEIGHT.........kinda sets her up for issues in my opinion.....I agree if you buy the food you are in charge....but also see why you want her to understand. When my kids want junk, I say no...if I feel an explanation is needed I say "because we need to eat healthier so we can be healthy". But I also don't like them saying anything about people needing to lose weight or being "fat" (I hate that word)........my hubby works with a guy who has recently lost over 100 pounds....my kids see him walking or at work and say "Wow! Mr. XXX is getting healthier!" (as opposed to thinner or not so big).....might also be bc my mom is pretty overweight and I would DIE if my kids talked about "fat", "chubby", "need to lose weight" or anything like that in front of her.....0
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She is six years old and at a very impressionable age. It sounds like you are setting her up for failure down the road if you are starting to have conversations now about weight loss. She is a growing kid and it is quite possible that she truly is hungry after dinner and that may have nothing to do with your fear of eating out of boredom. I would suggest not projecting your fears and issues onto your kid.
I agree. Provide her with healthy food options, but don't start giving food/food-behaviours negative labels. I remember growing up with a mother who (despite being gorgeous inside and out) was always critical of herself and her size, and was always on one diet or another. I was a bigger (not overweight, but not skinny!) kid, and she constantly reminded me that I didn't want to be like her, and always commented on what/how I was eating! Not really surprising that I ended up with body and food issues!
Don't label food 'good' or 'bad' and don't lecture her on her weight. Just encourage her to be active, and remember that a balanced diet means ALL food is eaten in moderation. Also, food isn't a reward or something to treat yourself with when you have had a bad day. Try not to give food any emotional labels - its is fuel for our bodies. Delicious, delicious fuel! :P
PS: BMI's aren't accurate for children. Centile charts and specific formulas are used by doctors/nurses for children's weights
Thanks - I remember my mom was always on a diet as well, and had major weight issues.. I do that myself also. I also tell her she doesnt want to be like me, so that is definately something I need to take away from this. I just thought that would be good motivation for her.
I went to myplate.gov and used the child/teen BMR calculator - it literally had her 1 pt above the normal BMI, which I thought was a joke to lable her as overweight. I know she is not overweight, just looking at her it is obvious. I just want her to be healthy.
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Maybe it would be more healthy to approach this by getting her involved in dance, skating, other sports for extra-curricular. Also, consider talking more about healthy foods, nutrition and balanced meals rather than discussing losing weight.
She is in a dance class, which she goes to every week. She has also done soccer, and we do girl scouts. I try to get her involved in every sport, but she refuses. For instance, softball just came up and I begged her to join because it will be fun...she refuses!!! Same thing with basketball..and when she has dance/soccer she sometimes whines she doesn't want to go. I tell her how much I love seeing her participating and the benefits of going.. but sometimes she seems to have a lot of lazy tactics0 -
Talk with her pediatrician about whether or not he or she is concerned about her weight. It scares me that you're talking to a six-year-old about weight loss. That just seems way too young. I'm afraid she'll develop a poor self-image and feel like there's something wrong with the way she looks now, which could be very damaging. It would be better to teach her about healthy eating by bringing a lot of healthy foods into the house and setting a good example by eating healthy and being active yourself. Maybe you let her get chips once a week and ice cream once a week to reenforce that those treats are "sometimes" foods, but I really think you'll be better off teaching her about healthy foods and encouraging her to be active--habits that can help her for her whole life.0
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Maybe, I should have made a more clearer statement.
I am NOT NOT NOT NOT telling her she needs to lose weight, or talking to her about losing weight.
I am telling her that I need to lose weight, and the health risks I can face. I encourage her to eat healthier and take to her about why it is important for her...
I am just looking to encourage her to eat healthy! She loves healthy foods..but she also loves to snack. I know I am in control of that..but I am looking for the best approaches to explain to her why she doesn't need those foods, or why we shouldnt eat them as often.
I did ask her to be my motivation, so when I don't want to go for a walk, she pushes me to do so.0 -
I agree with what a lot of people said. I don't think you should talk to her about weight yet, just start making healthier habits the norm for both of you. And I'm surprised no one mentioned this but six is a great age to get her involved in a sport. Present her some options and see what she's interested in. I danced and my brother did a mixed sports class. Or try getting active together. My aunt always took my cousins for walks after dinner. Great way for you both to be active and healthy.
ETA: I took so long typing this up on my tablet that other people mentioned it in the meantime.0 -
Kids learn young. When I was a kid, my parents told me positives about certain foods instead of negatives. For example, instead of saying that chips were bad (which would make my inner rebel down the entire bag) they'd tell me that certain vegetables would give me beautiful skin or something. My little girl dreams of being a pretty princess ofc made me want to eat those veggies. Sometimes they'd remind me the bad effects of junk food, but most of the time, they'd feed me nutritious food and tell me cool things about them. idk, I was enticed by science.
Also, my meals as a child, and still now, were kind of in courses so I was always full. We'd have a small serving of some kind of soup before the meal so we wouldn't actually load too much up on the main. The meal itself consisted of one serving of rice + a chinese side dish, and then a dessert of fruit. Not the same mundane fruits everyday; we'd always look for exotic fruits to try to keep things interesting. Trying out all kinds of fruits/ veggies are great because they might end up loving them, and want to snack on those instead of chips and all that goodness.
Sorry for the mini rant haha... I'm going to thank my parents a million times now0 -
Absolutely lead by example.
Keep healthy foods in your house, teach them about healthy and delicious foods, teach them moderation, etc. Lead by example.
I am proud of myself for my own weight loss and fitness accomplishments, but what makes me the most proud is when my kids (Ages 2.5 and 5) consciously make healthy food choices, ask to go on a run with me, and tell me things like, "I like to run because running makes our bodies happy."
Regarding the snacking... I don't know. I swear my kids eat all day. I don't worry too much about it as long as I offer them healthy options like fruit, veggies, string cheese, etc. as options between meals. Sure, they like "junk" food, but I rarely keep it in my house. They understand now that it's something we shouldn't eat very often because it's not as good for our body as something like whole foods.0 -
Maybe, I should have made a more clearer statement.
I am NOT NOT NOT NOT telling her she needs to lose weight, or talking to her about losing weight.
I am telling her that I need to lose weight, and the health risks I can face. I encourage her to eat healthier and take to her about why it is important for her...
I am just looking to encourage her to eat healthy! She loves healthy foods..but she also loves to snack. I know I am in control of that..but I am looking for the best approaches to explain to her why she doesn't need those foods, or why we shouldnt eat them as often.
That's what I was trying to say--I don't know if a six year old can really understand that to the degree you want her to. She's used to you giving her money for chips and letting her go through packs of snacks, so it's going to be hard for her to understand why she suddenly can't do that whenever she wants anymore. When I was young, my parents made dinner for me, and that included vegetables. I may not have learned to choose vegetables on my own if my parents had not exposed me to them first. But I'm pretty sure that, as a six year old, I would not have asked for vegetables. At this stage, she may just need to get used to having treats when Mom says she can have treats, and later she'll be in a better place to question and talk to you about why treats are limited. I just think you may be asking for too much by hoping that a six year old will be able to control herself and choose healthy foods.0 -
I understand where your coming from, my 9 year old is 102 pounds and her DR said she should be about 75 with her age/height. I have gotten my daughter more involved in what I do. We go for walks, swims, skating, etc. I have NOT said anything about her weight at all! I have made her feel like she's helping and supporting me on this journey, instead of making her think its for her. Its beneficial for the both of us.0
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I understand where you're coming from, but I think you're going about it in a bit of the wrong way. 6-year-olds do not need to "lose weight." 6-year-olds need to be active, eat healthy, and avoid gaining weight, unless they are morbidly obese. Kids will eventually grow into their weight if you can help them to maintain. I have also noticed with my own daughter that her BMI will fluctuate. Sometimes she will start to look a little more "chubby," but that has always been a precursor to a big height growth spurt.
The strategies I have used successfully for my 8-year-old are:
Making her responsible for choosing to eat 3 fruits/vegetables a day. My responsibilities include providing easy-to-choose (meaning prepped and easy-to-grab) fruits and veggies.
Educating her on how our body uses food and what "healthy" eating means. I encourage her to eat protein at every meal, eat high-fat, high-carb (junk) foods sparingly. I have taught my daughter some basic things about carbs, proteins and fats, and how our bodies need a balance of these macros to function properly. I don't demonize junk food, or use it as a reward or make it "special." It's just another kind of food that we need to choose in moderation with healthy foods.
I encourage physical activity by letting her play outside for at least an hour with her neighborhood friends, and by signing her up for after-school karate. If you don't live in a neighborhood where it is safe to let your daughter play outside, you need to step up and take her to the park or for walks or bike rides daily.
I discourage boredom eating. I struggle with that myself, so if my daughter wants to snack constantly or eat immediately after a meal, I tell her that she needs to eat a fruit, veggie or protein snack like a cheese stick or ham roll-up.
I role model the behavior I would like her to acquire. I go to the gym or run on a regular basis. I eat meals that are protein, whole grain and veggie based, and eat sweets and chips and other junk in moderation.
My daughter actually has an inherently good relationship with food, so I try very hard not to micromanage her eating. I have a terribly compulsive relationship with food, and don't want to pass my unhealthy issues on to her by interfering too much.0 -
As a former chubby snack happy kid, it is incredibly uncomfortable to talk about as a child. I started putting on the weight around 5 years. I remember always being mortified seeing episodes of Oprah with fat kids or having to get weighed at school. There is nothing wrong with wanting to avoid this with your own child. You seem very sensitive and aware as well, so I wouldn't worry about these folks saying you will give her a complex. You will only do that if you call her names or monitor everything she puts in her body.
From my personal experience as a child, when you see her snacking try to distract her (arts and crafts, physical activity, ect.) and as others said, lead by example if the bad foods aren't around I wouldn't have been able to eat them. If she's constantly snacking on fruits and veggies, then nothing wrong with that! I wish my mom had intervened earlier with me. My mother is naturally tiny and I think doctors assumed I would grow out of it for that reason... and I did not. At my highest I ended up around the 300lb mark. It's great that you're aware! Unfortunately most parents are not.0 -
It is great that you as a parent are stepping up and helping your child. I know whenever I see an area in my children's lives that needs worked on, I see that area in everything they do. If you try to hit it all at once it is going to overwhelm and frustrate you both. Maybe pick a goal or two to work on for the next two weeks then add another as you are working to make lifestyle choices for the both of you. Maybe this week, buy less snacks at the store and plan a walk or hike together. Then in awhile, add more fruits and veggies into the meals. Baby steps tend to stick longer then when I try to fix everything right that moment. Best wishes as you make changes for the better for you both.0
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i would encourage more activity before i messed too much with her foods. cut the crap of course, but really, movement will help her long term more. my girls are both smaller (both height and weight. my 6 yr old is 40 pounds and 42ish inches)0
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She is six years old and at a very impressionable age. It sounds like you are setting her up for failure down the road if you are starting to have conversations now about weight loss. She is a growing kid and it is quite possible that she truly is hungry after dinner and that may have nothing to do with your fear of eating out of boredom. I would suggest not projecting your fears and issues onto your kid.
I agree. Provide her with healthy food options, but don't start giving food/food-behaviours negative labels. I remember growing up with a mother who (despite being gorgeous inside and out) was always critical of herself and her size, and was always on one diet or another. I was a bigger (not overweight, but not skinny!) kid, and she constantly reminded me that I didn't want to be like her, and always commented on what/how I was eating! Not really surprising that I ended up with body and food issues!
Don't label food 'good' or 'bad' and don't lecture her on her weight. Just encourage her to be active, and remember that a balanced diet means ALL food is eaten in moderation. Also, food isn't a reward or something to treat yourself with when you have had a bad day. Try not to give food any emotional labels - its is fuel for our bodies. Delicious, delicious fuel! :P
PS: BMI's aren't accurate for children. Centile charts and specific formulas are used by doctors/nurses for children's weights
This. I grew up with a mother who was obsessed by her weight, she is overweight and it dominated her life, so I became aware of weight and good vs bad food very young, and I think that was largely responsible for me developing eating problems at a young age. So I would say yes lead by example by getting yourself healthy but don't always talk too much about your own weight struggles as it will likely affect her too.0 -
Our kids are watching us. Always.
My mom always grew a garden and always had healthy balanced home cooked meals for us growing up. She also baked cakes and made pies.
I can also remember when my mom started buying us "snack cakes" and other candies and sodas to keep at the house on a regular basis. We were in high school. That stuff just wasn't readily available at home.
I plan on doing the same way with my children. My 3 year old eats fruits and vegetables because those are his options. He still has treats (the only junk food he eats are oreos and fruit snacks, he doesn't like anything else really). He asks for the treat stuff sometimes when he's already had enough. I just say no. I'm the mom. No discussion.
Both my kids go with me to the weight room quite a bit (I workout alone) and they see me lifting. One day the 3 year old walked over and picked up the 3 lb dumbbells and started doing suitcase deadlifts. I don't even do those. haha. He looked like a natural. LOL
The other day I was doing my workout at home and all of the sudden I look around and he was sprinting down the driveway. When he got finished with that, he started doing ball slams with his football. He was imitating my workout that day.
Last night he was eating broccoli and when he got finished he picked a box up over his head and said, "LOOK HOW STRONG I AM."
I say all of that to say this….be a good example for your daughter. Don't have major discussions about food right now. SHOW her how to eat healthily and also have treats occasionally. Say no when you think she's had enough sweets for the day at home. SHOW her how to be active. Don't have negative self body talk in front of her. And don't let her know your struggles with weight (if you have them).
It is tough. We want the best for our kids!0 -
Maybe, I should have made a more clearer statement.
I am NOT NOT NOT NOT telling her she needs to lose weight, or talking to her about losing weight.
I am telling her that I need to lose weight, and the health risks I can face. I encourage her to eat healthier and take to her about why it is important for her...
I am just looking to encourage her to eat healthy! She loves healthy foods..but she also loves to snack. I know I am in control of that..but I am looking for the best approaches to explain to her why she doesn't need those foods, or why we shouldnt eat them as often.
I did ask her to be my motivation, so when I don't want to go for a walk, she pushes me to do so.
A 6-yr old does not need to be burdened with the health risks associated w/ being overweight. A 6-yr old doesn't need to worry or obsess about whether or not Mommy is going to get sick and/or die because of weight/diet issues. Emphasize "healthy" because "healthy feels better". As for the snacks, there is nothing wrong with saying "if you are still hungry after you eat your (healthy, nutritious) dinner, you may have an apple".0 -
After years of trial and error....The mantra in our house is " Keep the party treats at the party". We do not allow party treats in the house. Snacking is fine....if you have a reason to snack. Always have fresh fruit, veggies, raw nuts, cheese, and protein bars on hand. My nine yr old baked and frosted a butter cake for the Art crawl at St Mary's last night. She had one slice and the rest stayed at the church. We NEVER bring party leftovers home. Check her protein intake if she is hungry after dinner. Given the choice my kid would chose 90% carb for dinner. Simple carbs don't stick with you. So we make sure she gets plenty of protein, fat and complex carbs. She gets ice cream once a week at school. Other treats are based on activity. She always gets pizza and chips on chess tournament days and triathlon and cross country days are hot dogs, kettle corn and kona ices. Because we isolate party treats from the household we dont worry about rich foods at fairs and festivals. We also train her to portion her food. She actually enjoys this. She loves the food scale. She pours her cereal into a cup measure 'cause that's what we do. She knows that 5 crackers is a serving and does not ask for more. She also knows there is no limit on apples, oranges and milk. I make sure we never run out.0
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Maybe, I should have made a more clearer statement.
I am NOT NOT NOT NOT telling her she needs to lose weight, or talking to her about losing weight.
I am telling her that I need to lose weight, and the health risks I can face. I encourage her to eat healthier and take to her about why it is important for her...
I am just looking to encourage her to eat healthy! She loves healthy foods..but she also loves to snack. I know I am in control of that..but I am looking for the best approaches to explain to her why she doesn't need those foods, or why we shouldnt eat them as often.
I did ask her to be my motivation, so when I don't want to go for a walk, she pushes me to do so.
A 6-yr old does not need to be burdened with the health risks associated w/ being overweight. A 6-yr old doesn't need to worry or obsess about whether or not Mommy is going to get sick and/or die because of weight/diet issues. Emphasize "healthy" because "healthy feels better". As for the snacks, there is nothing wrong with saying "if you are still hungry after you eat your (healthy, nutritious) dinner, you may have an apple".
This. Don't talk to your daughter about weight, not even yours. Don't criticize your own appearance in front of her, don't talk about scary health problems you may or may not experience down the road, just don't. She doesn't need it, especially during a time when she's supposed to be GROWING. Kids go through fluctuations of being thin and plump as they grow in accordance to their changing appetites. Encourage your child to be healthy by being healthy. Keep ice cream as a special treat for Friday and remove calorie dense foods that are like it from the home if you're so worried about it. Lead by example, eat all foods in moderation, and play with her more often. Take her to the park and push her on the swing or jump rope with her in the driveway. Kids need to play just as much as they need to eat. If she finishes dinner and then wants a snack a little while later, give her something like raisins or a cut up apple and a slice of cheese (also, be very mindful of the trick that children her age do when they say they're "full" to get out of eating vegetables and then immediately afterward say they want something sweet). Build nutrition into when she's hungry instead of telling her she doesn't "need" to eat something, and if you think her constant snacking is because of boredom then make an effort to engage her more often.0 -
I am (and have been) overweight or obese for most of my life. My husband has not, and it was hard to hear him tell our kids "it's okay to be hungry" until I really internalized it myself. But he is right. Starving is different from hungry. You can tell your daughter: it is okay to be hungry an hour before dinner. You SHOULD be hungry when you sit down to eat.
My three year old also knows (and I am learning) that if he is not hungry enough to eat whatever we are having for snack, he can make it until we next have food again. If you enjoy reading, try "French Kids Eat Everything", which really hit me over the head about some of the bad habits we have about food as a culture.0
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