why am i lying to myself?

i need help understanding why i keep reverting back to old, bad bad habits.

hiding snacks from my boyfriend. cheating by getting a junior chicken and not logging it, knowing ill be over calories if i do. i bought cookies from the dollar store the other day - why would i do that when i know my goals and how to reach them?

these habits (or whatever) are what brought me to my highest weight - a scary 244lbs - last year. i am desperate to not repeat history, and yet i keep letting it happen. i remember a few years back, my mom was watching oprah (naturally) and one of the things she (or dr phil, or oz, or whomever) said was 'why do you keep breaking the promise to yourself?' and that has really stuck with me.. but.. i keep breaking the promise. why?

how do you keep your promises to yourself? what (helpful, please) advise would you offer me?
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  • bethlaf
    bethlaf Posts: 954 Member
    subconcious fear of success? something is holding back those chances to make this work , it sounds like an emptional eating issue, you need to examine that first.
  • chelso0o
    chelso0o Posts: 366 Member
    I used to do this. I started therapy and it has really helped. It's called self sabotage and it happens because of an underlying belief that you don't deserve something, or a belief that you aren't good enough etc. Something is happening that is keeping you from achieving your goals. If you can, I would see a therapist to understand these road blocks better.
  • Chickee8586
    Chickee8586 Posts: 155 Member
    I used to do this. I started therapy and it has really helped. It's called self sabotage and it happens because of an underlying belief that you don't deserve something, or a belief that you aren't good enough etc. Something is happening that is keeping you from achieving your goals. If you can, I would see a therapist to understand these road blocks better.

    This!

    I'm not worthy of being who I once was because I know me and don't deserve to be happy.
  • walkinthedogs
    walkinthedogs Posts: 238 Member
    I know I was doing it because I was fearing success, not for the success part, but for the failure that was sure to follow (since that had been my habit). Also staying overweight is easy, easy to excuse all the reasons I don't have a love of my life, can't do certain things etc. etc. I had to really ask myself (and still do) why I am scared to succeed, why I keep sabotaging my own efforts and do I really want this because it is in my power. I haven't actually come up with a good reason yet (therapy would prob help, but too poor), but now that I've lost 30 total, I love it. I love the way clothes fit, I love the way I feel, I love the way my fitness has improved. So you've got to ask yourself, why and really try to figure it out and in the mean time, keep trying to make better choices and don't beat yourself up when you don't, just make better one's next time. I have to remind myself constantly that this is forever so everyday is a new day to make better choices and quit fooling yourself or you will stay in the same whirlpool of unhappiness. Good luck!
  • jwooley13
    jwooley13 Posts: 243
    This is something I struggle with as well. When I first started using MFP, I would think to myself, "If I just eat this cookie and don't log it, then it never even happened," which is not the case at all. I kind of got over that by making a resolution to log absolutely everything in MFP while NOT on any sort of healthy eating plan to prove to myself that I could watch the calorie count creep up without cheating. After that, logging became much easier and I find that I'm more honest with myself.

    Also, as folks above me have suggested, seeing a therapist could really help if you continue to struggle. Absolutely everyone benefits from therapy!
  • lavendy17
    lavendy17 Posts: 309 Member
    I did similar things. I just went to a 7/11 and got the junkiest cakes. Then had a giant blueberry bagel and wasn't even hungry. A few hours later came home, acted like nothing happened, enjoyed dessert with my DH and pretended I was fine. I knew I wasn't. I was being self destructive. I could see all the signs in front of me. But you know something- the fact that you see it, is great, you can do something about it. You learn to catch yourself early on, you can stop the cycle.
    I eventually told my husband that I was eating bad things when I am out and about, and we just had this long open discussion about all the things that I was feeling. We do so much and never see how amazing we are, but the people around us see it. It's great that you came here to seek advice and was open about it all. In the long term you will see how this is all going to help you reach your goals.
  • schaskes
    schaskes Posts: 103 Member
    I agree with the other posters. The underlying issue is that you need to believe in yourself and your ability to overcome minor "blips" in your new healthy lifestyle. If you find yourself gravitating toward unhealthy snacks, try finding really delicious healthier snacks. If you really need cookies, try eating half and throwing the rest away. Log what you do eat and know that if you go over one day, it doesn't mean anything about the next day. Surround yourself with positive messages and people. If you need more MFP friends, feel free to add me. YOU CAN DO THIS!
  • Llorraine11
    Llorraine11 Posts: 350 Member
    i feel ur pain.. i do this to myself all the time.. just last night i did it and i hate me today.. i always ask why why why but i do agree i need therapy..
  • gramarye
    gramarye Posts: 586 Member
    I was using food to either a) improve my mood artificially, instead of addressing the underlying reason I was unhappy enough that I needed to eat my feelings or b) to cause myself some harm, usually emotionally to reinforce that I'm a complete failure and don't deserve to treat my body well.

    What has worked for me is to be conscious of what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. Some days I'm going to eat an entire pizza; as long as I recognize what I'm doing and don't make a habit of it, I don't stress it. There are going to be cookies and cakes and fast foods in the rest of my life. I have to learn to coexist with those things and enjoy them, rather than living on them. If that makes sense.
  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    If you're going to eat it, own it. A lot of times I will even prelog if I decide it's going to be an eat all the food day. That has put a damper on my bad days before. And if I eat more than I logged, I make sure to go back and log the rest. If I've totally lost track, I put in at least a thousand over what I know it had to be. Seeing MFP say "If every day were like today, you'd weigh 200 pounds in five weeks" is very sobering. At least it makes me try harder the next day.
  • KatherineLynnKane
    KatherineLynnKane Posts: 11 Member
    I bought myself an inexpensive bead bracelet and wear it every day.
    Each time I look at it and fondle it, it reminds me of the reasons WHY I want to lose weight.
    Having a physical reminder seems to help me whenever I start to lose focus.

    My friends and I created a weight-loss support group and meet every week to weigh in.
    Knowing that someone else is going to weigh me and mark my progress is a very good incentive.

    Like alcohol and drugs, food can be a dangerous addiction.
    Reading some literature about substance abuse and how to conquer addiction may help.
  • gibulet
    gibulet Posts: 8 Member
    Oh my god I am doing the same thing. If I don't log it, it never happened. I'm trying to fit into my wedding dress and I'm so disheartened because the scale won't move. It didn't move when I was crazy watching what I eat, so I just give up. It's has been a year since I've made any real progress weight wise. I don't know what to do. I'm 267# , the scale should be moving!
  • Ftw37
    Ftw37 Posts: 386 Member
    how do you keep your promises to yourself? what (helpful, please) advise would you offer me?

    I make myself accountable by making public announcements of my goals and my progress. I have told my friends, my colleagues and my family about my commitments and I'm damned if I'm going to reneg on them.

    In the past, when I tried to "lose weight" I was private about it so I couldn't let anyone else down if I failed.

    Now if I fail, it will have real-world consequences to my credibility and my pride.

    Maybe a foolish reason, but it's one of mine!

    FTW
  • cholepapi
    cholepapi Posts: 79
    Wow we can all relate to you. It sounds like you haven't found your drive. What drives you to want this change? Get used to feeling uncomfortable during this process because that's the way to success. We are our own worst enemy. Turn that negative voice that tells you to not change and create that positive voice in your head that says " enough I will succeed"!!!! :))
  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
    I did the same thing recently.

    I was eating non-Paleo ice cream and gluten-free cookies when my boyfriend wasn't around.

    All the advice I can give is that I think it was a stage.

    I was just lacking self-control at the time.

    I came here on MFP and fell in love with the idea that I could eat whatever I want and lose weight if I ate under my TDEE caloric goal.

    I gain 7 lbs, almost tipped myself back in to the "obesity" BMI range doing it.

    So, I just got serious.

    I don't know what to say, I just wanted to eat and cheat and have cookies before, but than woke up one day looking at a scale number going up daily and knew what I had to do if I wanted to change that.

    I guess I was just giving myself a break before another long stint of Keto.
  • anewdesign
    anewdesign Posts: 187 Member
    thank you all so much - its good to know im not the only one that struggles with this type of issue.

    its clear to me that its an emotional thing - its literally like once i start dropping some weight, its like i think to myself 'oh well i lost 2 lbs last week, this doughnut wont hurt. or those cookies. i have time to work those off.' but then i dont. and i get all depressed bc my next weigh in is less than ideal, and i know why. but im depressed right? so i go get a bag of chips. or ice cream cone. or something. anyone know any good hypnotists to kick me off sugar? lol.. goodness.

    self-sabotage. self-destruction. yes to both. but i dont want that anymore. i want to love my body, and myself. ive considered seeing a therapist before.. but aside from money challenges, im also worried that it would make me look weak to those who know me.
  • AsaThorsWoman
    AsaThorsWoman Posts: 2,303 Member
    A bracelet! I like that idea very much!
  • FTF2014
    FTF2014 Posts: 257 Member
    Oh my god I am doing the same thing. If I don't log it, it never happened. I'm trying to fit into my wedding dress and I'm so disheartened because the scale won't move. It didn't move when I was crazy watching what I eat, so I just give up. It's has been a year since I've made any real progress weight wise. I don't know what to do. I'm 267# , the scale should be moving!

    I ran into that problem before the way I broke out of it was to eat tight for 5 days and on the weekend I would eat more. For example I would eat 1,800 cal during week and 2,500 cal on the weekend. That seemed to throw my body off and get it to drop pounds.
  • anewdesign
    anewdesign Posts: 187 Member
    I eventually told my husband that I was eating bad things when I am out and about, and we just had this long open discussion about all the things that I was feeling. We do so much and never see how amazing we are, but the people around us see it. It's great that you came here to seek advice and was open about it all. In the long term you will see how this is all going to help you reach your goals.

    how did you approach this topic with him? my boyfriend struggles with weight issues as well and its a sensitive topic for both of us.
  • sweetpea03b
    sweetpea03b Posts: 1,123 Member
    1) make yourself accountable by having an open diary. Honestly, it makes me aware of how people must see my habits if they're seeing what I'm eating. But at the same time... don't cheat by not putting something in your diary because... who cares? This isn't elementary school... you're not going to be graded... you're not going to get in trouble if you eat something that's less than great for you... the only one suffering is you.

    2) Take pictures... often. If you have a pic of you when you were younger... keep that on your dresser/nightstand so you can use it as fuel to get back to that size again.

    3) Are you eating out of boredom? I do this after my hubs goes to bed and I'm up watching my "girly" shows at night. I've started crocheting while I watch to keep my hands busy... or drink a hot cup of tea... i'm not really hungry... I just think i am.

    4) Pick a goal outfit... I have these cute capris I haven't been able to wear in a while right in the front of my closet where i'll see them everyday... and I try them on now and again to see how close they are to fitting.

    5) If cutting things out of your diet isn't working for you... eat them... but you have to work it off. This sunday I had a piece of cake. 270 calories I wasn't planning for... but we had company over so I didn't want to refuse when everyone else had 1... so I just went for a 3mile walk to work it off.

    At the end of the day... only you can do it. You can't do it for anyone else... you have to do it for you. If you can't make the necessary changes and sacrifices and put in the work... then you're not ready. Just remember... EVERYONE has bad days, weeks, months... but don't use that as an excuse to give up completely. Keep going. Make tomorrow better. Good luck!
  • LVCeltGirl
    LVCeltGirl Posts: 473
    I have the same issues and keep trying to address them with therapy (long underlying that I don't deserve it and not figuring out why I still feel that way but that's why I keep checking in with my therapist so we can find it and flip my switch).

    I started by vowing to log everything (regardless of not wanting to see it) just to see my patterns so I can better identify the triggers and address those. Give yourself a month, just to see the patterns (or whatever other lie you need to tell yourself to get through the month of honest tracking). Trust me, you'll start doing little things like deciding against the impulse (or emotional) purchase of food and then eating it. You'll also start trying to go for walks, or other things to offset the emotional eating (it's the idea of starting to become an emotional exerciser instead).

    I will say, you may have to do this several times through your journey but you will see results. Purchases and eating due to emotional reasons (depression, feelings of unworthiness, etc diagnosed or not) are going to happen if those are the things that brought you to your heaviest weight. You've got to do what you can to recognize the issues so you can address them.

    After 50+ pounds lost for me, I'm finally starting to switch my thinking. Now I'm saying things like (making promises to myself and my son), when I get to OneUnderLand (so weight of 199 or less), I'm going to try Indoor Rock Climbing. I'm counting down the pounds, etc. That's my other helpful hint, find little rewards that are weight loss related but not food. Perhaps a massage at 10 or 15 pounds lost, or things like that. That is another way to overcome the emotional purchases/eating. If I give into this, then I can't have that idea and make it good enough that you don't want to give it up.

    You recognize the problem so you're more than halfway there! You've got this!
  • LVCeltGirl
    LVCeltGirl Posts: 473
    thank you all so much - its good to know im not the only one that struggles with this type of issue.

    its clear to me that its an emotional thing - its literally like once i start dropping some weight, its like i think to myself 'oh well i lost 2 lbs last week, this doughnut wont hurt. or those cookies. i have time to work those off.' but then i dont. and i get all depressed bc my next weigh in is less than ideal, and i know why. but im depressed right? so i go get a bag of chips. or ice cream cone. or something. anyone know any good hypnotists to kick me off sugar? lol.. goodness.

    self-sabotage. self-destruction. yes to both. but i dont want that anymore. i want to love my body, and myself. ive considered seeing a therapist before.. but aside from money challenges, im also worried that it would make me look weak to those who know me.

    If you can find a way to afford it, see a therapist. It is one of the strongest things you can do for yourself. Who cares what others might think, if they were smart and could afford it, they'd be checking in with a therapist just to make sure that they were mentally healthy just like we all make sure we're physically healthy. Mental Health is important too and does not make you weak if you decided to make sure you're mentally healthy.
  • msthang444
    msthang444 Posts: 491 Member
    My response is this (and as my mom says, take what you want and leave the rest...)

    Evaluate yourself. On your drive to work/the gym/ wherever... turn the music off... sit in peace and ask yourself that question. Figure out what it is in your life that is "out of balance" or "not quite right".

    For example... I found a relationship between when I feel "out of control" or when I'm "eating my feelings". When hubby and I had a fight and I didn't speak my mind - I ate my feelings. When my kids were acting crazy and I couldn't control their behavior, I ate my feelings.

    Food was comfortable. Food was comforting. I didn't have to be anyone other than myself. I didn't have to "fix" food. It just made me feel better..... In the moment.

    So... again.. that's just me... take what you want and leave the rest :)
  • msthang444
    msthang444 Posts: 491 Member
    I was using food to either a) improve my mood artificially, instead of addressing the underlying reason I was unhappy enough that I needed to eat my feelings

    ^^^^^ This for me too....
  • brendasharp9801
    brendasharp9801 Posts: 27 Member
    If you're going to eat it, own it. A lot of times I will even prelog if I decide it's going to be an eat all the food day. That has put a damper on my bad days before. And if I eat more than I logged, I make sure to go back and log the rest. If I've totally lost track, I put in at least a thousand over what I know it had to be. Seeing MFP say "If every day were like today, you'd weigh 200 pounds in five weeks" is very sobering. At least it makes me try harder the next day.

    ^^this is very true for me
  • msthang444
    msthang444 Posts: 491 Member
    If you're going to eat it, own it.

    On this note.... I am officially notifying the MFP world that Easter Sunday and the following Monday will be C-H-E-A-T days. I have my first 3 meals planned, and they are NOT going to keep me under my calories for the day. :)
  • Gearjammer71
    Gearjammer71 Posts: 151 Member
    I do the same thing and I've done it all along. I've been rather successful in spite of my foolishness, but how much farther along would I have been if I just knocked it offf? Last week I was cutting up an onion, knowing full well that I should not eat onions due to the fact that they spike my blood glucose. I accidentally cut myself... Immediately stopped the bleeding and proceeded with my onion. Really? My blood glucose spiking up over 200 was probably much riskier than the cut on my finger but I deal with it immediately. I'll deal with eating things that I shouldn't tomorrow. Tomorrow, yeah...
  • anewdesign
    anewdesign Posts: 187 Member
    thanks everyone. you are all an inspiration for me. i really appreciate you all being so positive and helpful. (you know how topics like this can turn ugly..)

    step one - honesty, right?

    i created a fake account to start this topic bc i was so embarrassed. i didnt want my MFP friends to see it was me.

    it IS really me. and i guess youre all right - its time i took control.
    i will have to work harder to make the right choices, and be proud of myself when i do. but also not hate myself when i dont.

    im very glad MFP is here. a place we can all support each other.

    thanks
  • booksgiver
    booksgiver Posts: 147 Member
    For me you hit the proverbial nail on the head when you called it "lying" because the thing about the food demon in our head is to recognize the lies. You know the lie that begins with "eat because you've been feeling lonely and this ice cream will really help", or the one that says "may as finish this pizza because you already ate 3 pieces", or I'm just too tired to fix dinner tonight so fast food it is", or the really big lie " I'll just eat everything I want and start my diet tomorrow". Oh there are so many lies and my own ability to deceive myself astounds me. I would lie and tell myself that the constant severe pain I was in was not related to my obesity. I lied and told myself that since I was so disabled I couldn't exercise and of course I couldn't lose any weight being sedentary. Then there was the lie that it just wasn't my fault because being obese was genetic. My best lie though was the one that got me every time and it played constantly in my head and it went like this. "Food is my best friend and it never lets me down" Well, thank God I finally saw through the lie and I admitted that I was own worst enemy. It wasn't the RA that had helped cripple me, nor was it the heart disease and apnea that threatened my life everyday. Nope, it was my refusal to accept personal responsibility for my own health. I wanted my food fix and I wanted my doctors to fix me. Crazy as hell, eh? I had a wake-up at 339 pounds when I'd been housebound for more than 2 years and I tried to get a surgeon to replace my right knee. It hurt so bad that if I could have it amputated I would have considered it...seriousy. The first surgeon I went to said to me "Your weight is killing you". I actually looked at his face move from concern to astonishment when I replied, "I know". I went home and thought about this and even then I denied and lied for another 6 months until another surgeon referred me to a bariatric surgeon. I thought that perhaps that was a new chance for me and so I began the 6 month journey required by my insurance company before they would approve the surgery. I began a new mantra in my head that began to compete with the lie. The new mantra was a prayer really, a plea for strength to fight for my own life. One day at a time, one meal at a time I fought the lie. I made it through the holidays and I began to feel hope. At the end of the 6 months the bariatric surgeon told me I was rejected for the "sleeve" because of too many co-morbidities, but the good news was that I had lost 50 pounds. I just kept doing what I had been doing for 6 months, logging in several times a day to MFP, logging my food, substituting high calorie food for low calorie foods, eliminating completely the things I could not resist, and reading the many success stories I found here. Today I'm 118 pounds down and still putting one foot in front of the other. The lie still plays in my head but now I am more conscious ot it. I finally had my knee replaced last month and even the post surgery pain was a relief compared to before. I'm dong great in rehab and I'm off all heart meds except one, I breathe so much easier and my GERD is under control as well. I am no longer killing myself but I am living to keep on living. I'm also not arrogant enough to believe that I have it under control. Nope, I'm still vulnerable, but the difference is that I'm putting up a fight, resisting the lie, and some days I don't hear it at all.
  • HerbertNenenger
    HerbertNenenger Posts: 453 Member
    I don't know why figure it out.

    useless and mean much?