Fat doesn't make you fat?

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  • FatGuyNL
    FatGuyNL Posts: 23 Member
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    It's the same with anything, there's good fats and bad fats. Monounsaturated and polyunsaturated do the body good. You can't compare getting fat from sources like nuts, seeds, olive oil, avocado, ect to the kinds of fats in stuff like french fries and potato chips.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
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    Fat can be used by the body as energy, so as long as you are active then you should be burning the calories that the fat gives you. As far as the nutritional properties of fat, it isn't that great for you, beware thought because unsaturated fats are less of a concern than saturated fats.

    Fats will be stored by the body as energy reserves when you over do your calorie intake, so just watch how much you eat. If your goal is to cut fat, then cut down on fat intake. If you want to build muscle, then fats actually help break down proteins to build muscle. I'm not saying eat as much as you like though. ;-)

    I'm no expert but this is what i gather from journals I've read.

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  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
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    Excess carbs turn to sugar and if not burned off are stored as fat, or so I have read. Fat is used for energy but not stored.

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  • pinkspinner
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    Here's why fat alone doesn't make you fat. In order to get into the fat cell, you need the pancreas to secrete insulin. Insulin is the "key" to open the fat cell. Insulin is produced when we eat carbs (please note that carbs are sugar, breads, pasta, wine, beer etc). Thus if you eat fats and carbs together, e.g. pizza, the carbs make the pancreas secrete insulin. Insulin then opens the fat cell. Any fat can now go IN the fat cell and get stored. If you were eating just fats without the carbs, there is no insulin released and thus the fat cell doesn't get opened. Your body just sluffs the fat off. Conversely, if you eat carbs without the fat, the carbs may cause the body to release insulin but there is no fat to get stored in the fat cell. Your insulin level stabilizes and the "door" to the fat cell gets closed once the insulin level returns to a resting level. That is very simplistic but the key is to separate carbs and fats. Of course, you can't do this all the time so there are days when you have to splurge and combine the carbs and fats. But after a day like that, have a low carb/no carb (except veggies) day, to get rid of the excess carbs and fats you consumed the day before. Easier said than done but it works.
  • philipfoster76
    philipfoster76 Posts: 14 Member
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    I'm no expert but if fat made you fat, then high fat/low carb diets wouldn't work...

    Eat fat to loss fat.

    This. Lost almost 20 pounds since January eating a diet composed of 65-75% fat every day.

    This! I'm down 30 pounds since January eating 65% to 70% fat daily.

    The group consensus here is spot on: If you eat more calories than you burn, then it doesn't matter if it was protein, carbs, or fat...the extra calories will be stored as fat.
    Your body uses different processes to modify all three into forms of useful energy, but if that energy isn't burned, it will become fat.

    So, whatever diet you pick, and whatever method you think will work best for you, make sure you are at a deficit and you will lose weight.
    Best of luck!
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
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    Here's why fat alone doesn't make you fat. In order to get into the fat cell, you need the pancreas to secrete insulin. Insulin is the "key" to open the fat cell. Insulin is produced when we eat carbs (please note that carbs are sugar, breads, pasta, wine, beer etc). Thus if you eat fats and carbs together, e.g. pizza, the carbs make the pancreas secrete insulin. Insulin then opens the fat cell. Any fat can now go IN the fat cell and get stored. If you were eating just fats without the carbs, there is no insulin released and thus the fat cell doesn't get opened. Your body just sluffs the fat off. Conversely, if you eat carbs without the fat, the carbs may cause the body to release insulin but there is no fat to get stored in the fat cell. Your insulin level stabilizes and the "door" to the fat cell gets closed once the insulin level returns to a resting level. That is very simplistic but the key is to separate carbs and fats. Of course, you can't do this all the time so there are days when you have to splurge and combine the carbs and fats. But after a day like that, have a low carb/no carb (except veggies) day, to get rid of the excess carbs and fats you consumed the day before. Easier said than done but it works.

    Ah the vaunted food combining theory
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,948 Member
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    Here's why fat alone doesn't make you fat. In order to get into the fat cell, you need the pancreas to secrete insulin. Insulin is the "key" to open the fat cell. Insulin is produced when we eat carbs (please note that carbs are sugar, breads, pasta, wine, beer etc). Thus if you eat fats and carbs together, e.g. pizza, the carbs make the pancreas secrete insulin. Insulin then opens the fat cell. Any fat can now go IN the fat cell and get stored. If you were eating just fats without the carbs, there is no insulin released and thus the fat cell doesn't get opened. Your body just sluffs the fat off. Conversely, if you eat carbs without the fat, the carbs may cause the body to release insulin but there is no fat to get stored in the fat cell. Your insulin level stabilizes and the "door" to the fat cell gets closed once the insulin level returns to a resting level. That is very simplistic but the key is to separate carbs and fats. Of course, you can't do this all the time so there are days when you have to splurge and combine the carbs and fats. But after a day like that, have a low carb/no carb (except veggies) day, to get rid of the excess carbs and fats you consumed the day before. Easier said than done but it works.

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  • dieselbyte
    dieselbyte Posts: 733 Member
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    Here's why fat alone doesn't make you fat. In order to get into the fat cell, you need the pancreas to secrete insulin. Insulin is the "key" to open the fat cell. Insulin is produced when we eat carbs (please note that carbs are sugar, breads, pasta, wine, beer etc). Thus if you eat fats and carbs together, e.g. pizza, the carbs make the pancreas secrete insulin. Insulin then opens the fat cell. Any fat can now go IN the fat cell and get stored. If you were eating just fats without the carbs, there is no insulin released and thus the fat cell doesn't get opened. Your body just sluffs the fat off. Conversely, if you eat carbs without the fat, the carbs may cause the body to release insulin but there is no fat to get stored in the fat cell. Your insulin level stabilizes and the "door" to the fat cell gets closed once the insulin level returns to a resting level. That is very simplistic but the key is to separate carbs and fats. Of course, you can't do this all the time so there are days when you have to splurge and combine the carbs and fats. But after a day like that, have a low carb/no carb (except veggies) day, to get rid of the excess carbs and fats you consumed the day before. Easier said than done but it works.

    ^Wrong! Just. Stop. Now.

    Dietary fat can and is stored as fat without insulin release (ASP). In a caloric surplus, it is in fact excess dietary fat that the body preferentially (and most efficiently) stores. Your "simplistic" explanation is wrong on so many levels. Also, protein is almost as potent a stimulator to insulin release as carbs (which is a hugh misconception on the MFP site). Your "simplistic" explanation clearly lacks any understanding of how the human body oxidizes and stores energy, and isn't "real world" possible.