looking for nutritarian friends
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I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.0 -
OP feel free to add me. I don't follow *his* book, but I do try to build my diet around nutrient dense vegetables, lean proteins, nuts, seeds, fruits, and a few whole grains and a bit of dairy. I try to focus on whole foods as much as possible. There is also a group here of nutritarians.Hi. I want to lose weight and be healthy. I guess healthy is the top priority. If anyone is interested in the nutritarian lifestyle or is already living that way and wants support add me. I want to hear what recipes you enjoy or what short cuts you use to prepare foods. Stuff like that. I am not interested in eating junk food in smaller portions as part of my regular diet, but occasionally I have no problem with it.
I've had chocolate pudding made out of white beans, and thought it tasted great, so welcome recipes like that.
Why *lean* proteins? What do you have against dietary fat?0 -
I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.
My interpretation is what it says in the link.0 -
"It's easy for a werewolf to be a vegetarian by day. The trick is not to become a humanitarian by night." - Terry Pratchett, paraphrased.
I'm a human-at-arianWhy does everything have to have an -arian suffix?
rastafarians: those who only eat rastaf.
agrarians: those who only eat dry economic reports.
octogenarians: those who only eat people in their 80's.
pastafarians only eat pasta?
lol... I was just wondering what humanitarians eat :noway:0 -
This is what it said in the link: "Nutritarians eat a diet rich in fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, onions, mushrooms, whole grains, beans, and berries, and particularly consume leafy greens, which are the most nutrient-dense foods. A nutritarian strives to consume at least 90% of their diet from these foods. "0
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I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.
My interpretation is what it says in the link.
What link? This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritarian where I see no reference to 10% re animal products.
Either way, I still argue that there now appear to be *at least* two distinct definitions/interpretations of the word...as evidenced by posts in this very thread.
Perhaps Dr. Fuhrman will jump in and clarify (since it's apparently his made-up word).
ETA: And I'll put my family-farm-raised beef liver up against the nutritional profile of any fruit or vegetable.0 -
In the quote above you it said what 90% came from, so simple math is where the 10% came from.0
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I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.
My interpretation is what it says in the link.
What link? This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritarian where I see no reference to 10% re animal products.
Either way, I still argue that there now appear to be *at least* two distinct definitions/interpretations of the word...as evidenced by posts in this very thread.
Perhaps Dr. Fuhrman will jump in and clarify.
unintentional pun?
the guy is a nutter. he once went 46 days ingesting nothing but water in an attempt to cure a heel injury because he didn't want to undergo surgery on it.0 -
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In the quote above you it said what 90% came from, so simple math is where the 10% came from.
Ah, good catch. I stand corrected. (ETA: this is what I get for trying to forum between sets.)
Okay, *now* I can go back to challenging the diet itself instead of my incorrect belief that there were multiple interpretations of what it means.
(Although now I'm curious...is that 90% by weight? By calories? By volume? I suppose I'd have to read the book to know for sure.)0 -
I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.
My interpretation is what it says in the link.
What link? This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritarian where I see no reference to 10% re animal products.
Either way, I still argue that there now appear to be *at least* two distinct definitions/interpretations of the word...as evidenced by posts in this very thread.
Perhaps Dr. Fuhrman will jump in and clarify.
unintentional pun?
the guy is a nutter. he once went 46 days ingesting nothing but water in an attempt to cure a heel injury because he didn't want top undergo surgery on it.
Not surprising. It's actually surprising to me when a diet book/nutrition author *isn't* batcrap crazy.0 -
In the quote above you it said what 90% came from, so simple math is where the 10% came from.
Ah, good catch. I stand corrected.
Okay, *now* I can go back to challenging the diet itself instead of my incorrect belief that there were multiple interpretations of what it means.
(Although now I'm curious...is that 90% by weight? By calories? By volume? I suppose I'd have to read the book to know for sure.)
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I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.
My interpretation is what it says in the link.
What link? This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritarian where I see no reference to 10% re animal products.
Either way, I still argue that there now appear to be *at least* two distinct definitions/interpretations of the word...as evidenced by posts in this very thread.
Perhaps Dr. Fuhrman will jump in and clarify.
unintentional pun?
the guy is a nutter. he once went 46 days ingesting nothing but water in an attempt to cure a heel injury because he didn't want top undergo surgery on it.
total biology fail *facepalm*
but now I'm curious as to what actual beliefs he held at the time that made that seem like a logical way to treat a heel injury0 -
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I think it means eating at least 90% plant foods. And 10% animal products like meat, milk, eggs.
That's a very different definition than the one that OP (or someone else?) offered on page one.
Perhaps this is like "paleo" where there are drastically different definitions/interpretations of it.
My interpretation is what it says in the link.
What link? This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutritarian where I see no reference to 10% re animal products.
Either way, I still argue that there now appear to be *at least* two distinct definitions/interpretations of the word...as evidenced by posts in this very thread.
Perhaps Dr. Fuhrman will jump in and clarify.
unintentional pun?
the guy is a nutter. he once went 46 days ingesting nothing but water in an attempt to cure a heel injury because he didn't want top undergo surgery on it.
total biology fail *facepalm*
but now I'm curious as to what actual beliefs he held at the time that made that seem like a logical way to treat a heel injury
who knows? i can't imagine anyone with half a brain would go along withy 46 days of ingesting nothing but water as a way of curing a heel injury though. :laugh:
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/your-disease-your-fault/0 -
Me!!!!! Plant based here!!!!! Open diary!!!!!
Only thing I won't give up is my Greek yogurt
and hot cocoa and Stevia
Other than those things plant based all the way I even make my own peanut butter no added sugars
Do you seriously frequently eat <50g of protein daily??? And frequently <20g fat???
Egads.
In addition to worrying about the damage you have done in the past (per your motto on your profile page), you may also want to give some strong consideration about the present and future.0 -
I didn't say I had anything "against" dietary fat. I eat what suits me at this time of my life. I get plenty of fat.
OP feel free to add me. I don't follow *his* book, but I do try to build my diet around nutrient dense vegetables, lean proteins, nuts, seeds, fruits, and a few whole grains and a bit of dairy. I try to focus on whole foods as much as possible. There is also a group here of nutritarians.Hi. I want to lose weight and be healthy. I guess healthy is the top priority. If anyone is interested in the nutritarian lifestyle or is already living that way and wants support add me. I want to hear what recipes you enjoy or what short cuts you use to prepare foods. Stuff like that. I am not interested in eating junk food in smaller portions as part of my regular diet, but occasionally I have no problem with it.
I've had chocolate pudding made out of white beans, and thought it tasted great, so welcome recipes like that.
Why *lean* proteins? What do you have against dietary fat?0 -
This !!##I've always considered myself a pizzatarian with tacotarian proclivities.
Love it!!0 -
I didn't say I had anything "against" dietary fat. I eat what suits me at this time of my life. I get plenty of fat.
OP feel free to add me. I don't follow *his* book, but I do try to build my diet around nutrient dense vegetables, lean proteins, nuts, seeds, fruits, and a few whole grains and a bit of dairy. I try to focus on whole foods as much as possible. There is also a group here of nutritarians.Hi. I want to lose weight and be healthy. I guess healthy is the top priority. If anyone is interested in the nutritarian lifestyle or is already living that way and wants support add me. I want to hear what recipes you enjoy or what short cuts you use to prepare foods. Stuff like that. I am not interested in eating junk food in smaller portions as part of my regular diet, but occasionally I have no problem with it.
I've had chocolate pudding made out of white beans, and thought it tasted great, so welcome recipes like that.
Why *lean* proteins? What do you have against dietary fat?
I guess we'll have to take your word for it.
(Meanwhile, perhaps you could share some of your "plenty of [dietary] fat" ideas w/ those who think <20g is sufficient.)0 -
I don't think it matters if you "take my word for it" or not, actually. And nope, I'll let those folks do what they see fit. cheers. I think we've hijacked this nice lady's thread far enough.:drinker:
I didn't say I had anything "against" dietary fat. I eat what suits me at this time of my life. I get plenty of fat.
OP feel free to add me. I don't follow *his* book, but I do try to build my diet around nutrient dense vegetables, lean proteins, nuts, seeds, fruits, and a few whole grains and a bit of dairy. I try to focus on whole foods as much as possible. There is also a group here of nutritarians.Hi. I want to lose weight and be healthy. I guess healthy is the top priority. If anyone is interested in the nutritarian lifestyle or is already living that way and wants support add me. I want to hear what recipes you enjoy or what short cuts you use to prepare foods. Stuff like that. I am not interested in eating junk food in smaller portions as part of my regular diet, but occasionally I have no problem with it.
I've had chocolate pudding made out of white beans, and thought it tasted great, so welcome recipes like that.
Why *lean* proteins? What do you have against dietary fat?
I guess we'll have to take your word for it.
(Meanwhile, perhaps you could share some of your "plenty of [dietary] fat" ideas w/ those who think <20g is sufficient.)0 -
Health = Nutrients/Calories (or H= N/C for short).
In for pseudomath.
Medical students: take note!!!0 -
While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.0 -
Why does everything have to have an -arian suffix?
You know who else worked really hard to have everything be an arian?
Hitler.
Actual giggle fit. Come on man, I've got a surly rep to protect over here.0 -
While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.
How so? She will still reach a limit on utilization just like everyone else and any excess is (at best) excreted.
ETA: Also, (vaguely-related thought that I just don't want to make a separate post for), our bodies don't work on a 24 hour clock. There is no reset at midnight. Our bodies do not just use whatever has been ingested since midnight of the night before. Sufficient micronutrient intake matters *over time*, but not necessarily daily.0 -
While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.
How so? She will still reach a limit on utilization just like everyone else and any excess is (at best) excreted.
She'd probably be close to or at 1200 and it's just difficult to get all your nutrients in at that level. I eat more than double that and have to be very conscious of iron and vitamin A.0 -
While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.
How so? She will still reach a limit on utilization just like everyone else and any excess is (at best) excreted.
She'd probably be close to or at 1200 and it's just difficult to get all your nutrients in at that level. I eat more than double that and have to be very conscious of iron and vitamin A.
Vitamin A?
DYE(1ounceof)sweetpotato?0 -
While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.
How so? She will still reach a limit on utilization just like everyone else and any excess is (at best) excreted.
She'd probably be close to or at 1200 and it's just difficult to get all your nutrients in at that level. I eat more than double that and have to be very conscious of iron and vitamin A.
Vitamin A?
DYE(1ounceof)sweetpotato?
I eat sweet potato about every other week. Squash, leafy greens, dried beans, fruit, root vegetables. Pizza. Lots and lots of pizza. The older lady might want to eat less pizza.0 -
And I'd also say: we all AIM to eat nutritiously, but rarely do we always succeed. I doubt most folks are excreting mass quantities of many nutrients.While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.
How so? She will still reach a limit on utilization just like everyone else and any excess is (at best) excreted.
She'd probably be close to or at 1200 and it's just difficult to get all your nutrients in at that level. I eat more than double that and have to be very conscious of iron and vitamin A.0 -
Health = Nutrients/Calories (or H= N/C for short).
In for pseudomath.
Medical students: take note!!!
also marketing majors take note.
here's mathematical proof why marketing people ALWAYS get paid more than technical people (scientists/engineers).
we all know that "knowledge is power"... K = P
from physics we know that "power is work divided by time"... P = W / t
and finally, it's well understood that "time is money"... t = M
substituting yields, K = W / t = W / M
or M = W / K, thus "money is work divided by knowledge"
therefore, the less you know, the more you make! ...and the more work you do, the less you make!
since marketing people know very little and the technical staff does all of the work, we have derived a simple mathematical proof for why marketing people will always get paid more than the technical staff. :frown:0 -
And I'd also say: we all AIM to eat nutritiously, but rarely do we always succeed. I doubt most folks are excreting mass quantities of many nutrients.While I applaud the intentional eating of nutritious foods, I cannot help but wonder what the point of eating so many nutrients is, as our bodies generally can only use so many per day.
If you're a 5'1" 62 year old female, it makes some sense.
How so? She will still reach a limit on utilization just like everyone else and any excess is (at best) excreted.
She'd probably be close to or at 1200 and it's just difficult to get all your nutrients in at that level. I eat more than double that and have to be very conscious of iron and vitamin A.
I can fit in plenty of (what is the opposite of nutritionally dense?) foods regularly as long as I make sure I watch my "trouble areas."0
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