Physical Attraction

I noticed the physical attraction thread on here about would You still be attracted to someone if they changed their weight and it got me thinking about my own situation.

In my case, a guy friend of mine told me that I was sloppy with my appearance. I asked him what he meant and he said that I wasn't as thin as I should be and that I don't wear perfume (something I have since fixed).

I'm trying to fix the weight thing as well since I am now feeling self conscious.
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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I noticed the physical attraction thread on here about would You still be attracted to someone if they changed their weight and it got me thinking about my own situation.

    In my case, a guy friend of mine told me that I was sloppy with my appearance. I asked him what he meant and he said that I wasn't as thin as I should be and that I don't wear perfume (something I have since fixed).

    I'm trying to fix the weight thing as well since I am now feeling self conscious.
    Really?

    Gosh, get rid of the guy. Any guy who says something like that is not worth hanging with.

    Also, never try and fix yourself for a guy. It's not at all worth it.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Not wearing perfume is "sloppy"??? WTF?? That's crazy talk!

    Sloppy would be if all your clothes were wrinkled or stained and your hair was unkempt. That's the dumbest thing I've heard today!
  • Ditch him you don't need that
  • missyjane824
    missyjane824 Posts: 1,199 Member
    'fix' yourself for you. No one else.
  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    I noticed the physical attraction thread on here about would You still be attracted to someone if they changed their weight and it got me thinking about my own situation.

    In my case, a guy friend of mine told me that I was sloppy with my appearance. I asked him what he meant and he said that I wasn't as thin as I should be and that I don't wear perfume (something I have since fixed).

    I'm trying to fix the weight thing as well since I am now feeling self conscious.

    get rid of him. he's not a friend. I had a "friend" like that for 7 years and he was nothing but a doucherella intent on raining on everyone's parade so he could feel superior. My hair was too flat isn't there product for that?, I should be wearing make up, those sunglasses made me look like a dumb@$$, my boobs looked kind of ''ehhhhhh" (said with a look of disgust and a weird hand gesture). There was so much more. I just can't remember everything. All I know is that when I finally quit that friendship I didn't so much dodge a bullet as finally dig it out.
  • xsmilexforxmex
    xsmilexforxmex Posts: 1,216 Member
    "as thin as you should be" ? ... did you prompt him or did he jus offer up this opinion? Personally as long as you're in the healthy range and comfortable with the way you look, don't let some jerk define the way you feel about your body, even if he is a friend. And I don't see why perfume is something to be concerned about... it's not mandatory, I know tons of people who don't wear it.
  • BRA_S
    BRA_S Posts: 111 Member
    "Fix" your weight for yourself and nobody else. He sounds like a douche.
  • Megan sorry to hear that Your friend said such negative comments about You *hugs*

    Smile for me, he offered his opinion himself over a month ago. He said I was sloppy so I asked him what he meant.

    I got kind of self conscious after that and wondered if most women wear perfume every day.

    And now I feel like I have to exercise every day intensely so I just got my period and my stomach hurts but I'm trudging through Insanity, albeit pausing it a lot. Sigh
  • Jestinia
    Jestinia Posts: 1,153 Member
    He sounds too high maintenance and finicky for my tastes. You sure you really want to bother with someone like that? Hope he has some other stellar qualities to make up for the effort he's putting you to.
  • meganjcallaghan
    meganjcallaghan Posts: 949 Member
    I don't see why perfume is something to be concerned about... it's not mandatory, I know tons of people who don't wear it.

    and in fact a lot of people would THANK you for not wearing it. A lot of people out there with scent sensitivities these days.
  • _KitKat_
    _KitKat_ Posts: 1,066 Member
    I am who posted that other thread, your situation is 100% different. My post was more about massive change and losing the physical attraction part of the relationship, only the physical part.

    Improving yourself should be for you, it can benefit someone else too but you must be priority. No one has a right to just make random judgments about your looks, or they can make them but you shouldn't have to hear them. Never change for someone, you must do it for you.

    Who is the guy? A friend giving unsolicited advice or a romantic partner that is controlling. The post I made was more geared to longterm or married partners. A new guy trying to change you is just a jerk and will only get worse.
  • salembambi
    salembambi Posts: 5,585 Member
    should of let him know his genitals are not as big as they should be :smile:

    & never allow him to speak to you or be in your presence again
  • pamb89
    pamb89 Posts: 28 Member
    'fix' yourself for you. No one else.

    This.
  • pamb89
    pamb89 Posts: 28 Member
    should of let him know his genitals are not as big as they should be :smile:

    And this LOL
  • Briargrey
    Briargrey Posts: 498 Member
    Not wearing perfume isn't sloppy -- it's a good thing. Between scents in detergents, lotions, shampoos, hair products, etc -- we have too many scents floating around, and most people tend to wear too much perfume and all those scents swirl around and clash. Ugh. I like quirky perfumes (black phoenix alchemy lab and the like), but I stopped wearing years ago.

    As far as the physical piece - you should do it for you. Not for anyone else. We're all self-conscious it seems (or at least a lot of us are), regardless of our size. Heck, when I was in my 20s and gained weight up to where I'm at right now (179), I felt awful about myself and my body. Now that I'm losing and have been up to 291, I feel rockin' at 179 ;) It's all in the perspective and the attitude!

    Don't let some person guilt you into changing you. If you want honest opinions and such, great, ask for them and don't be upset when someone tells you what they think -- but also don't let their opinion mean everything to you. Attractiveness is so individualized that I wouldn't listen to him at all! But if you have friends you can trust who give good, honest opinions, those are the ones to seek out. I'm terrible at fashion. My husband has a great eye for it. His style isn't entirely mine, but I know him well enough that I can take his critiques and then apply them to myself in whatever measure I need. I get to decide whether or not I feel like I'm trying to change for myself or for someone else....and I know he loves me as I am so it's not necessary. That's what you need to look for in a friend to give you opinions. Not some twit who thinks not wearing perfume is sloppy and tries to make you insecure!
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Megan sorry to hear that Your friend said such negative comments about You *hugs*

    Smile for me, he offered his opinion himself over a month ago. He said I was sloppy so I asked him what he meant.

    I got kind of self conscious after that and wondered if most women wear perfume every day.

    And now I feel like I have to exercise every day intensely so I just got my period and my stomach hurts but I'm trudging through Insanity, albeit pausing it a lot. Sigh
    This guy is not your friend. He has no business telling you that you were sloppy, and it doesn't matter what he meant. He was being self-serving at your expense.

    Friends don't treat each other like that.
  • Thanks for all Your words....but isn't it true that people aren't obliged to find someone good looking, they might very well look at someone and think they need to lose weight? So I can't exactly blame my friend for that....

    Sigh, I just got my period, I feel yucky, just did Insanity but now I have to do Level 3 30 Day Shred for the first time, it'll be hard doing all the exercises for the first time but my friend will look down on me even more if I don't lose weight.
  • Edensienna
    Edensienna Posts: 180 Member
    I only wear perfume on special occasions when I make a big effort to be all around attractive!

    It certainly wouldn't be part of my daily routine.

    Your friends views are not the norm I would expect
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Thanks for all Your words....but isn't it true that people aren't obliged to find someone good looking, they might very well look at someone and think they need to lose weight? So I can't exactly blame my friend for that....

    Sigh, I just got my period, I feel yucky, just did Insanity but now I have to do Level 3 30 Day Shred for the first time, it'll be hard doing all the exercises for the first time but my friend will look down on me even more if I don't lose weight.
    I mean this with utmost kindness, but it sounds like you are putting too much stock in what you think your friend thinks about you. If that's you in your profile picture, you look pretty small. Do you really need to lose weight?
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    Asking guys who aren't in an intimate relationship with you for their opinion of your physical appearance is neither fair to you nor to them. No matter what they say will upset you because you already know what you want to hear and it is often something that the guy will not openly say. They'll either be A) Liars or B) Creepers. In some cases you can add in C) Jerks.


    (Girl who thinks she is pretty) "Am I pretty?" Guy, "Yes." Girl, "Wow, this kid wants out of the friend zone but that isn't happening."
    (Girl who thinks she is ugly) "Am I pretty?" Guy, "Yes." Girl, "Wow this guy is not honest with me."
    (Girl who thinks she is pretty) "Am I ugly?" Guy, "No." Girl, "Wow, this kid wants out of the friend zone but that isn't happening."
    (Girl who thinks she is ugly) "Am I ugly?" "Guy, "No." Girl, "Wow this guy is not honest with me."

    Just don't do it please. We struggle enough trying to communicate with you girls.
  • lemonlionheart
    lemonlionheart Posts: 580 Member
    This guy just makes me so, so angry. What right does he (or anyone) have to police the way you look? What, is he perfect in every way? Do you think he would try to change if you pointed out one of his flaws? Honestly, if you are talking about attraction, every person has a different ideal. I had just as much success with guys when I was a bit bigger as I do now but I am doing this for myself to feel as healthy as I can be. The only person who should be giving you 'advice' about your weight is your doctor, if it is posing a medical threat.

    F#%k this guy.
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    should of let him know his genitals are not as big as they should be :smile:

    & never allow him to speak to you or be in your presence again




    Assuming you'd even know about that if he's a friend, not a lover.
  • SymphonynSonata
    SymphonynSonata Posts: 533 Member
    Are you holding perfume in your pic?
    and you want to lose 26 pounds? You look like you're 100 pounds now.
  • Qinnih
    Qinnih Posts: 7
    Is he just a friend or a "friend" you'd like to get to know more than just friends? Either way, no offense to your "friend", but he has no right to criticize your appearance in any way imo ┐( ̄ヮ ̄)┌. and girl, you keep making excuses for him, and that doesn't sound like a very healthy relationship; at least, not when he talks to you like that and you try and make excuses for him as if you deserve it...and you don't. From your profile pic, you look good and healthy, and not sloppy at all.

    On the other hand, as someone who's kind of sensitive to perfume smells, I'd say THANK YOU for not wearing perfume. Honestly, people wear too much perfume nowadays; every time i walk through the mall i choke a little from some passer-by with too much perfume "orz
  • leantool
    leantool Posts: 365 Member
    'fix' yourself for you. No one else.
    This X 100
  • ChristineRoze
    ChristineRoze Posts: 212 Member
    I don't see why perfume is something to be concerned about... it's not mandatory, I know tons of people who don't wear it.

    and in fact a lot of people would THANK you for not wearing it. A lot of people out there with scent sensitivities these days.

    I just wear deodorant and i only put perfume on when i go out to dinner or out dancing with friends.
  • Thanks to all who are saying perfume isn't a social obligation but that it might even be better not to always wear it =)

    SLLRunner, I didn't think I needed to lose weight until my friend's comments :/

    UConn, I didn't ask him, he told me himself, haha.

    Thanks Leah!

    Melsauntie, haha, no I don't know about it

    Thanks Symphon the adorable little dog <3 That cheers me up. I'm 126 pounds now... :/

    Qinnih, we're friends for years, not looking to get into a relationship though, thanks for thinking I look healthy! =)
  • Mistraal1981
    Mistraal1981 Posts: 453 Member
    I have a slightly different opinion. In my personal case I WISH someone had pointed out my weight was getting out of control. Tough love! It might have got me started on my journey sooner. I was always aware that I was putting on weight, but in my head it was never that bad.

    However, if you are already a healthy weight when he said that, then it was uncalled for.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    SLLRunner, I didn't think I needed to lose weight until my friend's comments :/

    See, this is what I was talking about. You don't look overweight at all in your picture. You are trying to please your friend whether or not you are overweight/underweight/somewhere in between.

    Why do your friend's opinions count so much to you?

    What is your weight? What are your goals for yourself? How do YOU feel about YOU?

    ETA: I see you said you are 126 pounds. Gee, this guy's gotta go. Really.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    I have a slightly different opinion. In my personal case I WISH someone had pointed out my weight was getting out of control. Tough love! It might have got me started on my journey sooner. I was always aware that I was putting on weight, but in my head it was never that bad.

    However, if you are already a healthy weight when he said that, then it was uncalled for.

    I think if someone is concerned about your weight and they know you well enough it's appropriate for them to say something. I don't get the impression that the OP's guy is saying something out of concern, but probably has some serious issues otherwise. With all due respect to the OP, it even sounds to me like he is grooming her to be a certain way. I say this because she didn't ask for the advice and he's said she's sloppy and needs to wear perfume and has made comments about what appears to be a normal weight.

    Back when I was 220 pounds at 24 years old, I did have friends point out that I was gaining too much weight. It was said in a very kind way, such as, "You look like you've been putting on quite a lot of weight lately. I'm very concerned about your health." Sure, I didn't want to hear it then because I already knew I was ruining my health but I didn't know how to stop the bingeing. I was also a recovering bulimic, and eventually lost weight properly and got into recovery for my eating disorder.

    There is a way to show concern for people we love who are putting their risk at health.