Trying to work(out) through depression

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  • kimberly_smith718
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    I also suffer from depression, as well as anxiety. Last year I put myself in the hospital because I was having suicidal thoughts and making plans. I am also struggling with waking up at a decent time. I have been unemployed for over a year, which means there's really not much to wake up for. My therapist told me something today that really stuck with me... "Progress, not perfection". Every tiny step counts.
  • fatalis_vox
    fatalis_vox Posts: 106 Member
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    Wow, you guys.

    Thank each and every one of you for the support, encouragement, and advice. I wasn't expecting to find so much when I logged on this morning, and it's wonderful to know that people are in my corner.

    I went for a (very) short run last night, only about a halfmile, with about a mile total of walking before and after, and then I made myself go out with some friends. I ate a nice healthy dinner. I tried to get up this morning, but just couldn't. I did think about it, though, and that's good.

    Tonight I plan on trying to go for another run (It's not a hundred degrees today, so maybe I'll do a little better?) and tomorrow I'll try again to get out of bed early, even if it's just a few minutes.

    It's very easy to feel alone when you deal with the things so many of us deal with. Sometimes I feel like I'm taking advantage of my friends' patience, or that they're just humoring me, or that if I come to them with these things too often they'll get sick of me or tell me to suck it up, that they're tired of me bringing them down. I imagine many of you feel that way, as well, from time to time.

    Online communities like this one are different, because people we don't even know can choose to feel for us and reach out to have our backs. And I'll have yours, too. If any one of you ever needs to talk, feel free to add or message me.

    I'm going to keep trying, and try to forgive myself when I fail. Maybe I'll do daily check-ins here for a while, just so I feel like I've got some people rooting for me.

    For anyone who is also struggling, I invite you to do the same! We'll help each other.

    Again, thank you all so much. It means a lot to me. <3
  • Cheriemightyfit
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    Hi. I am also struggling with depression. I seem to be emerging from it and feel a lot better. (It hits me in cycles, as others have said. It's only bad every few years.) I really admire your determination to take care of yourself. It really does get better. I respect your journey through this and hope you realize how great you are doing. I send you love and hugs!

    A couple things that work for me: (1) praise. you might not realize it, but you are doing a ton to be good to yourself and pull through this. I have had trouble getting out of bed (or trouble resisting getting back into bed!) It's important to keep your job because your life would suck more if you had to find a new one at this point. Praise yourself for actually getting up and going to work everyday. Lord knows that you really do feel "sick" but aren't ditching your responsibilities at work. This is huge. Getting to work at all is a major accomplishment. Pat yourself on the back--really. At the end of the day I say to myself: success! I made it to work...no one knows how close I came to not doing it! Seriously. If that's all I can do today, it's okay.

    (2) Anything that gives your brain a jump-start. For me, going to the movies gives my brain a good jolt. Not sitting in front of a tv movie, but going to the movie theater. For some reason, the big screen the loud sound and the bright images do something to jack me up and I feel invigorated after. I'm not a neurologist, but I'm guessing something chemical happens with the stimulation. The best are action movies, especially positive ones (corny, but superman was great). Another thing that helps me are video games--online ones or arcades or downloaded ones on my computer. The kind where you have to do something quickly. Again, I think it's adrenaline or something that gets jolted. (Maybe a Wii would be good for exercise?)

    I hope some of this helps. Please know that others are pulling for you, and you are doing everything right to get through this. You will feel better soon!
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
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    Find a way to "bribe" yourself out of bed and do put the alarm clock across the room! I have trouble waking up. I bribe myself with a piece of candy (that may not work for everyone) to get up. I'm a total sugar fiend so it does work!

    Exercise helps with depression. Situation depression, clinical depression, short term depression and long term depression. (My step-father is a psychiatrist/neurologist so I know a bit about mental illnesses.) A good motivator for running (not my favorite thing but a lot of folks like it ) is to get dressed for a run and tell yourself you're "only" going to power walk. It's a way to trick your mind into going outside to run. Then do a half run/walk routine and give yourself a reward (candy for me but that might not work for everyone.) Good luck!
  • TrekkerCynthia
    TrekkerCynthia Posts: 155 Member
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    fatalis, I am very sorry for your loss and the struggles you are going through now. There are times, even when depression is not involved, when doing what we need to in order to be healthy is just plain hard. Can you afford a gym membership, or find a reasonably priced gym or YMCA so that the outside temperature isn't an issue? Or check out exercise DVDs from the library? Just trying to think of things that will allow you to ease in to exercise that don't have time restrictions. Let us know how thing progress for you.
  • Cheriemightyfit
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    Thank you for your post! I haven't talked to many people about depression, so it is healing for me too! I am guessing that a lot of us feel that way-as you said, we don't want to burden our friends and be a bummer for them. It is awesome to have this community. I think checking in every day or every few days is a great idea.
  • fatalis_vox
    fatalis_vox Posts: 106 Member
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    Feel free to chime in with your own experiences or struggles, everyone! It's really very healthy to talk about it.

    I saw my counselor this morning, and she thinks I'm doing very well. She's recommending that I go into an intensive outpatient program--It's 3 to 4 weeks of all-day counseling, therapy, group sessions, and just focusing on getting healthy. Or at least getting healthier, and learning how to keep working on it.

    So instead of stressing about work, I get to focus on getting better. (I'm in the military, so I won't even miss any pay. It's considered medical treatment and not "missing work.)

    That being said, I DID go for a run last night, but again didn't get up this morning. I was actually late for my appointment, but my counselor was cool about it. I go back on Tuesday. If I go into this outpatient program, I'll start the 12th of May.

    I missed breakfast, so I'll be having a bit of a heartier lunch than usual, and I'll do the same with dinner. Maybe, if I have the extra calories, I'll splurge and have a super unhealthy snack.
  • lynliles
    lynliles Posts: 45
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    I've personally been struggling with major depressive disorder for about 10 years now.

    I know there are some days that it's really hard to simply get out of bed, that you just don't want to move or do anything and that it's hard to care because the entire universe will continue rolling on without you.

    How I usually deal with not wanting to work out is force myself to get up and do 5 minutes. I tell myself if I still don't feel like working out after five minutes, I can stop. Usually by the time five minutes rolls around, I almost never want to stop. Start light to sort of get yourself into it a little bit, dynamic stretching, jogging, jumping rope, whatever you're into. Once you get up and get your blood flowing and the endorphins going, it gets a lot easier to work out. I don't ever pay attention to time unless I have somewhere to be, but at the moment I school entirely online and my chronic anxiety has left me more than a little unemployed so my life is pretty free.

    It's a lot of little, silly things that have helped me get into a regular routine. My psychiatrist and I are actually cutting down my anti-depressants because of all the lifestyle changes I've made recently. Getting yourself on a regular schedule for things is good for you mentally. Exercising is also extremely good to improve mood and eating better will have you feeling better. I can tell the days that I don't care and emotionally feel like crap and go for unhealthy comfort food verses the days I wake up and reach for something a little healthier. It's a whole package.

    They say it takes 21 days to set yourself in a new habit. It's hard, but if you routinely make yourself work out, preferably around the same time every day, you'll start to get used to it more and it will just become natural. I've begun setting that up for myself and without fail around eleven every morning I find myself itching to go running.

    I'm really sorry for the struggles you're going through. It's good you're getting help for it though and not just wallowing. Depression is harder to deal with than a lot of people realize and I'm proud of you for trying to cope with it instead of letting it win.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,841 Member
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    Sending all kinds of support!

    I went through some depression and anxiety a few years back that changed my life. I know how hard it was to care about anything and motivate myself. I finally realized that even though I could care less about working out (or life, for that matter) it was just the chemical reactions in my body making me "feel" like that. I KNEW the workouts would help, so I just went though the motions and put in all the effort I could.

    I will tell you, it turned things around for me! I use exercise and meditation to manage things now and while I can sometimes feel myself slipping, I know I can hold on with good health and habits.

    Just do it took on a whole new meaning!

    All the best!
  • tmj4477
    tmj4477 Posts: 145 Member
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    I understand how all of you feel maybe we should start a battling depression group
  • bigburd82
    bigburd82 Posts: 7
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    Hi there! Kudos to you for everything that you are doing!!! Even if you are "just thinking about" exercise. Give yourself a break and hang in there. Have you ever thought of trying, "five minutes for everything"? Just get up and walk for five minutes and before you know it it'll turn into 10. As regards the upcoming 90 degree weather, what about joining a gym? I just noticed 24 hour fitness is running some sort of special. To keep motivated try a different form of exercise each day. Maybe it's mall walking to start, riding a bike another day or going to walk through a park near your house. I can understand what you're going through because I've been battling depression and had a major episode September 2013. My doc added a different med and I immediately gained 10 lbs of the 17 I'd lost since September. Today I was very low, so I can understand you. But hey, it's not about me it's all about you. So, don't give up! Give yourself a pat on the back for every step you take, even if it is just five minutes pretty soon it'll be 10, 20, 30. :flowerforyou: Take care.
  • bigburd82
    bigburd82 Posts: 7
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    Keep on moving!:happy:
  • ElidaBravo
    ElidaBravo Posts: 41
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    Hello,

    I can relate to how hard it is to find meaning in ANYTHING apart from your actual crisis issues when you're depressed. Everything seems so trivial and unimportant, you lose desire for most things you once enjoyed.....the actual stressful situations seem to be the only things that matter when you're depressed. Those situations take on a huge role and become our primary focus, or our primary source of avoidance, for some people.

    Bottomline, those life situations that cause our depression, well those situations eventually ease up....lil by lil....with time. I dont mean to say that in the cliche that "time heals all wounds". What i mean is that things WILL DEFININTELY IMPROVE for you, this time in your life isnt permanent......its temporary.

    For me, that kind of logic really really helped me, so often in life. Some situations are permanent, yes....like losing someone......but the pain that we feel wont always feels so unbearably intense. Do you get me me at all?

    Now, for some practical thoughts n suggestions: Have you seen a doctor, are you on antidepressants? If not, do you plan on getting on an antidepressant?

    Depression itself has different levels of severity.....mild functioning, general depressive disorder, or deeper situational depression, to really heavy major clinical depression. A General practitioner knows what questions to ask you to figure out what level you may have...they can prescribe and treat the depression.......and some GP's may refer you to specialist to figure out an action plan.

    Depression facts: Its a chemical imbalance, just like when someone who has Diabetes.....its nothing to feel embarrassed about.
    Depression is sooo treatable.
    SItuational depression is usually temporary and eases on its own with time, but you dont have to wait for that! Yes, other depressive disorders are much more complicated.....but they are all treatable!

    Ways to beat depressions: Western medicine antidepressant Medications, self help daily coping methods, certain holistic supplements can boost seratonin and help with sleep issues, certain dietary changes can boost seratonin, spiritual coping methods, talk therapy, self help books, basic walking outdoors, certain subliminal or self help audio programs............

    I know about depression.....yes i speak from my own personal experience and thats why I am sharing this with you.

    do you know anything about 5htp? Its a nuritional supplement that has helped me, is currently helping me and millions of other people. I recommend that you do some reading about this, there are many many books, medical articles, medical experts who say that this is good supplement for people dealing with depression, or insomnia or weightloss issues.

    I wish you all of the best, please feel free to contact me if you wish!

    Elida
  • fatalis_vox
    fatalis_vox Posts: 106 Member
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    I used to take a whole supplement cocktail before bed, including valarian, passionflower, and chamomile (to combat the insomnia), time-release B-vitamins (for mood and energy) and 5-htp. It worked for a while, but it wasn't a long-term solution.

    I had a really good weekend. My boyfriend was in an unhealthy state of mind, too, so we decided that I should stay home this weekend instead of going to visit him. And I CLEANED ALL OF THE THINGS. Kitchen, living room, bedroom, bathroom. I got rid of about 8 partly-unpacked boxes, dealt with laundry, organized a bunch of stuff, bought a drill and hung up some entryway hooks and shelves, hung the curtains in my bedroom, and generally went mad with cleaning.

    (Partly because of a desire to un-clutter my space, and partly because I discovered a bunch of ants going for the dog food.)

    I felt really accomplished, and while I won't say I felt "good," I did feel "better" than I Have in a while.

    Aaaaand then I got into a fight with my boyfriend, who is suddenly being a selfish *kitten* about my depression and talking about how he is "unhappy and getting the short end of the stick." Well eff you buddy. After spending some time crying into my pillow, I got angry and sent him a long email about why I was so hurt and angry. I told him that it's his right to decide if it's too hard for him to deal with, but it isn't his right to make me feel bad about my illness being hard on him, and that he has some serious re-evaluating to do. SO let's hope that that helps and isn't an end to my relationship!

    BUT I kind of need to prioritize getting better, and sweeping those feelings under the rug will really not help. If he can't deal with it, he can cut out.

    So today? I'm not doing so great. BUT I had a really good weekend. I might just go to town on a pile of chicken strips and some honey mustard sauce. Or I might just sit here and snack on these almonds all afternoon.

    On the plus side, I also bought a scale this weekend, and I'm down almost 3 pounds. So yay me.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
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    I'm glad to hear that you got a lot accomplished and felt a little better. And huge kudos for standing up for yourself and not being a doormat. If he decides he can't deal, yes that would hurt, but in the long run you would be better off.

    I like your new profile pic (well I don't know if it is new... but it is different than the one you had up before I think?) Anyway, you look pretty. :flowerforyou:
  • fatalis_vox
    fatalis_vox Posts: 106 Member
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    Thanks, deksgrl! It's only about 3 weeks old, so I think it qualifies as "new." And I felt pretty that day, so I took a picture. <3

    He was appropriately horrified when he realized that his callous, selfish words were that, and were so hurtful. He sent me a long email back, that mostly rhymed with "I'm sorry I keep trying to sabotage our relationship because I'm afraid." So that worked out.

    This afternoon, I go for a run!
  • kristelpoole
    kristelpoole Posts: 440 Member
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    I haven't had to deal with as many life struggles as you have going on right now, so I understand this isn't easy for you in the least. I used to have a really hard time getting out of bed in the morning, too. Especially in the winter when it was dark outside until I was leaving for work. Here's what I did...

    I have two alarm clocks. One is a Phillips light alarm clock that mimics the sunrise by slowly getting brighter and brighter, eventually going off like an alarm. I keep this alarm next to my bed, angled towards my face. This has helped me immensely and is great for people who suffer from the fatigue depression causes, because it taps into your body's evolutionary nature to rise with the sun.

    I have another alarm clock across the room from where I sleep that goes off at the same time as my sun lamp's alarm. This alarm turns on NPR, so I wake up to soft talking instead of an aggressive alarm buzzer sound. I don't mind staying in bed an extra minute while I get acclimated to being awake, and I usually become interested in whatever story they are reporting on, which keeps me awake.

    Loud, obnoxious buzzers just DON'T do it for me. I'm one of those that walks across the room in a stupor, slams the snooze button a dozen times, and hops right back in bed, usually in a bad mood. These two alarm methods have erased all of that for me, and now I usually wake up to my sunlamp right before the radio comes on. It feels natural and easy and pleasant.

    Hope that helps. :) xo
  • mank32
    mank32 Posts: 1,323 Member
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    I have gone through (something similar to) what you have and i do suffer from depression and anxiety. I have my whole life. I see no psychiatrists, doctors, nor counselors, anymore. I have noticed I have not had an episode since I started running. running has brought my quality of life up so high. I am never depressed. anxious yes to go run but that is a good anxious.

    forgive my laziness. it's just so easy when someone else has had an experiece similar enough that i only have to change a few words to make it fit mine. i think it's also very illustrative of the power of exericise on depression. :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

    i suffered from terrible sleep, my whole life, before i started exercising regularly. i still have difficulty waking (during the dark of the year; during the light time of year it's super easy, a la SAD) but it's nowhere near as troublesome as it used to be. my sleep/wake cycle was the thing that changed the fastest and the most. in my experience, exercise makes EVERYTHING better, and there's (almost) no getting "too much" of it. once i started running i the mornings, i got hooked on how great it felt to start the day that way and it was fairly easy to keep up. i've since gotten out of the habit of a.m. exercise but i'm working on getting back to it.

    best of luck! :heart:
  • aylajane
    aylajane Posts: 979 Member
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    I have several lamps in my bedroom on a timer so they turn on about 10 minutes before my alarm goes off. I tend to wake up a lot throughout the night thinking I am late or oversleeping, and as long as the lights are still off I know I can safely go back to sleep without checking the clock a dozen times. Then when the alarm goes off, its much easier to get up than in when its still dark in there.

    If you drink coffee, get a coffee maker than has a timer and can have the coffee made about 15 minutes before your alarm. The smell will help you wake up a bit and its easy to walk in and grab a cup while still half asleep and not have to think about how to make it.

    Good luck!
  • alimarie53
    alimarie53 Posts: 102 Member
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    This may not help but know that you're not alone! :) There are so many of us that have anxiety and depression.

    It will be hard but the first step towards working out through depression is getting out the door. There will be days when you have to force yourself out the door but once you do you will never regret it. From my personal experience I found that after getting in a work out routine it was like therapy. I wasn't focused on losing weight or anything else it was my "me time" to escape the anxiety and depression.

    I know many have offered to be an ear if you need someone to talk to. Please feel free to add me if you want. :)