Extreme fatigue a quick nap turns into a all nighter, Help!

OK.

I estimate your average TDEE is around 2100 per day.

WOW! Yeah, that's such a huge difference from 2086. Good thing you stepped up and corrected FatFreeFrolicking. Those extra 14 calories could cause OP to JSF.

Congratulations to FFF for her lucky guess that the OP has a sedentary lifestyle?

Yep, lucky she knows how to read and use a TDEE calculator, I guess. :laugh:

You're laughing, but it really is simply luck that her number was close to a decent best guess.

If OP had turned out to be a nurse, factory worker, daycare worker, or some other job that has her on her feet for hours a day then 2086 would have been a dramatic underestimation.

This is not a point you can argue, nor is it worth arguing.,

The funny part is that *all* the calculators are just an estimate to begin with, so 2100 is also a guess. The calorie-out part of the equation is where the "everyone is different" comes into play. She will have to pick an estimated TDEE for a starting point and make adjustments based on progress.

And I wouldn't have said anything at all had you been polite to FFF in the first place. There was no call to be rude.

Bahahaha :laugh: Thank you WendyTerry420 for acknowledging Jonnythan's condescending demeanor. Glad I'm not the only one who notices! He has it out to get me.

I don't think he's out to get you personally. He just needs to learn how to be polite. Some people have an incessant need to be The One with the answers, as if no one else knows how to plug numbers into an internet calculator.

And it's true that all TDEE calculators are estimates. When I first started, all the calculators were saying that my TDEE was around 2100, but after several months of meticulous tracking, my actual TDEE turned out to be about 2500. The calculators are based on averages, so they can be very close for most people, but can also be outrageously wrong for outliers.

OK.

I estimate your average TDEE is around 2100 per day.

WOW! Yeah, that's such a huge difference from 2086. Good thing you stepped up and corrected FatFreeFrolicking. Those extra 14 calories could cause OP to JSF.

Congratulations to FFF for her lucky guess that the OP has a sedentary lifestyle?

Yep, lucky she knows how to read and use a TDEE calculator, I guess. :laugh:

You're laughing, but it really is simply luck that her number was close to a decent best guess.

If OP had turned out to be a nurse, factory worker, daycare worker, or some other job that has her on her feet for hours a day then 2086 would have been a dramatic underestimation.

This is not a point you can argue, nor is it worth arguing.,

The funny part is that *all* the calculators are just an estimate to begin with, so 2100 is also a guess. The calorie-out part of the equation is where the "everyone is different" comes into play. She will have to pick an estimated TDEE for a starting point and make adjustments based on progress.

And I wouldn't have said anything at all had you been polite to FFF in the first place. There was no call to be rude.

Bahahaha :laugh: Thank you WendyTerry420 for acknowledging Jonnythan's condescending demeanor. Glad I'm not the only one who notices! He has it out to get me.

I don't think he's out to get you personally. He just needs to learn how to be polite. Some people have an incessant need to be The One with the answers, as if no one else knows how to plug numbers into an internet calculator.

And it's true that all TDEE calculators are estimates. When I first started, all the calculators were saying that my TDEE was around 2100, but after several months of meticulous tracking, my actual TDEE turned out to be about 2500. The calculators are based on averages, so they can be very close for most people, but can also be outrageously wrong for outliers.

Sometimes, giving someone advice on how much to eat and how to combat fatigue covers more information than plugging height, weight, age, and number of times they exercise per week into an online calculator.

FWIW, I think the online calculators are mostly worthless. The only ones I use are BMR estimators. From there I do the rest of the calculation manually.

OK.

I estimate your average TDEE is around 2100 per day.

WOW! Yeah, that's such a huge difference from 2086. Good thing you stepped up and corrected FatFreeFrolicking. Those extra 14 calories could cause OP to JSF.

Congratulations to FFF for her lucky guess that the OP has a sedentary lifestyle?

Yep, lucky she knows how to read and use a TDEE calculator, I guess. :laugh:

You're laughing, but it really is simply luck that her number was close to a decent best guess.

If OP had turned out to be a nurse, factory worker, daycare worker, or some other job that has her on her feet for hours a day then 2086 would have been a dramatic underestimation.

This is not a point you can argue, nor is it worth arguing.,

The funny part is that *all* the calculators are just an estimate to begin with, so 2100 is also a guess. The calorie-out part of the equation is where the "everyone is different" comes into play. She will have to pick an estimated TDEE for a starting point and make adjustments based on progress.

And I wouldn't have said anything at all had you been polite to FFF in the first place. There was no call to be rude.

Bahahaha :laugh: Thank you WendyTerry420 for acknowledging Jonnythan's condescending demeanor. Glad I'm not the only one who notices! He has it out to get me.

I don't think he's out to get you personally. He just needs to learn how to be polite. Some people have an incessant need to be The One with the answers, as if no one else knows how to plug numbers into an internet calculator.

And it's true that all TDEE calculators are estimates. When I first started, all the calculators were saying that my TDEE was around 2100, but after several months of meticulous tracking, my actual TDEE turned out to be about 2500. The calculators are based on averages, so they can be very close for most people, but can also be outrageously wrong for outliers.

Sometimes, giving someone advice on how much to eat and how to combat fatigue covers more information than plugging height, weight, age, and number of times they exercise per week into an online calculator.

FWIW, I think the online calculators are mostly worthless. The only ones I use are BMR estimators. From there I do the rest of the calculation manually.

OK.

I estimate your average TDEE is around 2100 per day.

WOW! Yeah, that's such a huge difference from 2086. Good thing you stepped up and corrected FatFreeFrolicking. Those extra 14 calories could cause OP to JSF.

Congratulations to FFF for her lucky guess that the OP has a sedentary lifestyle?

Yep, lucky she knows how to read and use a TDEE calculator, I guess. :laugh:

You're laughing, but it really is simply luck that her number was close to a decent best guess.

If OP had turned out to be a nurse, factory worker, daycare worker, or some other job that has her on her feet for hours a day then 2086 would have been a dramatic underestimation.

This is not a point you can argue, nor is it worth arguing.,

The funny part is that *all* the calculators are just an estimate to begin with, so 2100 is also a guess. The calorie-out part of the equation is where the "everyone is different" comes into play. She will have to pick an estimated TDEE for a starting point and make adjustments based on progress.

And I wouldn't have said anything at all had you been polite to FFF in the first place. There was no call to be rude.

Bahahaha :laugh: Thank you WendyTerry420 for acknowledging Jonnythan's condescending demeanor. Glad I'm not the only one who notices! He has it out to get me.

I don't think he's out to get you personally. He just needs to learn how to be polite. Some people have an incessant need to be The One with the answers, as if no one else knows how to plug numbers into an internet calculator.

And it's true that all TDEE calculators are estimates. When I first started, all the calculators were saying that my TDEE was around 2100, but after several months of meticulous tracking, my actual TDEE turned out to be about 2500. The calculators are based on averages, so they can be very close for most people, but can also be outrageously wrong for outliers.

Sometimes, giving someone advice on how much to eat and how to combat fatigue covers more information than plugging height, weight, age, and number of times they exercise per week into an online calculator.

FWIW, I think the online calculators are mostly worthless. The only ones I use are BMR estimators. From there I do the rest of the calculation manually.

Guess what- you aren't the only one who is capable of giving advice on how much to eat and how to combat fatigue. Considering I'm a diagnosed insomniac based on my sleep study results, I am more than qualified to give OP suggestions.

Considering I'm a diagnosed insomniac based on my sleep study results, I am more than qualified to give OP suggestions.

There are no words. Being an insomniac qualifies you to give advice to someone who is sleeping too much.

Priceless and typical.

Considering I'm a diagnosed insomniac based on my sleep study results, I am more than qualified to give OP suggestions.

There are no words. Being an insomniac qualifies you to give advice to someone who is sleeping too much.

Priceless and typical.

Uhh, OP is battling fatigue. Because I don't sleep well, I also battle extreme fatigue. There was a point in my life where I didn't have insomnia and instead would sleep for 12+ hours and still have extreme fatigue. I meet with my sleep specialist frequently and learn tons of information from him- regarding both sides (insomnia and sleeping too much).