super high heart rate and fainting

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  • efink85
    efink85 Posts: 19 Member
    Do you wear a heart rate monitor or a mp3 player strapped to your arm? It could be too tight. My dad had this same problem, he thought he was having a heart attack but it turned out he had over tightened his mp3 player so it wouldn't fall off while he was running at the gym.
  • bciloveme2014
    bciloveme2014 Posts: 213 Member
    Definitely go to a different doctor. Sometimes people have to go to several different doctors before one of them can figure it out!! Sadly doctors are just people too lol :(




    This.
    I work in a Hospital, I know a lots of doctors and even them sometimes recommend to look for a second opinion. I always pay for a PPO medical insurance so I can see a physician without referral. What you have is very serious and lowering your calories is not the answer. I am a woman and your weight is same as mine and a lot of people already said and that I am skinny. Also ask for blood work too.
  • CipherZero
    CipherZero Posts: 1,418 Member
    Get your dumb *kitten* to a cardiologist, today. Not tomorrow, not when you have time, NOW.

    You'll ask for both a 3D sonogram and a 24-48 hour monitoring device.

    Your solution is in one of those.

    Or, keep doing what you're doing, and when you inevitably stop logging on it'll be because your heart exploded under the strain.

    Your call.
  • LassoOfTruth
    LassoOfTruth Posts: 735 Member
    Um, eat!

    Food is our friend.
  • GeordieGirl80s
    GeordieGirl80s Posts: 120 Member
    Hi, I won't go into your diet choice but I say definitely see your doctor/s again. In March 2013 at the age of 32 I blacked out while walking, went to A&E because my ankle swelled up really badly but they were more worried about why I had blacked out, long story short - I was diagnosed with Atrial Flutter, I quickly deteriorated & spent 9 months of last year housebound because the smallest amount of exertion sent my heart rate sky high, made my lips turn blue & would have me on the edge of fainting (what happens is that your hearts electrical signal that tells it to beat re-fires too soon, ie while beat 1 is still travelling round the heart beat 2 is triggered etc etc) I had what is called a Radio-Frequency Ablation in Nov & a small device fitted which monitors my heart rate. I hope this helps & I hope your doctor/s find the cause of and treat your problem soon.
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    I had chest pains a few years ago that freaked me out. Anything that involved increased adrenaline brought it on. It ended up to be something like acid reflux. It didn't feel like that. It felt like heart problems. But testing showed that my heart was fine. The doctor tried me first on diazepam (valium) daily for a month, which reduced my problems but didn't get rid of them. Then we tried Zantac twice a day for a month and that finally got rid of the pains completely. Coffee, alcohol, fatty foods and stress can bring them back. Good luck.
  • rbiss
    rbiss Posts: 422 Member
    Your previous chest pains and your current fainting problems might be unrelated.

    At 700 calories, your body is starving. There is such a thing as starvation mode, not saying you won't loose weight, but there are very serious side effects. Your body needs food to survive. A lot of your new symptoms sound like severe iron deficiency which can be caused by a low calorie diet. Iron is stored, and even if you eat enough, sometimes it can't be adsorbed. If your starving your body and your iron stores are depleted, it was definitely cause what you are talking about.

    Please start eating more food. It might not help the chest pain, but it will help what your experiencing now. And you might be doing further damage to your heart if you stay low calorie.

    I'm sorry, I don't have any ideas about the chest pain. I was getting weird chest pain but I am positive it was related to my posture. It went away as quickly as it came on. Sometimes the problem isn't where you think it is. If your heart tests are okay, then the pain feels like its in your chest but caused by something else.
  • MeganAnne89
    MeganAnne89 Posts: 271 Member
    The best solution would be to see your doctor again and tell them to explore more options, or go see another doctor for a second opinion. I'm sure we've all seen The Biggest Loser where they start to exercise and they work themselves too hard and they end up passing out - but they're all seriously obese. If you were very obese I wouldn't necessarily be as concerned about what you're saying, but because you were never obese in the first place, this doesn't make sense to me (obviously keep in mind that I am not a doctor).

    The pain in the left side of your chest though sounds like my asthma. When I get asthma pains it's generally concentrated on the left side, although sometimes it can be on the right, but it's not normally. I'll get pains that are sort of hard to describe. it kind of feels like the pain is branching out from somewhere and spreading across the side of my chest. There's nothing that I can do for it other than take my inhaler and breathe through my nose and that generally helps. Asthma would also make a bit of sense because when you exercise, a lot of people do not continue to breath properly. Asthmatics already have issue with getting oxygen throughout their body so when we exercise, we have to be more careful that we're breathing through our nose and focusing on getting enough air in. And because of that, my heart rate tends to shoot up while exercises more than other peoples'. However, my heart rate generally spikes to maybe 150 and then it normally doesn't go higher than that. Here's some info from WebMD:

    During normal breathing, the air we take in is first warmed and moistened by the nasal passages. Because people tend to breathe through their mouths when they exercise, they are inhaling colder and drier air.

    In exercise-induced asthma, the muscle bands around the airways are sensitive to these changes in temperature and humidity and react by contracting, which narrows the airway. This results in symptoms of exercised-induced asthma, which include:
    Coughing with asthma
    Tightening of the chest
    Wheezing
    Unusual fatigue while exercising
    Shortness of breath when exercising


    But arrhythmia also sounds like a possibility. There are certain symptoms of that that can overlap with symptoms of asthma.

    And of course, you should definitely be eating more food to fuel your workouts. Regardless of if it's happened before, it's clearly contributing to your symptoms from this morning.
  • BookMaven79
    BookMaven79 Posts: 41
    - cardiologist and a myriad of tests, including monitoring for several days to weeks
    - endocrinologist
    - chiropractor (when my back is out of place, my heart rate goes sky high. Adjustment, and it's fine again)
    - consider panic attacks/anxiety
    - have you had your blood sugar levels tested?
    - do you have symptoms of GERD?
    - you need to eat
  • rbiss
    rbiss Posts: 422 Member
    RN here...a few thoughts:

    Start by eating more calories and cutting out the exercise. Walk if you must exercises.
    Call your doctor back, see a different doctor, or go to the ER next time it happens. Get a referral for a cardiologist (heart doctor). Chest pain has been ongoing...seen a cardiologist? Had an exercise stress test? EKG's are just snapshots of what your heart is doing AT THAT MOMENT. Exercise Stress Tests - you get on a treadmill and exercise while they watch your heart - fail it and they have a few options - usually an IV med to stress your heart and/or a heart cath. Since you're fit enough that you shouldn't fail the Exercise Stress Test, I'm guessing they'd want a heart cath. Dude, you got SOMETHING going on with your heart.

    Again, eat something...'normal' people might not get sick from cutting calories that severely BRIEFLY, but YOU have some underlying problem. NO ONE should be passing out or feeling fainthearted, and NO ONE can sustain a heart rate above 160 - eventually something is going to give.

    (and this doesn't sound like Afib to me. A fib is more irregular than what he is experiencing).

    I work out with my heartrate 170-180 all the time. Heart rates are relative.
  • Sun_Wukong
    Sun_Wukong Posts: 131
    Get your dumb *kitten* to a cardiologist, today. Not tomorrow, not when you have time, NOW.

    You'll ask for both a 3D sonogram and a 24-48 hour monitoring device.

    Your solution is in one of those.

    Or, keep doing what you're doing, and when you inevitably stop logging on it'll be because your heart exploded under the strain.

    Your call.
    QFT^

    Asap!! you are risking having a heart attack, stroke, death etc

    Also pay heed to eating more but yes seek medical attention straight away...stress test and a halter monitor are excellent suggestions to start with since you said exercise exasperates the problem. A Combined stress/ Rest Myocardial perfusion and carotid doppler ultrasound and even a brain CT/MRI wouldn't go astray.

    I am aware you said you have had tests, blood work, xrays etc done but till you get a diagnosis you have to persist! Don't accept "huh" from the specialist, get more tests done till you find out the cause.

    If you can't do it for yourself than do it for the ones you love, if you had a child with the condition you describe would you be so nonchalant...doubtful.

    And for Christ's sake don't self diagnose and try to eat properly

    ETA: I don't promote seeking medical advice on here because people have varying opinions and are rarely professionals and even if they were they are not privy to your tests results, charts, levels, family history etc so most opinions are moot and if you take the wrong advice it may prove to be fatal!!...that being said I am glad you posted because maybe you will seek further medical attention and also start eating properly
  • richardheath
    richardheath Posts: 1,276 Member
    Listen to what people are saying here.

    You are down to 151 lb. I don't know your height, but for most males, that isn't overweight, so eat more. If severe calorie restriction is possibly contributing to this condition, or complicating it, why keep on doing it? Go up to maintenance calorie levels while you figure this out. You can always cut again later (at a more moderate level) but heart stuff is SERIOUS BUSINESS. People die from stuff like this. Even relatively healthy 33 year old males.

    Then go back to your Doctor. Find a new Doctor. Get a referral to a specialist. Whatever you need to do. Get the exercise stress test and other things others here have suggested. I had one episode of (what was later diagnosed as) vasovagal syncope (basically, just fainting) a couple of years back, and my Dr was all over the testing to try and figure out what was going on and to make sure I was OK. EKG, stress test, blood work... just for passing out one time. If I did it again, I'm sure I would end up in a hospital with all sorts of tubes being stuck into me, but I'm OK with that. I would want them to!

    This is your health - your life, quite possibly. You have to be your own advocate here, so push for what you need. Don't leave the Drs office until you have a plan for how you are going to figure this out.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Sorry, to clarify it comes on like chest pains then heart rate rise and faint. Not a lack of nutrition feeling dizzy.

    Uhm what?? Start eating more and go see a doctor - or start planning your funeral.... Really - how much more warning do you need???

    I thank you for your concern, but 4 months ago I was 180lbs (now 151) and couldn't go 30 mins without feeling faint (chest pains were always bad. I can see what you are all saying bad need to eat more etc.. But this is an ongoing thing that started after huge weight gain.

    Sounds like tachycardia - get thee back to a cardiologist! And request a stress test. They will monitor your heart while you are exercising which will enable them to capture an episode like you described.

    http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tachycardia/basics/symptoms/con-20043012
  • laynerich15
    laynerich15 Posts: 1,918 Member
    Than you so much for the information guys. I am going to go see my doctor after taking notes.

    It has been to long dealing with this, I will be the first person to increase my food level and work out harder once I know what is going on.
  • HappyHope0123
    HappyHope0123 Posts: 101 Member
    RN here...a few thoughts:

    Start by eating more calories and cutting out the exercise. Walk if you must exercises.
    Call your doctor back, see a different doctor, or go to the ER next time it happens. Get a referral for a cardiologist (heart doctor). Chest pain has been ongoing...seen a cardiologist? Had an exercise stress test? EKG's are just snapshots of what your heart is doing AT THAT MOMENT. Exercise Stress Tests - you get on a treadmill and exercise while they watch your heart - fail it and they have a few options - usually an IV med to stress your heart and/or a heart cath. Since you're fit enough that you shouldn't fail the Exercise Stress Test, I'm guessing they'd want a heart cath. Dude, you got SOMETHING going on with your heart.

    Again, eat something...'normal' people might not get sick from cutting calories that severely BRIEFLY, but YOU have some underlying problem. NO ONE should be passing out or feeling fainthearted, and NO ONE can sustain a heart rate above 160 - eventually something is going to give.

    (and this doesn't sound like Afib to me. A fib is more irregular than what he is experiencing).

    I work out with my heartrate 170-180 all the time. Heart rates are relative.

    Sustain - as in it doesn't come down. His comes down when he stops exercising. I'm guessing if he continued to work out when his heartrate is high and he's feeling like passing out, he'd actually pass out. You aren't symptomatic with your heartrate 170-180 (not feeling like passing out).
  • laynerich15
    laynerich15 Posts: 1,918 Member
    Oh tests done so far

    ecg stress test
    eco stress test
    x-ray's
    Ultra sound of heart and lungs
    blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
    had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain

    all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
  • laynerich15
    laynerich15 Posts: 1,918 Member
    now during my ecg stress test I had a episode and had to be seen to. my doctor ignored the results. eg to me it must not be important
  • amykluver
    amykluver Posts: 184 Member
    I think everyone is saying (not to harp on your diet further) but the lack of nutrition going into your body is stressful to the heart. Anorexics often have heart damage due to this very thing. (OK - off the diet thing).

    I see in your list of tests you have NOT worn a 48-hour heart monitor. I suggest that and do a workout while you have it on. I have DYSAUTONOMIA where my blood pressure drops but my heart rate increases resulting ins syncope (fainting - or near fainting). This is a "short circuit" in my autonomic nervous system - and apparently I've had it all my life but it wasn't diagnosed (or really giving me problems) until after my 1st child was born (I was 31 y/o). I had to wear a monitor and walked up a hill and my BP dropped and my heart rate increased, and I almost passed out. That's when they saw it and diagnosed me. Medications, minor diet changes (I was told to eat more salt and increase my water intake to balance the increased salt) and time helped it subside (It never goes away, it just goes into a "remission" type state). Oh - and it was the Heart Center (cardiology) that got me the monitor to wear.

    Good luck!
  • A lack of nutrients can cause high heart rate. Heart is a muscle also, your body will turn to muscle for fuel if your not consuming enough calories. Thyroid problems can also speed up HR, I know because it happens to me. Good luck ,glad your trying to figure it out.
  • Sun_Wukong
    Sun_Wukong Posts: 131
    Oh tests done so far

    ecg stress test
    eco stress test
    x-ray's
    Ultra sound of heart and lungs
    blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
    had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain

    all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
    Sorry mate even though our government likes to brag about how great our medical system and doctors are here I can imagine the run around you got...

    -Presented at hospital with chest pains,result: blood-work, ECG, X-ray clear so you were sent home with a referral to your GP for a follow up with a Cardiologist...probably told you are too young for heart problems.

    -Waited for a surprising long time for Cardiologist appointment (if you saw one) had stress tests, ultra sound etc done now you had to wait for the results to go back to your GP.

    - Cardiologist's report says to GP their is nothing wrong with your heart, GP probably reassures you there is nothing wrong since a trained professional has put it on paper and sent it to his office.

    -You leave feeling both relieved and confused as you know the problem has not abated but tests that have been done says you are in the clear.

    Sound familiar? On going problem needs ongoing diagnostic tests and hopefully treatment, good luck in Canada!

    I reiterate get more opinions, tests etc eat properly and hold off on the exercise till you have seen a medical professional.
  • MeganAnne89
    MeganAnne89 Posts: 271 Member
    now during my ecg stress test I had a episode and had to be seen to. my doctor ignored the results. eg to me it must not be important

    I always tell people to get a second opinion when they're worried about something. I'm not trying to insult your physician but maybe they were wrong in ignoring it.
  • Sun_Wukong
    Sun_Wukong Posts: 131
    now during my ecg stress test I had a episode and had to be seen to. my doctor ignored the results. eg to me it must not be important
    Sounds about right! f%$ken medical system here has become a joke! (Australia)
  • laynerich15
    laynerich15 Posts: 1,918 Member
    Oh tests done so far

    ecg stress test
    eco stress test
    x-ray's
    Ultra sound of heart and lungs
    blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
    had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain

    all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
    Sorry mate even though our government likes to brag about how great our medical system and doctors are here I can imagine the run around you got...

    -Presented at hospital with chest pains,result: blood-work, ECG, X-ray clear so you were sent home with a referral to your GP for a follow up with a Cardiologist...probably told you are too young for heart problems.

    -Waited for a surprising long time for Cardiologist appointment (if you saw one) had stress tests, ultra sound etc done now you had to wait for the results to go back to your GP.

    - Cardiologist's report says to GP their is nothing wrong with your heart, GP probably reassures you there is nothing wrong since a trained professional has put it on paper and sent it to his office.

    -You leave feeling both relieved and confused as you know the problem has not abated but tests that have been done says you are in the clear.

    Sound familiar? On going problem needs ongoing diagnostic tests and hopefully treatment, good luck in Canada!

    I reiterate get more opinions, tests etc eat properly and hold off on the exercise till you have seen a medical professional.

    This is almost exactly how it happened.

    Sadly I am not the only one then. It gets to a point were you say F&*k it I will try just fix it myself
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Oh tests done so far

    ecg stress test
    eco stress test
    x-ray's
    Ultra sound of heart and lungs
    blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
    had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain

    all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
    Sorry mate even though our government likes to brag about how great our medical system and doctors are here I can imagine the run around you got...

    -Presented at hospital with chest pains,result: blood-work, ECG, X-ray clear so you were sent home with a referral to your GP for a follow up with a Cardiologist...probably told you are too young for heart problems.

    -Waited for a surprising long time for Cardiologist appointment (if you saw one) had stress tests, ultra sound etc done now you had to wait for the results to go back to your GP.

    - Cardiologist's report says to GP their is nothing wrong with your heart, GP probably reassures you there is nothing wrong since a trained professional has put it on paper and sent it to his office.

    -You leave feeling both relieved and confused as you know the problem has not abated but tests that have been done says you are in the clear.

    Sound familiar? On going problem needs ongoing diagnostic tests and hopefully treatment, good luck in Canada!

    I reiterate get more opinions, tests etc eat properly and hold off on the exercise till you have seen a medical professional.

    This is almost exactly how it happened.

    Sadly I am not the only one then. It gets to a point were you say F&*k it I will try just fix it myself

    Sticking with a doctor who ignored an event during testing and your self diagnosis/treatment are both idiotic decisions.
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
    Here's something scary to check for: Aortic dissection.


    It can not be detected by regular heart tests, is mainly caused by crap genetics (Marfan syndrome), and is notorious for killing otherwise young, healthy people who have unexplained angina (chest pain) I'd stop working out, starving myself and get tested for this.

    Good luck!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,043 Member
    700 calories? And you workout? Sorry man, but there's a reason why people who eat like this and over exercise die of heart complications. Your view of how to lose fat and get fit are skewed.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    It was a plan to try get rid of the body fat that caused it in the first place. with 6 months of tests and no results it seemed like it was worth a try. now this is not a long term plan
    Eating and working out this way will eat up more lean muscle than fat and losing that muscle will only lower your metabolic rate even more.
    Start by just eating your BMR daily for a month. Then reassess. Let's do this the safe way.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • jescamp9481
    jescamp9481 Posts: 126 Member
    have you had all your micro-nutrients checked by the doctor, I had several episodes of tachycardia (unexplained high heart rate) and it turned out to be a magnesium difficiency, apparently magnesium regulates muscle function including the heart. Just a suggestion3


    side note: if you start to take magnesium or you get a bag full at the hospital your poop WILL turn green, please do not be alarmed, I surely was!!!
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    Based on what you are experiencing, have you had a coronary calcium scan to check for any blockage/placque?

    I would request one ASAP - even if you have to pay for it.


    Hello all.

    So I know this might not be the place to get medical advice but no harm in trying.

    Pretty simple question that doctors can’t seem to answer, I am a somewhat healthy 33 year old, but over the last few years I have been having constant chest pains on my left hand side (stick with me this becomes about working out I swear). Have had my heart and lungs tested and everything seems to come back ok.

    Now for why I am here, I keep passing out during my workouts and my heart rate goes through the roof (191bpm). Then light headed and down I go. I have always been a runner so for this to happen seems weird to say the least. I thought I was ok(chest pains lessening but seem controllable with diet) then this happened again this morning. Now I was doing a very brisk walk at 6.8kph for 50mins. Weird part of this morning is once I realized it was happening I jumped of the tread mill and my heart rate dropped back to 92bpm in about 30 seconds.

    Any help would be well appreciated.
  • Rogiefreida
    Rogiefreida Posts: 567 Member
    Get your dumb *kitten* to a cardiologist, today. Not tomorrow, not when you have time, NOW.

    You'll ask for both a 3D sonogram and a 24-48 hour monitoring device.

    Your solution is in one of those.

    Or, keep doing what you're doing, and when you inevitably stop logging on it'll be because your heart exploded under the strain.

    Your call.

    QFT, in case it hasn't been made abundantly clear to you OP that you need to go see a Dr. There are a lot of reasons why it could happen.

    I had issues with this at 18-19 years old and went through a myriad of tests and found a minor issue with my heart and it's electrical signals. They found it via the 48 hour monitoring with a portable EKG. It only came on when I decided that eating was for wimps with no will power (my super mature train of thought at 18) and tried eating as little as possible while running 5 miles a day.
    When I started eating more, the symptoms stopped. But seriously, go see a Dr. and try eating at maintenance. What happened to me or anyone else will not necessarily explain what's happening to you.
  • laynerich15
    laynerich15 Posts: 1,918 Member
    Again thank you for all the advice people.

    I am still pretty new to North America so waiting for my medical insurance to kick in. will go see a GP as soon a possible then start the testing all over again.

    at least I have a bunch of possible problems it could be to ask the GP