3 weeks dieting and not a lb lost - check my diary?

excellent diary.

could try eating at TDEE - 20% and logging exercise as 1 calorie burned only.

Not sure your numbers, but perhaps will make a difference.

Try Scooby's workshop:

http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/

alrighty the whole "starvation mode" is total crap. Starvation mode is when you're so skinny that you barely have any muscle so you're not burning any calories, and it needs every single calorie to do basic bodily function. This comes from a gradual metabolic adjustment to that low weight, but by the time you actually got to "starvation mode" you'd be well underweight.

Welcome! You are absolutely correct.

you're right. If this week still has no results then Ill try and find my maintenance through trial and error. Ill eat 2000 for 3 weeks and see if I lose or gain. then ill adjust from there till I find it.

You can do it.

ok. I am very convinced that my numbers on exercise are right or under what I am actually burning.

I think what Ill try (as per some great suggestions!) is to be SPOT ON with my calories this week. Ill eat exactly 1300-1550 everyday and will weigh my bananas/ect… Ill also cut out 1 tbs of nut butters. (I wanna cry at the thought of NO peanut butter haha) and Ill replace my post workout meals with whole foods. Although I'm not sure where to get the protein….I can eat berries for carbs but protein is a mystery to me as I can't handle protein powders as I am intolerant to artificial sweeteners (including stevia). I guess I can each a chicken breast lol although that sounds gross.

Ill see where that takes me. Anyone who is also curious/tagging this - message me sometime next week and Ill let you know how it went.

I don't feel safe cutting out more calories (as I got my metabolism tested a year ago and I burn 1950 calories a day at rest. So I know that my maintenance is anywhere from 1950-2250 without exercise. I also do not feel safe cutting out more carbs as I know that as a triathlete I should actually be eating 60% to maintain my high level/high intensity workouts. But I can look at where I am getting my carbs from….Ill replace with sweet potatoes/brown rice/whole grain bread this week and see how that goes.

This is what I'm starting to sense.

You have a bigger deficit than reasonable for only 10 lbs to lose, should be 1/2 lb weekly.
You underestimate several big calorie burns, probably creating an even bigger deficit.
You have massive training schedule.

Your RMR, if you were awake resting all day just like during the test, would be 1950 a day. You realize how much more than that you burn even without exercise, your maintenance is well above 1950 a day, way above with exercise included.

I think you have created a bigger deficit than you think, and at your huge training level have accelerated what can happen.

Just please try to adjust up, sadly starting on down side is going to be very difficult to do that.

Keep that 1500 net, but keep it accurate.

Also, for the calorie estimates, use this for running. More accurate than HRM if correct on the grade %. If you have any app that tells you total gain in feet, double that figure (unless you didn't go back down hill) / miles / 5280 * 100 = grade %. And select NET option for total amount to eat back. Gross is what any other HRM or database would tell you.
www.exrx.net/Calculators/WalkRunMETs.html

I think your other calorie burn methods are correct, but don't short the estimate thinking a bigger deficit there is better. It's not.
But what you do need to do with those burns, and since they are big this matters, is the same thing that NET option does above for running. It removes the RMR calories that would have happened anyway.
So 1950 / 24 = 81.25 calories removed from biking and swimming estimates per hour they are done.

I can't believe some aren't aware of the potential calorie burn from a fit athlete, light or not.

alrighty the whole "starvation mode" is total crap. Starvation mode is when you're so skinny that you barely have any muscle so you're not burning any calories, and it needs every single calorie to do basic bodily function. This comes from a gradual metabolic adjustment to that low weight, but by the time you actually got to "starvation mode" you'd be well underweight.

Would you consider taking a 25% deficit off lab measured sedentary TDEE for an obese person and having your body slow down from "starvation mode" or adaptive thermogenesis or metabolic efficiency or whatever you want to call it total crap?

Might want to see many new studies that are out disproving your assertion about what it takes to get it.

Now, if there are some effects you've heard go along with starvation mode that you think aren't true, those may indeed be myths. But you don't seem to be talking about those, merely the slowdown part you think isn't possible unless starving. And starving is not starvation mode, it's that and worse.

But your body burning less than it could otherwise by upwards of 20-25 % - totally true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i_cmltmQ6A

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/heybales/view/reduced-metabolism-tdee-beyond-expected-from-weight-loss-616251

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1077746-starvation-mode-adaptive-thermogenesis-and-weight-loss

And if there is a lack of appreciation for the fact it can happen without too much difficulty, then you can inadvertently be encouraging someone to grind their metabolism in to the ground.
While true, they will eventually lose again, and require eating 20-25% less calories than they need to, in the case of big training, or having so little calories be sustainable and adhere to them, and having maintenance suck big time, talk about a recipe for maintenance failure.

Wow thanks everyone for your help and input. I do weigh/measure things. I dont weight my banana - but i do put my pb in a tablespoon and scrap off the excess. I do weight my chicken/sweet potato ect...

at this point I have no problem depriving myself. ]

But Ill also note that I am so hungry all the time. I dont mean "oh i could eat." I mean weak anxious I cant concentrate starving. The thought of eating less makes me want to cry.

I am a stop motion animator as my job which means on my feet all day running around the studio crawling under tables and doing squats and stretches between shots Im not doing contractor work but its not sitting at a desk. I also walk my dog and hour every day and do abs or handstand work 10 minutes every other day that I dont log.

I dont even know how I have time for this all now that I see it written down.

I hope you didn't set your MFP activity level to sedentary then - no wonder you are feeling "hungry" all the time.
That is Lightly Active at minimum, with dog walk, Active if you don't want to log it.

I'm seeing more and more estimating much on the safe side, bigger deficits, that I don't think the small calorie differences in the food (a banana difference of 50 grams is only 44 calories), measured tblsp peanut butter is 35 more than weighed for instance. If you were doing a lot of those things, perhaps you could overcome a likely 700-800 cal deficit - but lets be real.

But your daily activity causing a maintenance well above your estimate 2000 with an RMR that was 1950, is big deficit already.

Yeah but then she eats above her targets. And come on, measuring vs weighing PB to account for negligible calories?? You've no idea if she's heaping the tablespoons or even just eye balling them. The point is to notice she's not using a scale all the time. The solution usually winds up being self correcting. Each individual quickly discovers for themselves that 400 calorie item they were guesstimating to be 50

I do agree with lightly active, etc.

I still think she's really little and at this stage just needs to fuel appropriately and exercise. The physical demands seem too much (in my lay opinion) to worry about weight loss right now

True, the impact to performance from this attempt I'm betting will outweigh (weigh! ha!) the benefits of less bodyfat or less weight even. I know 10 lbs can make a difference biking up a steep hill or running in general, but 10 extra lbs of float on the swim can be great benefit.

She did comment on peanut butter though, leveled off tablespoon, so 6 extra grams was generous on my part for difference between 40 gram measured and 34 g weight serving.
And that and banana is average once daily, merely pointing out the suggested difference of 50 grams being a big deal.

If there was a lot of oatmeal, cereal, granola cereal, other high fat items that pack a punch of calories for small quantity normally assigned, oh, like ice cream, then I could see a smallish deficit being eaten up.
But 500 cal, plus the auto deficit from incorrect activity level, plus the calorie burns being underestimated always, ehhhh, harder to see it happening.
If she has a VO2max of 55 or better, and doing those paces in the logs - those are some huge burns.

Indeed though, going over goal because of not surprisingly being very hungry, isn't good either.

Wow thanks everyone for your help and input. I do weigh/measure things. I dont weight my banana - but i do put my pb in a tablespoon and scrap off the excess. I do weight my chicken/sweet potato ect...

at this point I have no problem depriving myself. ]

But Ill also note that I am so hungry all the time. I dont mean "oh i could eat." I mean weak anxious I cant concentrate starving. The thought of eating less makes me want to cry.

I am a stop motion animator as my job which means on my feet all day running around the studio crawling under tables and doing squats and stretches between shots Im not doing contractor work but its not sitting at a desk. I also walk my dog and hour every day and do abs or handstand work 10 minutes every other day that I dont log.

I dont even know how I have time for this all now that I see it written down.

I hope you didn't set your MFP activity level to sedentary then - no wonder you are feeling "hungry" all the time.
That is Lightly Active at minimum, with dog walk, Active if you don't want to log it.

I'm seeing more and more estimating much on the safe side, bigger deficits, that I don't think the small calorie differences in the food (a banana difference of 50 grams is only 44 calories), measured tblsp peanut butter is 35 more than weighed for instance. If you were doing a lot of those things, perhaps you could overcome a likely 700-800 cal deficit - but lets be real.

But your daily activity causing a maintenance well above your estimate 2000 with an RMR that was 1950, is big deficit already.

you get it!!!!!!! finally someone who understands. And also understands how wrong some of these others are haha.

Guess how you would know if we were wrong? Hint: your thread wouldn't exist

And on another note, Something's not right here. I hate that an athlete working out so much still has to be so hungry all the time. There's gotta be a better way!