New study - diet soda better than water for weight loss

alpha_andy
alpha_andy Posts: 160 Member
The results of a new study published in the journal Obesity imply that diet soda is a more effective weight loss tool than water. The findings are controversial, and what is more, the study was funded by the American Beverage Association.

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  • nnix64
    nnix64 Posts: 21 Member
    Well it does fill me up so I can't eat. I guess that is something positive? lol
  • MsValerieAnne
    MsValerieAnne Posts: 90 Member
    I don't drink soda (regular or diet) and haven't in over 2 years now. One of the reasons I stopped drinking it was because I heard it would help lose weight. I can say, it has not effected my weight loss at all (in either direction). I didn't really gain weight drinking soda and I haven't lost any since I stopped drinking it.
  • booksgiver
    booksgiver Posts: 147 Member
    I had to chuckle when I read who funded the study. I'm not buying it.
  • kendall916
    kendall916 Posts: 4,222 Member
    Definitely not buying it! :noway:
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Don't really care since I don't drink it, but I find it funny when people dismiss studies by the funding source. Dismissing by funding source alone is usually the first sign that someone doesn't really understand the science involved

    http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v38/n5/full/ijo201432a.html
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    I find diet soda disgusting so this supposed study is irrelevant to me haha
  • scarlettesong
    scarlettesong Posts: 108 Member
    You know, except for the headaches I get from fake sugars, and the fact that I feel lethargic if I drink diet soda like I do water.
  • nyiballs
    nyiballs Posts: 147 Member
    In related news, apparently 50% of MFP users have no sense of facetiousness.
  • Emmandaline
    Emmandaline Posts: 10 Member
    Honestly, to me water tastes better. Diet soda isn't worth it to me. If I want soda, I'll go out and buy the real thing! My policy is everything in moderation. It's working so far!
    Besides, what about all those scientific studies about how soda will make you hungrier/ cause health problems due to weird chemicals?
  • sm1zzle
    sm1zzle Posts: 920 Member
    That's like tobacco companies funding a study that says people are more likely to find a person sexually attractive if they smoke.
  • PinkyFett
    PinkyFett Posts: 842 Member
    In related news, apparently 50% of MFP users have no sense of facetiousness.


    I'd say more than that..:brokenheart:
  • Onderwoman
    Onderwoman Posts: 130
    I don't really care because I don't drink it. But I find it funny when people don't rate studies lower because of a biased funding source. Not lowering validity because of funding source shows they really don't understand how studies are done and that funding sources with power over the study completion and an axe to grind tend to bias the results of the study and how it is put together. :)
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    Do these diet sodas have caffeine in them?
  • goldthistime
    goldthistime Posts: 3,213 Member
    In related news, apparently 50% of MFP users have no sense of facetiousness.


    I'd say more than that..:brokenheart:

    If you are suggesting that the OP just made this up for the fun of it...

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140527085124.htm
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    The study was funded by the ABA, but they had no participation in the study or its findings, and the article was peer-reviewed.

    I stopped drinking diet soda around Thanksgiving 2013, and other than nasty caffeine withdrawal symptoms, it has had no effect on my weight loss (did not stop drinking because of weight, but other factors). In the last week I've started adding it back in, usually in the early afternoon when I hit a slump. The caffeine boosts my energy enough that I don't end up snacking to stay awake, and it fulfills my craving for something sweet. I still drink plenty of water.
  • PinkyFett
    PinkyFett Posts: 842 Member
    In related news, apparently 50% of MFP users have no sense of facetiousness.


    I'd say more than that..:brokenheart:

    If you are suggesting that the OP just made this up for the fun of it...


    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140527085124.htm

    I saw a post about it. It's stupid. I'm sure, hoping, op posted to stir the pot.
  • amwbox
    amwbox Posts: 576 Member
    It makes sense if you think about it. They are both zero calorie, but diet pop still needs to be processed at least somewhat, which costs energy, while water is pretty much a direct pass through.

    Also, it satisfies urges for sweet things.

    Perfectly logical. I can't think of any reason why water would be more useful in terms of pure weight loss.

    Diet pop is unfairly maligned.
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
    Don't really care since I don't drink it, but I find it funny when people dismiss studies by the funding source. Dismissing by funding source alone is usually the first sign that someone doesn't really understand the science involved

    http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v38/n5/full/ijo201432a.html

    Unfortunately, eric--what the article doesn't discuss is the number of "scientists" who are willing to prostitute themselves for always just a little bit more funding. Science isn't what it used to be when the vast majority of funding came from non-commercial interests. Sorry to disillusion you but the deep pockets rule in the realm of medical science today--probably not so much in other fields of science. Although I had a Ph.D. in chemistry once say to me that, "For the right amount of funding, the question often becomes, 'What do you want this study to show?' " Believe that for the few who are caught there are many others who get away with it--until the next study comes along that appears to contradict that study. And then no one knows what to believe. :frown:
  • alpha_andy
    alpha_andy Posts: 160 Member
    Diet soda sales have been plummeting. Explains why industry would pay for this study.

    Still wondering if the study is flawed in any way, with regard to methodology, etc.
  • Rocky791
    Rocky791 Posts: 52 Member
    Diet soda sales have been plummeting. Explains why industry would pay for this study.

    Still wondering if the study is flawed in any way, with regard to methodology, etc.

    I was just thinking the same thing - the sales have been hit by all of the negative press about the dangers of diet soda and this is an attempt to stop the bleeding so to speak. That being said, I do drink diet soda but try to limit it to one a day. I do find that it fills a craving and also makes me feel more full. I think many of the studies have found that drinking it can increase cravings for other sweet foods and therefore increase overall calorie consumption. That's where logging everything you eat on a daily basis can help to avoid that pitfall.
  • Rocky791
    Rocky791 Posts: 52 Member
    Don't really care since I don't drink it, but I find it funny when people dismiss studies by the funding source. Dismissing by funding source alone is usually the first sign that someone doesn't really understand the science involved

    http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v38/n5/full/ijo201432a.html

    Unfortunately, eric--what the article doesn't discuss is the number of "scientists" who are willing to prostitute themselves for always just a little bit more funding. Science isn't what it used to be when the vast majority of funding came from non-commercial interests. Sorry to disillusion you but the deep pockets rule in the realm of medical science today--probably not so much in other fields of science. Although I had a Ph.D. in chemistry once say to me that, "For the right amount of funding, the question often becomes, 'What do you want this study to show?' " Believe that for the few who are caught there are many others who get away with it--until the next study comes along that appears to contradict that study. And then no one knows what to believe. :frown:

    yep - where there is money there is corruption.
  • Swiftlet66
    Swiftlet66 Posts: 729 Member
    That's like tobacco companies funding a study that says people are more likely to find a person sexually attractive if they smoke.

    +1
  • Nedra19455
    Nedra19455 Posts: 241 Member
    It neither surprises me, nor changes my behavior. I don't interpret the study as saying that diet soda is better than water for weight loss, but rather that water alone isn't as good for weight loss as a variety of beverages. I skimmed the article, but was the total amount of fluids controlled for? It would not surprise me at all if the diet soda drinkers drank more fluids overall, since they were probably drinking soda AND water. And variety is the spice of life. If the control group was drinking fewer fluids than the soda group, then I am not surprised at all that they lost weight.

    It will make very little difference for most people. If you are a soda drinker, then you will probably keep drinking soda. If you think diet soda is gross, then you won't start drinking it now just because of this study. The only people who it will have an effect on are the people who were swayed by the (iffy) studies that came out awhile back saying that diet soda hinders weight loss.
  • TadaGanIarracht
    TadaGanIarracht Posts: 2,615 Member
    It isn't totally unfathomable.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    The results of a new study published in the journal Obesity imply that diet soda is a more effective weight loss tool than water. The findings are controversial, and what is more, the study was funded by the American Beverage Association.

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    Well, cancer does cause a loss of appetite...
  • Veryme
    Veryme Posts: 19 Member
    The answer is in your paragraph ( funding source). But also sweetener are really bad for insulin signaling. I am also not sure about bubbles and kidneys. You know, it is like smokers lose weight sometimes too. Who needs this? I drink soda one iin a 6 month or so.
  • mimi14fun
    mimi14fun Posts: 38 Member
    :noway:
  • I'm thinking it's total BS. My core beliefs about food and our bodies in general is that natural things are best. That being said, I love me some Coke Zero. Fill er' up!
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    I do find bubbly beverages fill me up so I sometimes have them instead of a snack. I usually pick a flavored sparkling water.
  • Michelle2W
    Michelle2W Posts: 163 Member
    I don't drink them. They can't be good for you!