The more I try to count my calories, the more I binge

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  • gotolam
    gotolam Posts: 262 Member
    Go to sleep.

    Oh man. I've tried this. I end up not being able to fall asleep because I'm thinking about the food that I never snacked on a night. So I get up, snack, and THEN I'm able to fall asleep. Otherwise, I lay in bed for hours. :'(

    Okay. I used to be just like you. Since my teenage years, I've had sleep problems. Early on (when I didn't ever care what i weighed) I got into the practice of eating a bowl of soup every night as a "snack" (It was prolly like 700 calories) and that helped me sleep. It was so bad that as recently as last year, I was still eating Ramen Noodles three or four times a week before going to bed. This has been going on the better part of the past twenty years. It got so I COULDN'T sleep without eating something.

    What I've found is that it's much easier to control my cravings in the morning than at night. By pushing back all of my meal times, I've been able to narrow the window between dinner and bedtime; which has significantly helped this problem.

    If you have supper with your family, don't forgo that. Just split your dinner. Eat half with your family and enjoy that time with them. Then after the dishes have been done, kids put away...eat the other half.
  • Rosamber
    Rosamber Posts: 2
    Must admit now that I am keeping a record of calories consumed every day I find am thinking about food far more often than before. I haven't binged yet and only keep healthy foods in the house so if I did have a craving then it wouldn't be serious. I have been entering food after I have eaten - maybe doing it once later in the day would help take my mind off it? I also agree with the ideas of having a glass of water or cleaning teeth or finding something to do.:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
  • Nix143
    Nix143 Posts: 522 Member
    Boring but lots and lots of protein leave me stuffed. And I drink gallons of decaf green tea in the evening. And there are NO snacks in the house. I've tried, moderation ISN'T my middle name just yet.

    Good luck.
  • MegE_N
    MegE_N Posts: 245 Member
    Must admit now that I am keeping a record of calories consumed every day I find am thinking about food far more often than before. I haven't binged yet and only keep healthy foods in the house so if I did have a craving then it wouldn't be serious. I have been entering food after I have eaten - maybe doing it once later in the day would help take my mind off it? I also agree with the ideas of having a glass of water or cleaning teeth or finding something to do.:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:

    I find I'm the same - I think about food far more than I ever did when I was gaining weight. But I find that it helps me. I check my pre-loaded diary throughout the day and jazz myself up - "If I can stick with this, it's going to be such a good day!" sort of thing.
  • Soggynode
    Soggynode Posts: 1,179 Member
    Boring but lots and lots of protein leave me stuffed. And I drink gallons of decaf green tea in the evening. And there are NO snacks in the house. I've tried, moderation ISN'T my middle name just yet.

    Good luck.

    Gotta agree with Nix143, the extra protein is what is knocking down my cravings. My cravings were not at night but mid-late mornings. I changed my breakfast from cereal, bread, etc... to meat and eggs. I can get to lunch without any difficulty at all now. I hadn't thought about decaf green tea... sounds like a good evening drink to try.
  • screwmenopause
    screwmenopause Posts: 170 Member
    Hi,
    saw your post. I get it - I was a binge eater too. it's hard to track calories, but do yourself a favor...a BIG favor...when you binge...write it down and calorie count EVERYTHING you ate. EVERYTHING. for me, seeing how it all adds up so quickly kept me honest w myself. Also, after you've logged your calories for the day....click "complete entry" at the bottom of your log. this tells you - "if you eat and exercise every day like you did today for the next 5 weeks you will weigh...". I over ate and didn't workout one day, I recorded everything anyway....when I hit the "complete entry" tab....it had me weighing what I weighed when I started MFP! ugh! that did it for me. that told me how these extra pounds added up over the past couple years and made me overweight.
    I hope that helps a little
    good luck!
    remember too....string a couple successful, clean eating days together and before you know it - BAM - you will be on the road to long term success :wink:
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    I do the same thing sometimes, although it has gotten much better lately. It's like being so aware of the calories used to make me freak out and eat randomly at the end of the day. Idk why. I did this at first, so I started making sure I had about 300 extra calories for after dinner. Then I would eat a quest bar, a fiber one brownie or something that felt like a treat but wasn't actually junk food later on that night when I had the urge to snack. I eventually got past it. It was just a mental thing.
  • shankasaurus
    shankasaurus Posts: 116 Member
    Following for the helpful advice.
  • jason_adams
    jason_adams Posts: 187 Member
    Late night eating is a problem for me. Due to my activity levels in my formative years, I was able to consume LOTS of food and not suffer for it. Different story now, but the "bedtime snack" is a habit that I struggle with constantly.

    Now when I want one, I drink another glass of water (I have a soda maker at home, so it's usually "fizzy" which makes it feel more like a treat), then get ready for bed and actively think of things that AREN'T that snack. That currently does the trick, every time.

    Other times, I too have gone to the store for treats. I'd buy them, bring them home and put them down and get busy with something else that would require my full focus (studying or playing games). I'd usually forget about the snack and put it away later on when I didn't want it anymore. If that failed, I ate it.

    If your craving is habitual, you can also plan for it. Just make sure you're actually eating enough food overall!
  • KSA10611
    KSA10611 Posts: 2 Member
    I have experienced this as well, I notice it more at work than at night. My office buys food, sodas, candy for the office on a regular basis. I do not buy this food for my own house and I normally do not crave it, but I would find myself "sneaking" a soda or a back of chips into my day. Once I started I had a hard time stopping. I was getting so frustrated with myself that I would end up eating more than I wanted. Then I watched Hungry for Change, a documentary on Netflix, and I learned a trick that I had never heard before. They state over and over again that weight loss and a life style change are geared by our natural instinct of feast or famine. We have been a perpetual state of feast and when we start telling ourselves we can't have something our body responds to that as famine. They suggest telling yourself "I can have this, but I do not want it." I have been using mantra for a while now and I notice my cravings are slowly dissipating and I am not snacking as much. Weight loss is a huge mental game and it is understanding how to speak to your body and mind that will help you get through the rough patches. Remember to focus on the small changes you notice rather than continually thinking about what you cannot have or what you might be missing. This is a struggle that is going to continue, try to learn what works for you and always know you aren't alone! Good luck.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    Make sure your calorie goal is appropriate for you and your activity level. And then work those late night cravings/snacks into your calorie goal.
  • SomeGirlSomewhere
    SomeGirlSomewhere Posts: 937 Member
    I have struggled with this same issue for years. What has been most helpful to me is to come to the realization that late at night is when I REALLY want to eat. And there is nothing wrong with that as long as I have the calories left for it. Now I eat very light during the so that I will have the calories available for whatever I might want to eat late at night.
  • caminoslo
    caminoslo Posts: 239 Member
    I am having a really hard time lately counting my calories. I'm entering all of them accurately, but the harder I try to meet my daily goal, the more I end up binging late at night. And it's not healthy snacks I'm having- high fat, high sugar, low quality packaged foods are what I seem to crave. For a few weeks I've really been trying to get my late-night eating in control, but the harder I try the more I give in.

    Has anyone experienced this and, if so, how did you combat it? Thanks!
    I stopped counting calories and started counting carbs and sugar. It works better
  • zavrrr
    zavrrr Posts: 27 Member
    I'm really bad about snacking when I'm bored. Something that has worked for me in the past is keeping some sort of healthy snack on hand (like apples), and telling myself that if I'm still "hungry" after I have that, THEN I can go eat the thing I'm craving. That will often satisfy me enough to stop the snacking. I don't respond very well to withholding things from myself - it works better for me psychologically to have something I'm required TO eat rather than NOT ALLOWED to eat, if that makes sense.

    The other thing that gets me into trouble sometimes though is getting in a cycle of craving something salty/savory, then sweet, then savory, then sweet, etc. That is the harder thing for me to stop, but it does still help to have healthier options in the house in both of these "categories" so that I'm less likely to run out and get an unhealthy option!

    That being said, it does seem like possibly you just aren't eating enough early in the day.
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  • amysj303
    amysj303 Posts: 5,086 Member
    Not sure if it would help, but maybe shoot for a weekly average? That really helped me, if I could plan a couple of high-cal days, I could manage the low ones better and I think the zig-zagging helped. For me, I have 2 days each week where I only have 900 cals, but then that gives me a couple of days where I can have an extra 500 cals in drinks and snacks...
  • kristinhowell
    kristinhowell Posts: 139 Member
    I have been collecting low-calorie sweets recipes (thank you, Pinterest) so that when I get my late night sweets cravings, I can take some time to bake a bit of food (because, really, who feels worse after baking?) and then be able to enjoy a treat as well. And there's usually leftovers, which are good for snacks and lazy nights that I don't feel like baking. A couple I've really enjoyed are chocolate chip meringue cookies, 22 calories each, and mini blueberry muffins, 89 calories each.

    Of course, it's way tempting to go for that huge piece of coconut cake that my parents have sitting in the fridge, but I feel more accomplished when I bake something myself, eat it, and get to know that it is not going to ruin my day. :-)

    As for counting calories making me want to binge, I feel that way at times. But I don't restrict myself. I used to, and let me tell you, when I fell off the bandwagon, I fell hard. I've learned to control my portions, especially since I usually do feel full after eating my smaller plate, even though I thought I needed all three of those pork chops I cooked. I also keep myself occupied - that tends to help with boredom eating and stress eating. Lots of little things help keep me on track, and I feel so proud when I stay on track. But, I also do no beat myself up when I'm not on track, because then I have a harder time getting back on it. Just have to stay positive!
  • Barbellarella_
    Barbellarella_ Posts: 454 Member
    The biggest thing that has helped me, is fitting food that I like into my calorie goal, so I don't feel at ALL deprived.

    If you start trying to eat perfectly all the time, you'll be trigged to binge the second you slip up. Black and white thinkers (all or nothing mindset) have the hardest time with this usually.
  • sympha01
    sympha01 Posts: 942 Member
    1. Consider raising your calorie allowance. Since you didn't state your calorie target and your diary's not open, I can't be terribly specific here, but a deficit of 500 calories might be a good moderate goal. If you are trying to lose weight FAST, remember that it just won't work if you're going to be so miserable from deprivation that you simply CAN'T adhere to your diet. Think big picture here.

    2. Consider re-adjusting your meal planning to have more calories at dinner / in the evening than in the morning. There's a myth that eating calories after a certain hour is more likely to lead to fat, but it's simply not true. Meal timing does not have a significant impact on metabolism. And even if it DID, again, it doesn't do you any good to try to optimize your metabolism to increase your effective daily burn 5% if it makes you increase your daily calorie intake by 20%, right?

    3. Do you pre-plan your day, or eat and log as you go? Consider pre-planning your day if you don't already, and specifically save calories all day to PLAN for a treat between dinner and bedtime. I wouldn't have made it as far as I have if I didn't plan for a 200-300 calorie treat at the end of the day. Having a piece of toast with a carefully measured tablespoon of peanut butter or a few squares of chocolate seems to send a signal to my brain "okay, you got a treat. happy? eating time is over and you can freaking RELAX now, crazy."
  • ElliTree
    ElliTree Posts: 23 Member
    Besides water, fiber and protein to keep yourself full, you need to find something that is more exciting than food. For instance, sex occupies a larger part of your brain when you're thinking about it. I'm just saying.
  • DCarter1701
    DCarter1701 Posts: 45 Member
    Boring but lots and lots of protein leave me stuffed. And I drink gallons of decaf green tea in the evening. And there are NO snacks in the house. I've tried, moderation ISN'T my middle name just yet.

    Good luck.

    Yep, when I upped my protein and fat intake, cravings lessened considerably. Also, staying away from the kitchen at night, if you can, is great. I have green tea at night while watching TV and have managed to stay away from evening snacks now for 6 months, except for our monthly family pizza and movie night. :)
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Maybe your calorie goal is too aggressive. 1200 can be hard to do. If it's making you binge, maybe try 1500.

    This.

    If that isn't the case, rearrange your calories throughout the day to allow enough for a late night snack - something good, that will satisfy you. It's what I do. I hate going to bed hungry and am usually still up 5-6 hrs after dinner. I just plan to leave 200-400 calories free for whatever I'm wanting at the time.
  • jesusarolon
    jesusarolon Posts: 208 Member
    Go to sleep.

    THIS!!!!!! (Try some Almonds to keep the hunger pains away, if you are still thinking of food, it is probably emotional eating)

    I thought the same thing.
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    Why do you have those things in your home ?

    I don't. I will literally GO TO THE STORE just to give into the cravings. It's actually f*cked.

    Haha, tis is why living in Detroit helps me. I am not running to the store in the middle of the night for anything outside of an actual emergency.
  • zebacuff
    zebacuff Posts: 39 Member

    Thanks for posting this link. That's the best advice I've seen for addressing my personal binging habits. I will have to save, print, and refer back often.
  • zebacuff
    zebacuff Posts: 39 Member
    I also chew LOTS of sugarless gum and drink seltzer water to trick my body into thinking it's eating. :)

    +1 on seltzer water! It's saved me countless times.
  • HolleeERL
    HolleeERL Posts: 313 Member
    A small glass of milk helps me. But I know some people consider milk the devil. It's good to fill you up a bit and feeds your muscles while you sleep.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I didn't binge, but I found myself gaining weight back after I started logging. Finally, I just stopped logging. And after I did, I lost the weight I'd gained back. Obviously, it wasn't the right weight loss method for me.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    Maybe your calorie goal is too aggressive. 1200 can be hard to do. If it's making you binge, maybe try 1500.

    ^^^ this

    because overeating and binge eating are a normal survival response to eating too little (in some cases it's emotional but in most cases it's the direct result of eating too little). Most women seem to underestimate how many calories they need. There's a thread on here "your guide on your path to sexypants" which explains how to calculate how many calories you should eat for slow and steady fat loss, while eating enough that you don't succumb to issues like rebound overeating and binge eating.