The Skinny Rules

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  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Ezekiel bread is sold in the freezer section of most grocery stores. Did you look there? Sometimes the brand is called "Food for Life" too.

    Yes, it's in the health food freezer section. Food for Life is the brand name. Ezekiel is one of the types of bread they sell. SOOO yummy.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I go by my own rules. My advice? Take the rules that work for you and make them your own. As long as you live your life by someone else's rules, you are setting yourself up for failure. MHO of course.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    If you struggle to cook at home, I've found this book to be a lifesaver:

    http://www.amazon.com/Fix-Freeze-Feast-Delicious-Money-Saving/dp/1603427260/

    I don't like many of the recipes, but the guidelines in the book can help you adapt many of the recipes you currently enjoy to bulk cooking. I cook on Sunday and then mostly reheat during the week.

    I eat these refrigerator oatmeals and bacon every day for breakfast: http://www.theyummylife.com/Refrigerator_Oatmeal

    I put the bacon in a casserole pan when I was roasting a chicken and then put two each into tinfoil packets and threw them in the freezer. I grab an oatmeal and a bacon pack each morning on my way out the door. I wrap the bacon in paper towels and heat it for 30 seconds in the office microwave.
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    I'm confused. Rule 7 & 12 contradict each other. If I had a "meatless" day, what may I for dinner that has zero carbs and is meatless?

    Eggs or fish would be my guess.
    Fish is animal, is flesh, is meat.

    Fish is not always considered meat - for example, in Catholic church during Lent, you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays, but fish is allowed. Some "vegetarians" forgo meat - i.e. chicken, red meat, pork, etc - but will still eat fish. It depends on what Bob's definition of "meat" is in the sense of the book. I don't have the book, so obviously I don't have access to what he's defining meat as - just looking at the rules as posted. No need to be condescending.

    is poultry meat then? you know since it has it's own section in the grocery stores.

    Fish / Poultry / Meat


    All a form of meat to me.

    All these diets are confusing.

    I'll stick to be an omnivore or flexitarian - I hear that's the new game in town these days!
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/2014-06/10/13/enhanced/webdr08/anigif_enhanced-buzz-19386-1402423064-8.gif

    It's funny because it starts out saying that dieting is surrounded by confusion. And then proceeds to add many many rules which the sheer number of is confusing and overwhelming enough but then when you read them there is more confusion.

    Case in point rule Rule #3: Eat protein at every meal, making some kind of fish your go-to protein as often as you can. Take your weight and divide it by two—that’s more or less how much protein you should be eating in grams every day.

    The first bolded part confuses me because back in the day I lost 51 lbs on Somercise while separating my foods. I did not have protein at every meal because that diet allowed for carbs but not at the same time you ate meat. I'm not advocating that plan over this one just pointing that one can absolutely lose wieght while NOT eating protein at every meal because I've done it.

    The second bolded part flies in the face of everything new I've read about how much protein the body needs. Maybe someone can clear this up for me. Not that necessary though if you don't have time since the first part being OPPOSITE to my experience kind of negates the whole rule for me altogether.

    There are many other parts that don't match my experience such as BOTH times I lost weight in the past and this current THIRD time I never went to bed hungry. When I hear "go to bed hungry" it sounds like an outdated punishment for bad toddlers and children who have misbehaved and who's parents are not very evolved. I don't plan to put that into use for myself, as I feel I don't require punishment for my current weight circumstances.

    I would never have my toddlers go to sleep hungry. I like to sleep.

    My understanding of protein is 82% of your total body weight in grams, or 1 gram per pound of your lean body weight. These formulas would be the same at 18% body fat.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I'm confused. Rule 7 & 12 contradict each other. If I had a "meatless" day, what may I for dinner that has zero carbs and is meatless?

    Eggs or fish would be my guess.
    Fish is animal, is flesh, is meat.

    Fish is not always considered meat - for example, in Catholic church during Lent, you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays, but fish is allowed. Some "vegetarians" forgo meat - i.e. chicken, red meat, pork, etc - but will still eat fish. It depends on what Bob's definition of "meat" is in the sense of the book. I don't have the book, so obviously I don't have access to what he's defining meat as - just looking at the rules as posted. No need to be condescending.

    is poultry meat then? you know since it has it's own section in the grocery stores.

    Fish / Poultry / Meat


    All a form of meat to me.

    All these diets are confusing.

    I'll stick to be an omnivore or flexitarian - I hear that's the new game in town these days!

    Flexitarians are supposed to eat 1500 calories a day. I would lose all my muscle mass.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Simmer down select negative people on this thread. I only use the rules as guidelines. I had a piece of toast before bed last night. I DO WHAT I WANT. It was just useful to get me started and reset my eating habits to something more healthy. Not sure why using these rules should be so upsetting to others. Even if I did choose to restrict carbs and go to bed hungry, it doesn't harm you, and it is healthier than eating a bag of Cheetos before bed. Has it occurred to you that reading the skinny rules was my first step in research? I then went on to read "In Defense of Food" and continue to read different views on health and nutrition. It's awfully arrogant to make such big assumptions based on one brief post. Also, if you read the book, a lot of the rules are flexible or expanded upon.

    In Defense of Food has issues too - that whole concept of edible food like substances.

    I tried to gain weight in order to gain muscle earlier this spring. I had to eat over my maintenance calorie goal EVERYDAY. It kind of sucked and I wasn't very good at it. Palatability became really important to me. There really aren't edible food-like substances.

    There are nutrient-dense foods. There are fresh foods. There are palatable foods. Some foods are high on all three of these scales. Some are lower on some. It doesn't mean that you avoid anything - after all, frozen green beans are probably healthier than fresh. Everything has a place, except the foods you personally don't like.

    Yes, you are going to want to limit the number of Cheetos you eat while you are on a diet. However, if you ever decide that you want to gain muscle mass, have at them (once you've met your macro and micro nutrient goals)!
  • asdowe13
    asdowe13 Posts: 1,951 Member
    I'm confused. Rule 7 & 12 contradict each other. If I had a "meatless" day, what may I for dinner that has zero carbs and is meatless?

    Eggs or fish would be my guess.
    Fish is animal, is flesh, is meat.

    Fish is not always considered meat - for example, in Catholic church during Lent, you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays, but fish is allowed. Some "vegetarians" forgo meat - i.e. chicken, red meat, pork, etc - but will still eat fish. It depends on what Bob's definition of "meat" is in the sense of the book. I don't have the book, so obviously I don't have access to what he's defining meat as - just looking at the rules as posted. No need to be condescending.

    is poultry meat then? you know since it has it's own section in the grocery stores.

    Fish / Poultry / Meat


    All a form of meat to me.

    All these diets are confusing.

    I'll stick to be an omnivore or flexitarian - I hear that's the new game in town these days!

    Flexitarians are supposed to eat 1500 calories a day. I would lose all my muscle mass.

    I'm out then - 1500 - I can eat that in one meal. I require more food than that!
  • Cliffslosinit
    Cliffslosinit Posts: 5,044 Member
    This is what you are looking for...also have it with cinnamon raisin.
    Stater Bros. here in California has it in the bread aisle.

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    eta. Capitalization
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    Found the rules posted online:

    RULE 1: Drink a Large Glass of Water before Every Meal – No Excuses!

    RULE 2: Don’t Drink Your Calories

    RULE 3: Eat Protein Every Meal – or Stay Hungry and Grouchy

    RULE 4: Slash Your Intake of Refined Flours and Grains

    RULE 5: Eat 30 to 50 Grams of Fiber a Day

    RULE 6: Eat Apples and Berries Every Single Day – Every Single Day!

    RULE 7: No Carbs after Lunch

    RULE 8: Learn to Read Food Labels So You Know What You Are Eating

    RULE 9: Step Guessing About Portion Size and Get It Right – for Good!

    RULE 10: No More Added Sweeteners, Including Artificial Ones

    RULES 11: Get Rid of Those White Potatoes

    RULE 12: Make One Day a Week Meatless

    RULE 13: Get Rid of Fast Foods and Fried Foods

    RULE 14: Eat a Real Breakfast

    RULE 15: Make Your Own Food and Eat at Least Ten Meals a Week at Home

    RULE 16: Banish High-Salt Foods

    RULE 17: Eat Your Vegetables – Just Do It!

    RULE 18: Go to Bed Hungry

    RULE 19: Sleep Right

    RULE 20: Plan One Splurge Meal a Week

    Disagree with no carbs after lunch (my lunch is carb-less). Go to bed hungry he means don't eat after dinner? Which is fine. Everything else lines up with what I do.

    Can't agree with all of these (especially #7, 11 & 18), but all of the others are great if you are looking for a lifestyle change and not just another diet. These are pretty much how I've accomplished my goals. I can't agree more with #9 - Definitely get a food scale if you don't already use one. I think RULE 21 should be - Have a support system! It can be difficult to do it alone, but the more people you have cheering you on the more likely you will stick with it. Add me for support! I log every day. Best of luck to you!
  • julslenae
    julslenae Posts: 38 Member

    the typical MFP users does this:
    1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
    2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
    3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
    4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
    5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
    6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
    7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
    8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
    9. Argument ensues about who is right.

    I fell for 1-4. So glad I read some good advice in the forums before damage could be done.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    I'm confused. Rule 7 & 12 contradict each other. If I had a "meatless" day, what may I for dinner that has zero carbs and is meatless?

    Eggs or fish would be my guess.
    Fish is animal, is flesh, is meat.

    Fish is not always considered meat - for example, in Catholic church during Lent, you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays, but fish is allowed. Some "vegetarians" forgo meat - i.e. chicken, red meat, pork, etc - but will still eat fish. It depends on what Bob's definition of "meat" is in the sense of the book. I don't have the book, so obviously I don't have access to what he's defining meat as - just looking at the rules as posted. No need to be condescending.

    Websters says 'meat' = 'animal tissue considered especially as food:' Fish is meat. It's silly to pretend otherwise. Am I being condescending? Depends on whether someone is being willfully obtuse.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    I'm confused. Rule 7 & 12 contradict each other. If I had a "meatless" day, what may I for dinner that has zero carbs and is meatless?

    Eggs or fish would be my guess.
    Fish is animal, is flesh, is meat.

    Fish is not always considered meat - for example, in Catholic church during Lent, you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays, but fish is allowed. Some "vegetarians" forgo meat - i.e. chicken, red meat, pork, etc - but will still eat fish. It depends on what Bob's definition of "meat" is in the sense of the book. I don't have the book, so obviously I don't have access to what he's defining meat as - just looking at the rules as posted. No need to be condescending.

    Websters says 'meat' = 'animal tissue considered especially as food:' Fish is meat. It's silly to pretend otherwise. Am I being condescending? Depends on whether someone is being willfully obtuse.

    Yeah. I think we're talking about real life, not religious/political fictions.
  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
    No! I only looked in the bread section, there is still hope!

    You may to freeze Ezekiel bread when not using it. It does this really bizarre thing when exposed to sunlight and room temperatures, it turns these funky blue and green colors. Unlike popular bread which last for weeks and doesn't get these colors. Wonder what causes this to happen?!? Very strange(hehehehe) but yes, keep it in the freezer, it lasts longer.
  • If I drank a large glass of water before every meal my digestion would be horrible.
  • murph1349
    murph1349 Posts: 8 Member
    LOL - I love the "banned book" comment (a ways back by the original poster). People can jump all over "the rules" but a GENERAL following of most of them just causes you to be more aware of what you're eating and to eat healthier. Good luck!
  • rebprest
    rebprest Posts: 149 Member
    Just like to say sorry again for getting defensive and angry. I felt like people on the thread were forcing beliefs or attributes on me that I didn't actually have and that the thread's changing subject matter from my question of "anyone having success with this" to "following these rules is a stupid thing to do" was offensive. Having perused the site more, I see that pretty much all threads morph away from the actual question to general opinions on the given topic or related topics, and aren't necessarily an attack on the OP. This site is a public venue, and posting the original question does not mean I get to control the way it evolves.

    Also, some people here just have very fixed and forceful opinions that are expressed in ways I'm not used to. In the end though, I really do get to do whatever I want and think whatever I want and so does everyone else. So there is no point in wasting energy taking offense, eat your moderate amounts of cheetos (throws cheetos into the crowd). Thanks for the support, the suggestions, the random intense feelings and opinions.
  • Barbellarella_
    Barbellarella_ Posts: 454 Member
    Just like to say sorry again for getting defensive and angry. I felt like people on the thread were forcing beliefs or attributes on me that I didn't actually have and that the thread's changing subject matter from my question of "anyone having success with this" to "following these rules is a stupid thing to do" was offensive. Having perused the site more, I see that pretty much all threads morph away from the actual question to general opinions on the given topic or related topics, and aren't necessarily an attack on the OP. This site is a public venue, and posting the original question does not mean I get to control the way it evolves.

    Also, some people here just have very fixed and forceful opinions that are expressed in ways I'm not used to. In the end though, I really do get to do whatever I want and think whatever I want and so does everyone else. So there is no point in wasting energy taking offense, eat your moderate amounts of cheetos (throws cheetos into the crowd). Thanks for the support, the suggestions, the random intense feelings and opinions.
    :flowerforyou:
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
    *catches Cheetos and gently throws them back* "Sorry,:wink: no carbs after dinner or was that lunch?"
  • rebprest
    rebprest Posts: 149 Member
    *catches Cheetos and gently throws them back* "Sorry,:wink: no carbs after dinner or was that lunch?"

    lolololol
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    These sound like terrible rules.
  • bethlaf
    bethlaf Posts: 954 Member
    theres some value and some hogwash, he is a celebrity , and wrote a book to capitolize on it , i am sure if you followed it you would lose weight, but then
    i can sum it up in 1 rule
    Eat Less- Move more.....

    its typical pop culture tripe , sort of good advice wrapped in a pleasing package... with a familiar logo...
  • nancy10272004
    nancy10272004 Posts: 277 Member
    I'm confused. Rule 7 & 12 contradict each other. If I had a "meatless" day, what may I for dinner that has zero carbs and is meatless?

    Eggs or fish would be my guess.
    Fish is animal, is flesh, is meat.

    Fish is not always considered meat - for example, in Catholic church during Lent, you're not supposed to eat meat on Fridays, but fish is allowed.

    The reason fish is allowed on Fridays in Lent by the Catholic Church is so McDonald's could create the Filet-o-Fish. No really. Seriously.

    http://pblosser.blogspot.com/2010/12/fish-on-friday-one-that-got-away.html
  • shoneybabes
    shoneybabes Posts: 199 Member
    It sounds like someone wrote a book about common sense.

    If everyone didn't eat processed/junk food there would be very little food related health problems.

    Also portion control and exercise more!!!

    The worst invention in modern society is junk food.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    Just like to say sorry again for getting defensive and angry. I felt like people on the thread were forcing beliefs or attributes on me that I didn't actually have and that the thread's changing subject matter from my question of "anyone having success with this" to "following these rules is a stupid thing to do" was offensive. Having perused the site more, I see that pretty much all threads morph away from the actual question to general opinions on the given topic or related topics, and aren't necessarily an attack on the OP. This site is a public venue, and posting the original question does not mean I get to control the way it evolves.

    Also, some people here just have very fixed and forceful opinions that are expressed in ways I'm not used to. In the end though, I really do get to do whatever I want and think whatever I want and so does everyone else. So there is no point in wasting energy taking offense, eat your moderate amounts of cheetos (throws cheetos into the crowd). Thanks for the support, the suggestions, the random intense feelings and opinions.

    See, what you do is post stuff like this and then wait for the firestorm to die down. Sift through the ashes of the thread and friend the supportive people, glean any gold nuggets from the rubble, see if anybody has mentioned a group. The groups are awesome for tips and applying the philosophies to actual life.

    ETA - just wait until next year when somebody searches "Skinny Rules" posts something, so it pops back up to the top of the forums and the reburn happens :)
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    2: Do it all the time.
    6: I don't know if I do it every single day, but most of the time.
    7: Why? I eat them when I want to eat them.
    10: Why? I eat them when I want to eat them.
    11: No way.
    12: Why? I eat meat every single day.
    13: There are healthier fast food selections you can make, but you have to look up the menus online and pay attention to what you eat.
    16: I am double-digit blood pressure, and I make sure I get enough...one size does not fit all. Pickles are not bad...but they are loaded with sodium.
    18: That is just silly, I would not be able to sleep.
    19: How exactly do you sleep "wrong"?
    20: If you are following all the other rules, how do you eat a splurge meal and not break them?

    Other than what I listed, I already do all these things, but I would not follow all of these rules, it is a bit much plus I just don't think it matters what time you eat your carbs, total calories per day matters, the end.
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    If I drank a large glass of water before every meal my digestion would be horrible.
    Why? Water helps digestion so I am just trying to understand what you mean. The water before the meal helps you not to overeat, I think that is the point although I never read the book. I drink at least a gallon of water a day.
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
    If I drank a large glass of water before every meal my digestion would be horrible.
    Why? Water helps digestion so I am just trying to understand what you mean. The water before the meal helps you not to overeat, I think that is the point although I never read the book. I drink at least a gallon of water a day.
    1. Hunger and thirst are separate processes, so I'm not sure how quenching thirst would regulate hunger.
    2. Is there a particular reason you feel the need to drink a gallon of water a day, and do you count other beverages within that total?
  • rebprest
    rebprest Posts: 149 Member
    I sometimes feel the only reason this attempt at losing weight has been successful for me when all others have failed is because of my increased water intake. A LOT of the time when I feel hungry I'm actually just super thirsty, and most of the time I don't feel "thirst" per say, so letting that guide me ends with me drinking very little water. I also just feel more energized and retain less sodium when I drink more water (or so it seems, I'm not a scientist). I don't drink a gallon, though, but I do usually have about 100 oz give or take. I've noticed a lot of people seem to think this is too much water and are worried about my intake, but I sweat way more now and I need to replenish!
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    If I drank a large glass of water before every meal my digestion would be horrible.
    Why? Water helps digestion so I am just trying to understand what you mean. The water before the meal helps you not to overeat, I think that is the point although I never read the book. I drink at least a gallon of water a day.
    1. Hunger and thirst are separate processes, so I'm not sure how quenching thirst would regulate hunger.
    2. Is there a particular reason you feel the need to drink a gallon of water a day, and do you count other beverages within that total?
    If you drink a glass of water before your meal, it helps you to feel fuller with less food, that has been a diet thing for as long as I can remember. There is nothing wrong with drinking a gallon of water a day, what is your point?