5 weeks and nothing

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  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    maybe you are not eating enough.
    It seems to me if she's not losing weight she's eating too much. Most likely a combination of not having much to lose anyway and overestimating food intake.

    But she's eating 1500 calories are working out 2 hours a day. Her net is probably sub-1,000. As I said, I think she needs to eat more.
    Jerry, certainly you could be right that she is eating too little, but I think she'd be losing weight. If your above calorie estimation were even close to correct, wouldn't she be passed out on the floor by now?

    Which brings up something else- OP, have you had your thyroid checked?
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  • PSMTD
    PSMTD Posts: 106 Member

    I'm normally of the same mind as you on thus topic for most. But, I have a feeling about this one.

    I agree with GuitarJerry.

    When you aren't eating enough you slow down your metabolism.

    http://www.wcgh.org/how-to-understand-the-risks-of-eating-too-few-calories/
    "By no means should calorie intake go below 1200 calories per day. Dropping below this level causes the body to hang onto body fat as a way to protect itself against perceived starvation. This can make it very difficult to lose more weight and could cause health problems."
  • Barbellarella_
    Barbellarella_ Posts: 454 Member
    I'm sorry, but you are 5'8.5". You are already on the lower end of a healthy weight for your height. Losing 15 pounds would put you in the underweight bracket.

    Maybe you should consider the fact that you are not being reasonable. You already look very fit. You might want to consider dropping the cardio, and if it's your Body shape you're unhappy with, try some weight training. While eating at Maintenance, or slightly below.

    QFT


    Disclaimer: yes, I totally QFT'd my own post. *takes a bow*
  • upasanaD
    upasanaD Posts: 56
    I think you can share your sample diet chart with us and 2 hours exercise per day is not required. 1 hour is sufficient if you are
    doing high intensity training.

    For me i can burn lots of calories by doing burpees, mountain climber, jump rope, squats, lunges and push ups
    in a circuit training.

    Drink 5-6 liters of water each day it really helps. Best of luck.
  • __freckles__
    __freckles__ Posts: 1,238 Member
    Did OP say that she weighs everything? Diary is closed.
  • __freckles__
    __freckles__ Posts: 1,238 Member
    I weigh about 138 now I'd like to be at 125... I played college sports and I want to reshape my body some from that ya know lean out my muscles and lose some body fat... I know I have weight to lose I think that pic is a little out of proportion, I'm in good shape but I'd love to lose some and I'm determined but yeah maybe I should start measuring more carefully like suggested, I normally over compensate the amount but I guess measuring cups don't always work great...and I guess I don't see the point of eating back calories burned in exercise bc it seems like that defeats the purpose I guess

    Bingo, there we go. Measuring cups should only be used for liquids. You need to weigh all solids. You're probably eating more than you think.
  • brower47
    brower47 Posts: 16,356 Member
    I'm sorry, but you are 5'8.5". You are already on the lower end of a healthy weight for your height. Losing 15 pounds would put you in the underweight bracket.

    Maybe you should consider the fact that you are not being reasonable. You already look very fit. You might want to consider dropping the cardio, and if it's your Body shape you're unhappy with, try some weight training. While eating at Maintenance, or slightly below.

    QFT


    Disclaimer: yes, I totally QFT'd my own post. *takes a bow*

    I'll give you a legit QFT. :flowerforyou:

    OP, if you want to body recomp, and it sounds like you do, eat at maintenance while consuming .8-1g of protein per lb of lean body mass and start lifting heavy.

    Here's an example of what heavy lifting can do to a physique. If this is what you're going for, get a program and get started. Going underweight probably isn't what's good for your health or your body goals.
    rdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
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  • cameron316
    cameron316 Posts: 14 Member
    Well I don't really like eating paleo and exercising so much I'm just really trying to lose that college 15 and a successful trainer told me to do paleo... I haven't been sticking to it exclusively like I'll have coffee with creamer and sometimes rice or potatoes and some other snacks that aren't paleo, I'm just trying to eat less processed foods and not breads and stuff... I'm slightly confused now bc lots think I'm not eating enough and then some think I'm eating too much... I'll try and make my diary public... I don't have a food scale but I'll get one, sorry for the trouble everyone
  • lioness803
    lioness803 Posts: 325 Member
    Don't eat paleo if you don't like it, it's not necessary to lose weight, just a calorie deficit is. You shouldn't go an a "diet" to lose weight because you want to eat the way you plan to eat for the rest of your life, so you can maintain it!

    I agree with using a food scale, and making sure you eat back exercise calories, but I also feel your goal weight might be a little low for you. 125 would be a good weight for me and I'm 5 inches shorter than you.
  • penny0919
    penny0919 Posts: 123 Member
    I don't understand why you say you are eating "strict paleo" when you are eating coffee creamer, rice cakes, rice, chocolate cake, etc. None of those things is bad IMO but it's not paleo.


    Never mind I see you addressed that a couple posts ago.


    Not that it matters. You are either underestimating your calorie consumption or you have a medical issue (thyroid?) that needs to be addressed by a doctor.
  • penny0919
    penny0919 Posts: 123 Member
    No doubt. I don't get how anyone believes it anymore. Anorexic people would be the heaviest people on earth if starvation mode was true.
  • cameron316
    cameron316 Posts: 14 Member
    I was at the beginning more so then I got bored and frustrated but yeah it's kinda embarrassing to make that public, I'm not perfect at alll but the chocolate cake was a paleo single serving dessert thingy so not like real cake just cocoa powder and applesauce and stuff... But I dono still not sure what to do bc people stay starvation mode doesn't even exist
  • williams969
    williams969 Posts: 2,528 Member
    Well I don't really like eating paleo and exercising so much I'm just really trying to lose that college 15 and a successful trainer told me to do paleo... I haven't been sticking to it exclusively like I'll have coffee with creamer and sometimes rice or potatoes and some other snacks that aren't paleo, I'm just trying to eat less processed foods and not breads and stuff... I'm slightly confused now bc lots think I'm not eating enough and then some think I'm eating too much... I'll try and make my diary public... I don't have a food scale but I'll get one, sorry for the trouble everyone

    FIrst, if you don't like eating paleo, don't eat paleo. Eat what you like, but eat some "good" stuff sometimes (lean meats, veggies, and yes, potatoes are good for you, fiber and potassium) to get those micro nutrients in your body.

    It "looks" like you're not eating enough, but as you said, you're "eyeballing" and using cups to measure solids. THAT is where the biggest (unintentional) mistakes arise. I wholly believe a food scale will fix that, and weighing is SOO much easier than a bunch of measuring cups. I betcha you're underestimating on your food diary. Happens to the best of us, promise you're not alone.

    Finally, and this is the biggest point, sometimes athletic people and former athletes (I'm a former one, myself--runner and volleyball YAY!) can get too caught up with our weight. When we think it's all about the last 5 or ten pounds, it's really a body "recomp" that's in order. If you want to change what's in the mirror, changing the number on the scale is not always the best route (for "close" to goal folks).

    Cardio's great and fun and all (I could run for miles and miles, ohhh the delight), but strength training and heavy lifting (while eating only at a tiny deficit or at TDEE--accurately measured, of course) may very well give you bigger results than "dieting" down ever will accomplish. It is absolutely within your ability to not lose a single pound (or even gain one or two) while lifting, and totally transform yourself.
  • penny0919
    penny0919 Posts: 123 Member
    I was at the beginning more so then I got bored and frustrated but yeah it's kinda embarrassing to make that public, I'm not perfect at alll but the chocolate cake was a paleo single serving dessert thingy so not like real cake just cocoa powder and applesauce and stuff... But I dono still not sure what to do bc people stay starvation mode doesn't even exist

    Don't be embarrassed, I'm sorry it wasn't my intention to make you feel that way. Your eating is fine, hell your weight is fine. I think you might have unrealistic expectations. 125 is LOW for your height.
  • williams969
    williams969 Posts: 2,528 Member
    I was at the beginning more so then I got bored and frustrated but yeah it's kinda embarrassing to make that public, I'm not perfect at alll but the chocolate cake was a paleo single serving dessert thingy so not like real cake just cocoa powder and applesauce and stuff... But I dono still not sure what to do bc people stay starvation mode doesn't even exist

    No, NOT starvation mode. It's almost certainly a data entry error (mis-measuring, not logging everything, etc.). I've done that, before it all "clicked" about what measuring food really meant. Oops, live and learn. Every bite, morsel, lick. Every sauce and condiment and drop of oil in the pan. Whatever, it has to go in the diary. And no, nobody will chide you for eating the cake. Mmm, please eat cake and log it, it makes people happy!
  • cameron316
    cameron316 Posts: 14 Member
    Thanks that was nice of you :) My grandmother has a scale so I'll work on getting that ASAP and I get that weights is the best way to tone and all that but I lifted heavy weights 3x a week for 4 years in college and I hated the way my body looked so I guess I just don't want that body type anymore, if I just did light weights would it lean me out instead of bulk me up like in college
  • Zara11
    Zara11 Posts: 1,247 Member
    Sorry if this was mentioned before... I'm 5'8" and was as low as 128 before. You're already 138 - go to losing .5lbs a week (at most) and be sure to track inches as well as pounds, because the weight will matter less and less as you're so close to your goal. Swimming was a great exercise for me, do you have access to a pool? You're struggling with motivation - make non-weight goals for yourself. Set fitness goals & eating goals. And I definitely didn't eat paleo to get to that weight. If paleo doesn't work for ya, don't make yourself miserable with it!

    Edited to add: I'd honestly focus more on non-scale and inches. Feel free to weigh in once a week or once a month to keep an eye on how that's going, but realize, given you're already pretty light, that you need to focus on other things.
  • dylanafghjkl
    dylanafghjkl Posts: 76 Member
    people that believe in starvation mode :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn:
  • williams969
    williams969 Posts: 2,528 Member
    Thanks that was nice of you :) My grandmother has a scale so I'll work on getting that ASAP and I get that weights is the best way to tone and all that but I lifted heavy weights 3x a week for 4 years in college and I hated the way my body looked so I guess I just don't want that body type anymore, if I just did light weights would it lean me out instead of bulk me up like in college

    Simple, don't eat above maintenance, and you will not bulk. It is impossible to bulk or build muscle (especially for women) while eating in a deficit when lifting. Toning = losing fat while maintaining lean mass. Strength training at a deficit will do this.
  • cameron316
    cameron316 Posts: 14 Member
    Okay I understand, thanks guys I'll start measuring and weighing everything and see where that puts me in a few weeks... thanks for all the advice and suggestions! I really appreciate everyones input :)
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
    I looked at your diary and I would suggest eating vegetables, a lot of vegetables and more lean protein. Also, go get a digital food scale and start weighing your food. You eat a ton of fruit and I'm not criticizing that but your diet could be better balanced. And either eat paleo or not, no one here is going to judge you. I also did see a day where your were over 1100 calories unless you are not logging everything, it's hard to fuel your body for workouts on that few calories.

    Read the following link:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member

    I'm normally of the same mind as you on thus topic for most. But, I have a feeling about this one.

    I agree with GuitarJerry.

    When you aren't eating enough you slow down your metabolism.

    http://www.wcgh.org/how-to-understand-the-risks-of-eating-too-few-calories/
    "By no means should calorie intake go below 1200 calories per day. Dropping below this level causes the body to hang onto body fat as a way to protect itself against perceived starvation. This can make it very difficult to lose more weight and could cause health problems."
    I would normally disagree, but the more I think about this you two could be right. Sidesteel posted an article about eating too little, being overtired, and stalling weight loss when eating too little. Wish I could find it. If I can, I will post the link.
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    It took about 10 weeks for me to notice. I was working out hard too.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    The amount of starvation mode belief in this thread is amazing.
    Not starvation mode, or even metabolic damage. Sidesteel posted an article here regarding a temporary slow down in weight loss when you eat too few calories, are over tired, and are stressed about your dieting. Unfortunately, I can't find it.

    On the other hand, I looked at the OP's diary. Food is not weighed and I think calories are overestimated. However, it does not seem to me that the differences would be enough for her to be maintaining instead of losing.

    I'm sitting on the fence about this one, though I generally go with miscalculation of calories. :smile:
  • KylaDenay
    KylaDenay Posts: 1,585 Member
    The amount of starvation mode belief in this thread is amazing.
    Not starvation mode, or even metabolic damage. Sidesteel posted an article here regarding a temporary slow down in weight loss when you eat too few calories, are over tired, and are stressed about your dieting. Unfortunately, I can't find it.

    On the other hand, I looked at the OP's diary. Food is not weighed and I think calories are overestimated. However, it does not seem to me that the differences would be enough for her to be maintaining instead of losing.

    I'm sitting on the fence about this one, though I generally go with miscalculation of calories. :smile:

    I'm just here cause I am interested to read the post by Sidesteel!
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    The amount of starvation mode belief in this thread is amazing.
    Not starvation mode, or even metabolic damage. Sidesteel posted an article here regarding a temporary slow down in weight loss when you eat too few calories, are over tired, and are stressed about your dieting. Unfortunately, I can't find it.

    On the other hand, I looked at the OP's diary. Food is not weighed and I think calories are overestimated. However, it does not seem to me that the differences would be enough for her to be maintaining instead of losing.

    I'm sitting on the fence about this one, though I generally go with miscalculation of calories. :smile:

    I don't know if this is the specific article you were talking about, but it is still good and has some great info.

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/another-look-at-metabolic-damage.html#more-9313
  • elvensnow
    elvensnow Posts: 154 Member
    people that believe in starvation mode

    Starvation mode is a poor name choice because among dieters it has come to mean a lot of things. In most applications of the term, it is a myth.

    However, temporary metabolic slowdown (which is what many mean when they short-hand "starvation mode") is completely real. Your metabolism can slow down when eating too little, causing you to retain weight. And notice it has "temporary" in the name-- if you eat below levels for a long enough period of time you will most likely start losing eventually. But most people see this as a plateau and do not continue the habit.

    And I can vouch that it's not a myth. I was eating strictly 1200 calories a day while exercising and I maintained for several months. After reading many of the threads and advice from Sidesteel, I upped to 1400 and I immediately started losing again, dropping a very stubborn 10 lbs in a little over a month. I probably could have gone higher, but was too worried about weight gain.

    So yes, eating more sounds counter-intuitive -- but when you are extremely active it's often the best way to lose weight. Also I should note this pretty much applies mostly to people who are already very close to goal weight.
  • cameron316
    cameron316 Posts: 14 Member
    It took about 10 weeks for me to notice. I was working out hard too.

    Reallyy?? that is what my mom thinks, that I need to be patient I'll have results in time... she lost 25 pounds and did it through myfitnesspal and she's been helping cook and keep me on track... and I may be underestimating calories slightly but not a wholee lot...I guess it can make a bigger difference that I thought though