DIE DIE DIE!!!

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  • rideontechnology
    rideontechnology Posts: 54 Member
    Any idea of a particular food being avoided like the plague, but especially carbs and sugar. Certain people do what works for them, but claiming that I can't eat carbs and lose weight drives me insane.

    And not eating past a certain time. Ick.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    The standard BMI calculator tells me that as a 6'0" male that I need to look like an Auschwitz prisoner at 135-150 lbs to have a "normal" body. Um, sorry pal, that ain't normal, and that ain't healthy. I looked like a stick in high school and I was 158 lbs.

    As a young adult I bicycled 50 miles a day, was in perfect health, and weighed 185 lbs, which is "overweight" according to the BMI calculator. I don't know who came up with that garbage, but it is not based on any reality for a person with normal musculature. I believe the standard BMI calculator is deceiving people into losing both fat and muscle that is in fact healthy for them.

    I have read (and I am not saying this is true, just that I read it! LOL) that we did not get an obesity epidemic in this country until they came up with BMI and suddenly lots of formerly "normal" people were classified as overweight.
  • CharleneM723
    CharleneM723 Posts: 80 Member
    1. Dr Oz and "superfood" anything.
    2. "You shouldn't cook your vegetables"- . I hate raw vegetables and salad. The only way I'm eating a majority of them is if they are cooked.
    3. Cleanses and detoxes.

    Charlene
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    When people say that muscle weighs more than fat.

    NO, IT DOESN'T!!!! 1kg of muscle weighs EXACTLY THE SAME as 1kg of fat, it's the surface area that is the difference!!!! BAH!

    :angry:

    When people say that I feel like it's more an error in phrasing than an actual myth. The thought behind it is right, it's just worded in a nonsensical manner.

    Agreed. I think that everyone understands this but just likes to argue about it.

    There used to a lady here who would argue all day long that one pound of fat weighed less than one pound of muscle. She also liked Tae Bo. That's all I remember.
  • mjrkearney
    mjrkearney Posts: 408 Member
    1. Anything on the facing label at the grocery store. It may be illegal for them to lie, but they definitely don't have to tell the truth.

    2. "Don't eat after X:00 because you won't be able to work it off before you go to bed." You have no idea what hours I keep, and I can promise you that I don't die every night and resurrect every morning. The major muscle groups might be taking a nap, but the essentials keep running all night long.

    3. Anything toted on the cover of a magazine. They sell hope, not results.

    4. Anything Dr. Oz may suggest outside of his role as a cardiothoracic surgeon. He makes money by peddling snake oil. He saves lives by carving people up like turkeys.
  • KameHameHaaa
    KameHameHaaa Posts: 244 Member
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  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    Leg day, brah.

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    (unofficial president of my own Fairuza Balk fan club)

    In American History X? In bed? With the combat boots?
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    1. Dr Oz and "superfood" anything.
    2. "You shouldn't cook your vegetables"- . I hate raw vegetables and salad. The only way I'm eating a majority of them is if they are cooked.
    3. Cleanses and detoxes.

    Charlene

    I hate cooked salad. The lettuce gets all wilted.
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
    Leg day, brah.

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    (unofficial president of my own Fairuza Balk fan club)

    In American History X? In bed? With the combat boots?

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  • pipertargaryen
    pipertargaryen Posts: 303 Member
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    :drinker:
  • JoshuaL86
    JoshuaL86 Posts: 403 Member
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    Gluten tastes great!
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
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  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
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  • CharleneM723
    CharleneM723 Posts: 80 Member
    Not me. In college, I would microwave my salad before I put my balsamic vinegar on it. SO much better. I hate things crunchy, even cereal.
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    Diet Pills
    Clean Eating
    Junk Food
    Women will bulk if they lift weights.
    I can't lose weight because I have big bones.
    Diet Soda is bad and causes weight gain.
    Food is bad.
    Diet Cleanse
    Aspartame - Run! Run! Run! The sky is falling! Oh, the horror!
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    Real women have curves
  • I'd add some health myths as well, since these are all pseudo medicine and woo.

    01. Oil Pulling
    02. Homeopathy
    03. Chiropractic
    05. Feng Shui
    06. Naturopathy
    07. Pretty much all "Eastern Medicine"
    08. Acupuncture
    09. Chelation "Therapy"
    10. The Pro-Disease, anti-vaccination crowd of celebs like Jenny McCarthy

    All of that is crap and in some cases dangerous.

    Partially agree, although I think chiropractors can be really bad or really good. Depends on the person you see, since I had a chiropractor who I realized was basically a scam artist, but now I have a chiropractor who actually figured out the reason for my migraines which countless specialists and head scans couldn't figure out. He's taught me ways of keeping my joints aligned myself so my chronic pain is better.
    Regardless of good or bad, you're basically seeing a chiropractor for physical therapy. Fine if you want to see a chiropractor for that, however, I'd rather see a licensed physical therapist whose practice is based on science-based medicine. I'm aware that chiropractors have their own licensing requirements in many cases, but I trust that as much I would trust a licensed psychic for making financial or relationship decisions.
    Or if you flip it on its head, PTs are like Chiros without the ability to adjust and less school. I'd much rather go to a good Chiro than a PT when my back is out, I can do exercises on my own thank you, just move that area I can't! PTs just don't fill the same shoes, no relief vs significant relief after Chiropractic adjustment in my case several times. For school, Chiros have more training and school hours in radiology and nutrition than MDs even. But just like MDs some of them hold strange ideas...and I'm sure NOBODY has heard of Dr. Oz.... I sympathize with the perception though, I've seen some off the wall stuff from some Chiros. You need to do the work and find a good one...or you get situations just like with my MDs who missed conditions I had that my Chiro caught and sent me to the right specialist, definitely changed my life...
    Yes, they may have "more training" (which I don't believe for second) but is their training a science based approach or is it based upon pre-scientific understanding of the body? These adjustments you are receiving, that are purport to treat everything - including insomnia for new borns - is a significant medical intervention. Chiro, like other woo, is immersed in its own dogma, I would not trust one-wit of their "training."

    Have you considered the reason why you're given exercises for your back is to treat the underlying cause and not treat the symptom?

    And if you think Chiro like M.D. hold "strange ideas" then why bother to see any of them? You clearly think the pool is poisoned.

    You got things backwards again, my point is that there are good and bad MDs and Chiros, not that either one is "no good", but they have their place and you need to evaluate them and get second opinions. The PT scenario is also reversed in this case, they did not improve my symptoms and did not treat the cause, the Chiro did treat the cause and a good Chiro not only adjusts but ALSO does what the PT does and can give you similar exercises and therapies afterwards. Its sounding like you heard others talk about Chiros, or have been to an as you say "woo" one, and haven't been to a good Chiro is all.

    I'm not going to reveal what conditions I had, but I definitely owe some very important organ functions to a Chiro who had scientific knowledge of the body and referred me to the MD specialist for an emergency intervention in one case, not to the two MDs I went to who ignored my symptoms that I specifically asked about! Yes definitely there is science based training and there are good and bad Chiros and MDs.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    When people with 100lbs to go tell the people who are lean as hell that they are eating the wrong stuff...

    I would just like to point out that being thin is not the same as being healthy. Assuming that someone who is overweight automatically knows less about nutrition than a thin person. As an overweight person who has over 100 pounds to lose, I hate when people think I have no right to an opinion because I'm fat. This happened to me once when a friend was talking to me about his workout habits, and I made a suggestion. My opinion, however, was considered invalid because I'm fat and therefore must be ignorant. I have spent a lot of time researching ways to eat and live healthier, I just don't always have the willpower to execute the plans I make. That is why I'm fat.

    However, I do agree that one person should not be telling another person how to eat. I just don't really think that weight should come into that equation.

    For clarification, I am talking about people debating science based facts who haven't succeeded yet in their "journey" yet tell fit/lean/ripped people on this board who know a ton and have succeeded that they are wrong in the way they did it cause they read an article in Healthy Living magazine. You absolutely have your right to an opinion, but you can't have an opinion on facts.

    My apologies for being vague.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    The standard BMI calculator tells me that as a 6'0" male that I need to look like an Auschwitz prisoner at 135-150 lbs to have a "normal" body. Um, sorry pal, that ain't normal, and that ain't healthy. I looked like a stick in high school and I was 158 lbs.

    As a young adult I bicycled 50 miles a day, was in perfect health, and weighed 185 lbs, which is "overweight" according to the BMI calculator. I don't know who came up with that garbage, but it is not based on any reality for a person with normal musculature. I believe the standard BMI calculator is deceiving people into losing both fat and muscle that is in fact healthy for them.

    The range for a 6' male to be "normal" is up to 183lbs. Not 150 like you stated. Still, BMI is BS....lol.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    Real women have curves

    Real women do have curves.
    False women are two-dimensional and have no curves.
  • civilizedworm
    civilizedworm Posts: 796 Member
    I'd add some health myths as well, since these are all pseudo medicine and woo.

    01. Oil Pulling
    02. Homeopathy
    03. Chiropractic
    05. Feng Shui
    06. Naturopathy
    07. Pretty much all "Eastern Medicine"
    08. Acupuncture
    09. Chelation "Therapy"
    10. The Pro-Disease, anti-vaccination crowd of celebs like Jenny McCarthy

    All of that is crap and in some cases dangerous.

    Partially agree, although I think chiropractors can be really bad or really good. Depends on the person you see, since I had a chiropractor who I realized was basically a scam artist, but now I have a chiropractor who actually figured out the reason for my migraines which countless specialists and head scans couldn't figure out. He's taught me ways of keeping my joints aligned myself so my chronic pain is better.
    Regardless of good or bad, you're basically seeing a chiropractor for physical therapy. Fine if you want to see a chiropractor for that, however, I'd rather see a licensed physical therapist whose practice is based on science-based medicine. I'm aware that chiropractors have their own licensing requirements in many cases, but I trust that as much I would trust a licensed psychic for making financial or relationship decisions.
    Or if you flip it on its head, PTs are like Chiros without the ability to adjust and less school. I'd much rather go to a good Chiro than a PT when my back is out, I can do exercises on my own thank you, just move that area I can't! PTs just don't fill the same shoes, no relief vs significant relief after Chiropractic adjustment in my case several times. For school, Chiros have more training and school hours in radiology and nutrition than MDs even. But just like MDs some of them hold strange ideas...and I'm sure NOBODY has heard of Dr. Oz.... I sympathize with the perception though, I've seen some off the wall stuff from some Chiros. You need to do the work and find a good one...or you get situations just like with my MDs who missed conditions I had that my Chiro caught and sent me to the right specialist, definitely changed my life...
    Yes, they may have "more training" (which I don't believe for second) but is their training a science based approach or is it based upon pre-scientific understanding of the body? These adjustments you are receiving, that are purport to treat everything - including insomnia for new borns - is a significant medical intervention. Chiro, like other woo, is immersed in its own dogma, I would not trust one-wit of their "training."

    Have you considered the reason why you're given exercises for your back is to treat the underlying cause and not treat the symptom?

    And if you think Chiro like M.D. hold "strange ideas" then why bother to see any of them? You clearly think the pool is poisoned.

    You got things backwards again, my point is that there are good and bad MDs and Chiros, not that either one is "no good", but they have their place and you need to evaluate them and get second opinions. The PT scenario is also reversed in this case, they did not improve my symptoms and did not treat the cause, the Chiro did treat the cause and a good Chiro not only adjusts but ALSO does what the PT does and can give you similar exercises and therapies afterwards. Its sounding like you heard others talk about Chiros, or have been to an as you say "woo" one, and haven't been to a good Chiro is all.

    I'm not going to reveal what conditions I had, but I definitely owe some very important organ functions to a Chiro who had scientific knowledge of the body and referred me to the MD specialist for an emergency intervention in one case, not to the two MDs I went to who ignored my symptoms that I specifically asked about! Yes definitely there is science based training and there are good and bad Chiros and MDs.

    The fact that they are good and bad MDs and Chiros is irrelevant. I am referring to mythologies that each disciplines uses. What you're playing is a game of equivocation. Fact is, they are not equal in methodology, although you also try to claim the mantel that they are. Please.

    You really went to a Chiro for problems with your organs?

    Good luck that.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    The one I hate the most is the idea that any one sarcastic, mocking person has the answer.
  • NotGoddess
    NotGoddess Posts: 1,198 Member
    Anything that involves the phrase 'one weird trick'.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    The one I hate the most is the idea that any one sarcastic, mocking person has the answer.

    No individual sarcastic mocking person has all the answers.
    It takes an entire collective of sarcastic, mocking people to give all of the required answers.
    We're all just individuals. We have families, jobs.
    It takes a village to insult an entire website.
  • MinMin97
    MinMin97 Posts: 2,674 Member
    The one I hate the most is the idea that any one sarcastic, mocking person has the answer.

    No individual sarcastic mocking person has all the answers.
    It takes an entire collective of sarcastic, mocking people to give all of the required answers.
    We're all just individuals. We have families, jobs.
    It takes a village to insult an entire website.
    LOL!
    Right. Because we all know that......sarcasm = information!
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    The one I hate the most is the idea that any one sarcastic, mocking person has the answer.

    No individual sarcastic mocking person has all the answers.
    It takes an entire collective of sarcastic, mocking people to give all of the required answers.
    We're all just individuals. We have families, jobs.
    It takes a village to insult an entire website.
    LOL!
    Right. Because we all know that......sarcasm = information!

    Listen, if we can all just be sarcastic together, then maybe, just MAYBE, we can stop this asteroid from hitting the earth.

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    oh nvmd; calorie counting website. as you were.
  • rollng_thundr
    rollng_thundr Posts: 634 Member
    The standard BMI calculator tells me that as a 6'0" male that I need to look like an Auschwitz prisoner at 135-150 lbs to have a "normal" body. Um, sorry pal, that ain't normal, and that ain't healthy. I looked like a stick in high school and I was 158 lbs.

    As a young adult I bicycled 50 miles a day, was in perfect health, and weighed 185 lbs, which is "overweight" according to the BMI calculator. I don't know who came up with that garbage, but it is not based on any reality for a person with normal musculature. I believe the standard BMI calculator is deceiving people into losing both fat and muscle that is in fact healthy for them.

    The range for a 6' male to be "normal" is up to 183lbs. Not 150 like you stated. Still, BMI is BS....lol.

    ^^^ This.
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member

    I'd add some health myths as well, since these are all pseudo medicine and woo.

    01. Oil Pulling
    02. Homeopathy
    03. Chiropractic
    05. Feng Shui
    06. Naturopathy
    07. Pretty much all "Eastern Medicine"
    08. Acupuncture
    09. Chelation "Therapy"
    10. The Pro-Disease, anti-vaccination crowd of celebs like Jenny McCarthy

    All of that is crap and in some cases dangerous.

    I respectfully disagree with 7 and 8. I've seen Eastern Medicine and Acupuncture, when practiced properly cure some autoimmune diseases, relieve pain, and help with many other conditions. Eastern Medicine is widely misunderstood in the U.S. and often mocked by Western Medicine but that does not mean it is a myth. But just like any other modality there are good and bad doctors (yes, you have to be a doctor to practice Eastern Medicine). Through personal communication during a grad school residency I learned that acupuncture increases circulation, the release of endorphins and activity in a depressed nervous system.
  • ASKyle
    ASKyle Posts: 1,475 Member
    Real women have curves

    Real women do have curves.
    False women are two-dimensional and have no curves.

    +1
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    Real women have curves

    Real women do have curves.
    False women are two-dimensional and have no curves.

    Real men have curves as well.