8-1200 Cal/Day

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  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    How much money does your doctor make from prescribing/monitoring you on your diet? If it's a cash program, which I suspect it will be at your weight ( insurance usually won't pay unless you meet certain obesity or health criterial), than the HCG diet is a huge money maker for the doctor.
    Sad to say but the HCG diet has become a way for doctors to save otherwise failing practices. ( or corporations, I saw that the local Urgent Care clinic is prescribing weight loss pills and HCG now).
    Most practices nowadays require some sort of profit making procedure or diet to stay away from the bankruptcy court. Many have gone to Botox, lasers and fillers,too. It's sad but insurance companies and Medicare/Medicade rates have not stayed up with inflation. Doctors see more patients per day now and earn less money than 10 years ago and dramatically less ( with inflation) than 20 years ago. Have you ever looked at your insurance coverage on an office visit or procedure? For instance, I go to a Coumadin clinic and my insurance pays 0 percent but for some reason, because I'm insured, the Coumadin clinic can't collect cash from me. I get a statement that says $25 billed to insurance, paid $0, amount owed by you-$0.
    For MRIs or surgeries it's just as bad. The hospital got paid $4,000 for each of my $30,000 knee surgeries, the ortho assistant ( PA) got zero and the surgeon got about $400 for a lengthy and risky procedure.
    As far as vital signs go, I weigh and take pulse,BP, temp and respiration a on every patient I see. It makes a huge difference on the diagnosis and treatment so often. For instance, I saw a soldier as follow-up from sick call because he had fainted after PT and the first sergeant found him passed out in his room. Sick call didn't do vital signs, did a cursory exam and asked me to see him to rule out "malingering". I took one look at the chart after my nurse had done the vital signs. This young soldier had a heart rate of 21 beats per minute ( the PA must not have listened to the heart either). I got an EKG which confirmed. He was evacuated to a facility with cardiology and received a pacemaker emergently. Any doctor that doesn't do vital signs and listen to heart/lungs on every patient is negligent. Even weight-a drastic gain or loss of weight can clue in the doctor to all sorts of serious conditions.
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  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    Sorry, didn't read all the replies...... ditch the doc, he's a quack if he's recommending 800 cal per day & HCG

    http://www.dietscam.org/reports/hcg.shtml

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/hcg-and-weight-loss

    http://www.drwalt.com/blog/2009/11/04/hcg-injections-and-diet-for-weight-loss-was-largely-discredited-long-ago/

    any Dr suggesting HCG should be stripped of their license to practice as the evidence is clear that any weight loss is a result of a very low calorie diet (which in itself is problematic) , it's nothing but an unethical cash grab.......
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    I'm new to this app which is kind of embarrassing because my boyfriend kept advising me to join. When a dr tells you to join an app, it's a good idea to listen lol. Anyway, my own dr recently suggested that I try an 800 cal per day diet along with HGH / Vitamin B-12 injections to lose weight. (I am 5'6" tall, size 6 or 8 jeans but too scared to get on a scale, so don't know my weight.) Has anyone had any experience with this combination? If so, how fast did you see the weight come off?

    Is this a medical doctor? I'm a medical professional and advise my patients to avoid these types of diets due to potential of complications and also the high failure rate. Less in and more out is a better plan (I recommend MFP to all my patients who want to lose to help log and help motivate to reach their goals). The other thing I don't get is that based on what you have told are your stats you are not overweight (we are the same size). Maybe you just need to tone?
    I agree. I never recommend very low calorie or fad diets. I could have made a ton of money doing this when I had my own practice,too. Most doctors are acutely aware of malpractice concerns which is part of why our health care costs have soared.
  • kessler4130
    kessler4130 Posts: 150 Member
    You should suplex your doctor, I think one of the biggest problems we run into is doctors trying to give nutritional advice. I am sure they have some basic knowledge as it relates to common issues they encounter on a daily basis, but as far body re-composition and weight loss.... not so much. Anyone can say eat less calories, lose weight..... but if done incorrectly can be more detrimental than being obese.
  • tracydr
    tracydr Posts: 528 Member
    Has anyone ever been to see their doctor when they didn't weigh you? And this is for non-obesity/weight loss visits. I can't imagine a doctor prescribing this approach without having weighed the patient. Something isn't adding up here at all.

    The last time I went I was weighed and my chief complaint was an earache.
    I go to a few specialists and they always weigh me. Even the hematologist who sees me for my blood clotting problem.
  • LAT1963
    LAT1963 Posts: 1,375 Member
    Have you checked with the medical board of your state to see if this 'doctor' of your is actually a licensed MD or DO, not a fraud?
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    Maybe you need to lift weights and tone up to lower your body fat % instead of losing more "weight" that will still leave you skinny fat, if that is the problem, I think?
  • Danalia
    Danalia Posts: 2 Member
    I think your bf and your dr are the same person since you mention your dr prefers skinny girls. Prefers skinny girls in what sense?

    Anyway I will be telling them to get stuffed and move on. Unless this entire post was just a joke (which it very we'll looks like).
  • Saramelie
    Saramelie Posts: 308 Member
    At a size 6-8 and 5'6" you are in no way overweight. 800 calories a day is not enough to keep you going. What reason has your doctor given you for suggesting such a low amount? There must be another reason or is he saying you are fat??! Personally I would change my doctor! Go get on the scale, do the Scooby calculator or something similar an follow what they advise. Log your calories and exercise on here to achieve your goal. Which is what by the way? Please don't drop your intake to 800cals. Unless your doctor has given you a very sound reason to do so, but I can't think of one.

    This!!!!!!
  • BeAnInspirationToday
    BeAnInspirationToday Posts: 8
    Hi guys I am as well new to the app and I have been struggling with my weight so far all my life and I am so determined to get healthy my start weight was 247 I am 5'6 I am currently 234 about four weeks into my exercise routine which is gym 5 days a week doing cardio bike or treadmill for 60 mins and really watching what im eating i feel I am kinda stuck any ideas ?
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    Hi guys I am as well new to the app and I have been struggling with my weight so far all my life and I am so determined to get healthy my start weight was 247 I am 5'6 I am currently 234 about four weeks into my exercise routine which is gym 5 days a week doing cardio bike or treadmill for 60 mins and really watching what im eating i feel I am kinda stuck any ideas ?
    Huh? 13lbs in a month is hardly stuck :indifferent:
  • BeAnInspirationToday
    BeAnInspirationToday Posts: 8
    Its just I am at that same loss for the past two times I stepped on the scale .. should I be loosing more or is that where I should be
  • acorsaut89
    acorsaut89 Posts: 1,147 Member
    Hi guys I am as well new to the app and I have been struggling with my weight so far all my life and I am so determined to get healthy my start weight was 247 I am 5'6 I am currently 234 about four weeks into my exercise routine which is gym 5 days a week doing cardio bike or treadmill for 60 mins and really watching what im eating i feel I am kinda stuck any ideas ?

    Are you relying on MFP to give you your calorie burn? If so, You may be over estimating how much you actually burn.

    Are you being honest and truthful about what you're eating? I know when I started, I was amazed at how little 100g of this or 1/4 cup of that was. If you aren't weighing/measuring you could be under estimating what you're eating.

    Third, when you introduce exercise or change up your exercise routine, your body's fat cells will retain water in anticipation of being filled up with fat stores again. When this doesn't happen, they will depleat but it doesn't happen over night - or at least one night, but it can seem to happen right away. This is also known as the "whoosh" effect because it's almost like it all of a sudden drops.

    There is also weight lifting or heavy lifting but keep in mind that weight/strength training will take longer to show - it will last longer though - but if you're looking for something instantly then this is not it. Cardio calories are only good for today and will allow you to eat more - this is generally the beginning step and can help condition your body.

    Starvation mode is a myth though, in case any one suggests that to you.

    Feel free to add me if you'd like :)
  • BeAnInspirationToday
    BeAnInspirationToday Posts: 8
    I know mfp really does over do the burn I go by machine on calories burned ... im confused haha I am being honest with all my logs and my weekend cheats and the weight was coming off but I feel its stopped ...
  • DLKadlecek
    DLKadlecek Posts: 11
    This sounds like a prank to me. Someone wanting to have some fun. If you're afraid to step on a scale at 5'6" and wear a size 6 you standards are that of a Revenge of the Nerd style sorority.
  • Aemely
    Aemely Posts: 694 Member
    Very skinny troll paid for by HGH company? Or, person in dire need of therapy for BDD (http://www.adaa.org/understanding-anxiety/related-illnesses/other-related-conditions/body-dysmorphic-disorder-bdd)? I cannot decide. :huh:

    Whatever the case may be, clearly the MFP community does not encourage starvation or damaging drugs. Good job, all!

    Per http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/human-growth-hormone-hgh , "Possible side effects of HGH use include:

    * nerve, muscle, or joint pain
    * swelling due to fluid in the body's tissues (edema)
    * carpal tunnel syndrome
    * numbness and tingling of the skin
    * high cholesterol levels

    HGH can also increase the risk of diabetes and contribute to the growth of cancerous tumors.

    Furthermore, if you get the drug illicitly, you may not know what you are really getting. Because of the high cost, HGH drugs have been counterfeited. If you are not getting HGH from your doctor, you may be getting an unapproved product."
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    Its just I am at that same loss for the past two times I stepped on the scale .. should I be loosing more or is that where I should be
    Ah okay. Overall your loss has been great so far - well above normal expectations. But, it fluctuates; using myself as an example, I lost nothing last week after 2 weeks of losing, but lost again this week.

    Stick with what you're doing :)
  • BeAnInspirationToday
    BeAnInspirationToday Posts: 8
    Yahh ok good to know !! Thanks ????
  • DLKadlecek
    DLKadlecek Posts: 11
    I know mfp really does over do the burn I go by machine on calories burned ... im confused haha I am being honest with all my logs and my weekend cheats and the weight was coming off but I feel its stopped ...

    Are you swiching up your work outs? Our bodies go into auto piolet after doing a few of the same things in a row. I work out 45-60 5 x a week switch between power walking/jogging, biking, and swimming--sometimes I hike too. Try switching it up this week and maybe up your speeds for some of your workouts too.
  • BeAnInspirationToday
    BeAnInspirationToday Posts: 8
    Ok will try this to ! Thanks !!
  • davidpoolman5
    davidpoolman5 Posts: 18
    any ideas on how to burn belly fat ? Got the arms and the pecs eateing right and doing cardio alot still cnat seem to burn it off
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    Froggymcconnell Posts: 92 Member
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