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Just reading through the crossfit faq and came across this doozy
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#General4
http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#General4
Now I am all for xfit as cardio but this claim is flat out retarded.1.5. Will I/can I get big doing CrossFit?
If you train the WODs hard, and eat right and get lots of sleep, you will definitely gain lean mass, lose fat, and yes, you can build muscle mass with the crossfit protocol. More specifically, according to Coach,
Here is a hierarchy of training for mass from greater to lesser efficacy:
1. Bodybuilding on steroids
2. CrossFitting on steroids
3. CrossFitting without steroids
4. Bodybuilding without steroids
The bodybuilding model is designed around, requires, steroids for significant hypertrophy.
The neuroendocrine response of bodybuilding protocols is so blunted that without "exogenous hormonal therapy" little happens.
The CrossFit protocol is designed to elicit a substantial neuroendocrine whollop and hence packs an anabolic punch that puts on impressive amounts of muscle though that is not our concern. Strength is.
Natural bodybuilders (the natural ones that are not on steroids) never approach the mass that our ahtletes do. They don't come close.
Those athletes who train for function end up with better form than those who value form over function. This is one of the beautiful ironies of training.
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"Those athletes who train for function end up with better form than those who value form over function."
Many torn rotary cuffs and herniated disks beg to differ.0 -
Ya that claim is a bit perplexing. WTF does "training for function" actually mean? Without good form (regardless of workout) you are going to **** yourself eventually.0
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WOW, that's complete nonsense. More made up malarkey from the Crossfit crowd...0
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Jelos0
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I guess Arnie was secretly doing xfit back in the 70s... No wonder people hate crossfit so much.
Yo crossfit do you even science?0 -
Weird. Form is very important at the box I go to. There a lot of buff guys and girls who only do CrossFit there but I don't think this FAQ is explaining it right. We do a lot of weight lifting. You can do that at a CrossFit box or at a normal gym or in your basement/whatever. What is the difference? Pick your preference, that is all.0
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Arnold admittedly used steroids0
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I remember having a good laugh at that last year.
Bold claims indeed.
ETA:
And before we go down the inevitable path, I'm a crossfit defender. My experience at a local crossfit gym was nothing but awesome, the trainers were all remarkably well-educated and credentialed (and yes, not just crossfit certifications)...most were in school to be PTs, chiropractors, other physiology related fields...with a lot of experience.
So I've tried it...I believe in it...it's an awesome way to get in great shape and it's a lot of fun...
...but none of that changes the fact that the claims referenced in OP are really out there and are more marketing-based than reality-based.0 -
Damn!Arnold admittedly used steroids0 -
Just an FYI, in one year of CrossFit I went from a size 8 to a size 4 in pants, and from a medium to an x-small shirt. Don't knock it til ya try it. I'm eating twice as many calories as when I began, but far more focused on my macro nutrients and learned to eat much more wisely. I started my journey at about 125lbs in February of 2013. In the first 6 months or so my weight fell to 112lbs as I lost massive amounts of fat... Now I have begun to put on some amazing muscle and have gone back up to 122lbs.
If you work hard and safely, you will have amazing results through CrossFit. I picked up obstacle course races and have seen excellent progress as I continue my training, as CrossFit teaches a full range of different movements and has you practice them quite often. It also builds your self confidence and promotes improved posture as you are working out many muscle groups, avoiding the imbalances that many gym-goers suffer from.
If you want to learn more about it, please feel free to message me. I would LOVE to provide more information about CrossFit because it has been a life changer for me, and I hate to see people possibly miss out on something that could help them as much as it has helped me.0 -
Just an FYI, in one year of CrossFit I went from a size 8 to a size 4 in pants, and from a medium to an x-small shirt. Don't knock it til ya try it. I'm eating twice as many calories as when I began, but far more focused on my macro nutrients and learned to eat much more wisely. I started my journey at about 125lbs in February of 2013. In the first 6 months or so my weight fell to 112lbs as I lost massive amounts of fat... Now I have begun to put on some amazing muscle and have gone back up to 122lbs.
If you work hard and safely, you will have amazing results through CrossFit. I picked up obstacle course races and have seen excellent progress as I continue my training, as CrossFit teaches a full range of different movements and has you practice them quite often. It also builds your self confidence and promotes improved posture as you are working out many muscle groups, avoiding the imbalances that many gym-goers suffer from.
If you want to learn more about it, please feel free to message me. I would LOVE to provide more information about CrossFit because it has been a life changer for me, and I hate to see people possibly miss out on something that could help them as much as it has helped me.
So...how does this pertain to the claims listed in the OP??0 -
Just saying I've seen amazing results through CrossFit, it's not "just for cardio"0
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Just for the record I do crossfit 4 times a week and lift 3 times a week but this claim on the xfit site is just disingenuous. I would never get huge if I just did the crossfit, it just won't happen.Just an FYI, in one year of CrossFit I went from a size 8 to a size 4 in pants, and from a medium to an x-small shirt. Don't knock it til ya try it. I'm eating twice as many calories as when I began, but far more focused on my macro nutrients and learned to eat much more wisely. I started my journey at about 125lbs in February of 2013. In the first 6 months or so my weight fell to 112lbs as I lost massive amounts of fat... Now I have begun to put on some amazing muscle and have gone back up to 122lbs.
If you work hard and safely, you will have amazing results through CrossFit. I picked up obstacle course races and have seen excellent progress as I continue my training, as CrossFit teaches a full range of different movements and has you practice them quite often. It also builds your self confidence and promotes improved posture as you are working out many muscle groups, avoiding the imbalances that many gym-goers suffer from.
If you want to learn more about it, please feel free to message me. I would LOVE to provide more information about CrossFit because it has been a life changer for me, and I hate to see people possibly miss out on something that could help them as much as it has helped me.0 -
Well, they put this claim out there for marketing, to try to capture those newer folks trying body building and not putting on much muscle yet and to try to counter what is observed in real life. I think its pretty obvious if you look at groups of people, both in what I've seen, and the view of others, there is a perception that Crossfitters tend to do a good job getting lean and bodybuilders are strong/muscular. Even Crossfitters themselves will tell you they gain a lot of muscle and generally agree with the claims above, but if you listen to what they say, they tell you they got lean and gained some muscle, not that they were more efficiently gaining or more massive than bodybuilders, just like the girl Crossfitter who posted before mine above is a prime example of
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Just an FYI, in one year of CrossFit I went from a size 8 to a size 4 in pants, and from a medium to an x-small shirt. Don't knock it til ya try it. I'm eating twice as many calories as when I began, but far more focused on my macro nutrients and learned to eat much more wisely. I started my journey at about 125lbs in February of 2013. In the first 6 months or so my weight fell to 112lbs as I lost massive amounts of fat... Now I have begun to put on some amazing muscle and have gone back up to 122lbs.
If you work hard and safely, you will have amazing results through CrossFit. I picked up obstacle course races and have seen excellent progress as I continue my training, as CrossFit teaches a full range of different movements and has you practice them quite often. It also builds your self confidence and promotes improved posture as you are working out many muscle groups, avoiding the imbalances that many gym-goers suffer from.
If you want to learn more about it, please feel free to message me. I would LOVE to provide more information about CrossFit because it has been a life changer for me, and I hate to see people possibly miss out on something that could help them as much as it has helped me.
Thank you for the most irrelevant comment to this thread that could possibly have been added...
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Just an FYI, in one year of CrossFit I went from a size 8 to a size 4 in pants, and from a medium to an x-small shirt. Don't knock it til ya try it. I'm eating twice as many calories as when I began, but far more focused on my macro nutrients and learned to eat much more wisely. I started my journey at about 125lbs in February of 2013. In the first 6 months or so my weight fell to 112lbs as I lost massive amounts of fat... Now I have begun to put on some amazing muscle and have gone back up to 122lbs.
If you work hard and safely, you will have amazing results through CrossFit. I picked up obstacle course races and have seen excellent progress as I continue my training, as CrossFit teaches a full range of different movements and has you practice them quite often. It also builds your self confidence and promotes improved posture as you are working out many muscle groups, avoiding the imbalances that many gym-goers suffer from.
If you want to learn more about it, please feel free to message me. I would LOVE to provide more information about CrossFit because it has been a life changer for me, and I hate to see people possibly miss out on something that could help them as much as it has helped me.
Thank you for the most irrelevant comment to this thread that could possibly have been added...
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My claims about success in CrossFit are irrelevant in a thread about CrossFit claims? Okay then.... :noway:0
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My claims about success in CrossFit are irrelevant in a thread about CrossFit claims? Okay then.... :noway:
They are irrelevant to what was posted in the OP. It's not about experience or how Crossfit changed your life. It's about the claims that were made which are ridiculous.0 -
My claims about success in CrossFit are irrelevant in a thread about CrossFit claims? Okay then.... :noway:
To put a finer point on things, yes.
The issue is the claim that one can ONLY get big by doing crossfit or by using anabolic steroids.
It's great you've found something that you are passionate about & it's helped you get fit & strong, but that's not what is being discussed here.
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