Eating only vegetables to loose weight

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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    If you eat a proper vegan diet it is absolutely healthy and you can thrive and reach your diet and fitness goals. And you will have the added benefit of eating and living a compassionate lifestyle. There is absolutely no biological imperative for humans to eat meat. If you take the time to learn how to do it right a plant based diet is an extremely healthy choice.

    Yeah but I love my meat.
  • RawIndian
    RawIndian Posts: 90 Member
    Not just vegetables, but I would include equal amount of fruits and atleast one cup of steamed beans.

    I recommend reading "Eat to Live" that will guide you through losing weight (and getting healthy) using primarily fruits and vegetables.

    In the end it is the calorie deficit and eating a well balanced meal in the calories you consume is all that matters.
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    I do not know why so many on here suggest so much fruit, fruit is very sugary and not good to over eat!

    Some fruit is necessary. Sugar of itself is not bad. Fruit provides other things when eaten in whole form. Vitamins, antioxidents, and fiber to begin with. If your overall calorie level is a slight calorie deficit with enough protein and some EFA's, then a combination of fresh fruits and vegatables is necessary. I would say fruit is more important than breads and pastas when trying to loose weight.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    vegetables are great...but there's a lot more to actual nutrition and health than just eating vegetables.

    Of course you would lose weight doing that...vegetables aren't very calorie dense so you would naturally be creating a rather substantial calorie deficit in most cases...an energy (calorie) deficit is what causes your body to burn fat (stored energy) to make up the difference. So yeah, you would obviously lose weight...but your diet (noun) would be substantially lacking in nutrition depending on what you considered to be "vegetable"

    I agree.I am fine with loosing it at slower rate since I can still eat foods that I love without depriving myself
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    If you eat a proper vegan diet it is absolutely healthy and you can thrive and reach your diet and fitness goals. And you will have the added benefit of eating and living a compassionate lifestyle. There is absolutely no biological imperative for humans to eat meat. If you take the time to learn how to do it right a plant based diet is an extremely healthy choice.

    Yeah but I love my meat.


    You have to do tons of research and be very dedicated to get in enough protein with the correct essential amino acids. it's just much easier when you add in some meat sources. Even if it was chicken and fish.
  • AtmaKing
    AtmaKing Posts: 145 Member
    Devils advocate here.

    You can get plenty of protein and nutrients from vegetables. i.e. Vegetarians and Vegans.

    That being said. More than likely the reason he probably lost a ton of weight was because he ate foods, vegetables that had lower calories than he used to eat. He ended up feeling full eating them and by default was eating at a deficit. If he doesn’t watch what he eats now, either by eating a maintenance amount he will gain the weight back.

    To lose weight you must eat at a deficit. If you find eating veggies helps you great. But when you eat real food again just know you may overeat to get that “full” feeling you had when eating just vegetables. I’d probably go the route of eating what you currently are, just eating it at a deficit overall it will be the most sustainable way for most people in the long run.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Ok,i guess you miss my point. I clearly said my friend is the one who did it not me and I was just wondering if I do it would I get the same results.I said ``wondering``not planning.I am fully aware that its unhealthy and you are likely to gain the weight back fast.I just wanted to hear other people opinion not to be bashed thanks

    Okay. No, you would not get the same results. I'm skeptical that he did (44 lbs, it's certainly likely he lost a lot of weight depending on how he defined "vegetable," how many calories he was eating, etc.), but if he is a really big guy with lots to lose and just started or otherwise had lots of water weight to lose also it could happen.

    But to do the math, 44 lbs is about 154,000 calories. Over 30 days that means a deficit of more than 5000 calories/day. It's unlikely you are eating anywhere near 5000 calories (more likely half that or less) and your maintenance needed now is similarly going to be around there or even less, so even defining vegetables restrictively, which would make the number of calories consumed unhealthy and akin to a crazy crash diet, you'd lose far less, even in the best case scenario, and a lot of that would be muscle, as well as some water.
  • DerekVTX
    DerekVTX Posts: 287 Member
    But...but....but protein?!

    No, bad idea. Why would you do that? Just eat at a reasonable deficit and you'll lose weight.

    No I am not planning to do this.I love food too much and I am fine with loosing it at a slower rate

    You can't go to the gym and not have protein. Your body will break down it's existing muscle mass with no way to recover. In the end, you will end up an ugly skin and bones. Protein to maintain muscle mass while in calorie deficit. You will be much better in the long run.

    44 pounds in a month is 11 lbs a week. Very unhealthy rate of lossing. 3 pounds a week is pushing your limits for a healthy long term plan.

    Thats a 5500 calorie a day defecit........I guess if you did hard cardio for 6 hours a day (1000 Cal/hr rate), ate 500 cal worth of veggies.....you could lose 44lbs in a month..........I would of thought this impossible though......well I still do!
  • cookiealbright
    cookiealbright Posts: 605 Member
    Some days I eat on fruit, vegetables and dairy. But if you go over your calories whatever you eat will cause you to gain. I try to eat a variety of foods, but stay within my calorie goal.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    My opinion is this is a horrible way to lose weight. How much of that is muscle? If he's working out at the gym, what fuels his muscles? Where is the protein and amino acids? I'd never take this approach and I'm glad you're not. Muscle weighing more than fat I'm not too shocked he lost so much weight.

    thanks for answering my question respectfully.Unlike others who started bashing me as if I said I was planning to do this.I guess they missed the point
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  • KylaDenay
    KylaDenay Posts: 1,585 Member
    Why? Just why? Keep up what your doing and do it the right way. Good luck!
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Devils advocate here.

    You can get plenty of protein and nutrients from vegetables. i.e. Vegetarians and Vegans.

    Depends on what is meant by vegetables, as was pointed out upthread. If one is consuming enough beans and grains the like to make up an adequate amount of protein, the calories aren't going to be so low as to lead to the allegedly extreme result, unless the guy is morbidly obese, of course. It wouldn't result in a result different than any other way of eating at a deficit. Most likely we are talking about some kind of extreme deficit (similar to juice fasts) based on just eating non-starchy vegetables, which is not the usual balanced vegan diet, let alone the typical vegetarian one (which generally includes eggs and dairy and soy, etc.).

    Can you be a healthy vegan or vegetarian? Sure, obviously. Will that cause you to lose an extreme amount of weight without some other way of achieving a calorie deficit? Nope.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    Not just vegetables, but I would include equal amount of fruits and atleast one cup of steamed beans.

    I recommend reading "Eat to Live" that will guide you through losing weight (and getting healthy) using primarily fruits and vegetables.

    In the end it is the calorie deficit and eating a well balanced meal in the calories you consume is all that matters.

    ok
  • EvanKeel
    EvanKeel Posts: 1,904 Member
    But...but....but protein?!
    Peas, Potatoes, Brussel sprouts, Brocolli, Corn (OK technically a grain) and if your counting beans as vegetables tons of protein there.

    It's possible that we have different definitions of "tons of protein." legumes are great, but I mostly eat them for fiber. The fact that they have some protein is a minor bonus, but still fairly minor.

    You kind of have to work hard to find a decent protein-to-calorie ratio if we limit ourselves to veggies. If I didn't care how many carbs or total calories I was eating, sure. I could adequate protein by excluding meat and dairy.
    Devils advocate here.

    You can get plenty of protein and nutrients from vegetables. i.e. Vegetarians and Vegans.

    I've looked into doing a vegan body recomp that incorporates decent amounts of protein (along with lifting, etc). It does not look fun. I think one's goals sort of determine what "plenty" is.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    Devils advocate here.

    You can get plenty of protein and nutrients from vegetables. i.e. Vegetarians and Vegans.

    That being said. More than likely the reason he probably lost a ton of weight was because he ate foods, vegetables that had lower calories than he used to eat. He ended up feeling full eating them and by default was eating at a deficit. If he doesn’t watch what he eats now, either by eating a maintenance amount he will gain the weight back.

    To lose weight you must eat at a deficit. If you find eating veggies helps you great. But when you eat real food again just know you may overeat to get that “full” feeling you had when eating just vegetables. I’d probably go the route of eating what you currently are, just eating it at a deficit overall it will be the most sustainable way for most people in the long run.

    agreed
  • Stoshew71
    Stoshew71 Posts: 6,553 Member
    You could eat a Snickers for breakfast (250 cal) and a packet of Reese's cups (210 cal) for lunch and then a 600-700 dinner and have the same results.

    Not really. At least with the Special K you are getting some protein with the milk and some essential fatty acids. The whole grains in the cereal (Special K is whole grains, right?) will make your body work harder and will have a slow absorbption rate so your blood sugar doesn't raise quite as fast. The Reese's cups and Snickers on the other hand is loaded with processed sugar. The simple sugar get's into your blood stream much faster, which raises your blood sugar much faster, which then your body sends out insulin and other harmones to lower your blood sugar. The excess sugar that is immediately taken out of your blood is then stored either as glycogen or temporarily as fat. Soon after you feel a little crash and you can't make it through the day without feeling a little sluggush, so your body sends out other harmones to tap into that storage you just created while at the same time creating a craving.

    In the end, yeah, the number of calories is the same deficit, but your body won't work the same way and it's much harder mentally to sustain those hours just before dinner. Plus you would be lacking in protein and other vitamins and vital minerals.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    Ok,i guess you miss my point. I clearly said my friend is the one who did it not me and I was just wondering if I do it would I get the same results.I said ``wondering``not planning.I am fully aware that its unhealthy and you are likely to gain the weight back fast.I just wanted to hear other people opinion not to be bashed thanks

    Okay. No, you would not get the same results. I'm skeptical that he did (44 lbs, it's certainly likely he lost a lot of weight depending on how he defined "vegetable," how many calories he was eating, etc.), but if he is a really big guy with lots to lose and just started or otherwise had lots of water weight to lose also it could happen.

    But to do the math, 44 lbs is about 154,000 calories. Over 30 days that means a deficit of more than 5000 calories/day. It's unlikely you are eating anywhere near 5000 calories (more likely half that or less) and your maintenance needed now is similarly going to be around there or even less, so even defining vegetables restrictively, which would make the number of calories consumed unhealthy and akin to a crazy crash diet, you'd lose far less, even in the best case scenario, and a lot of that would be muscle, as well as some water.


    ok thanx :)
  • dmenchac
    dmenchac Posts: 447 Member
    With no protein I bet he looks likes a skinny, fluffy pillow.
  • delicious_cocktail
    delicious_cocktail Posts: 5,797 Member
    44 pounds in a month? Your friend is mistaken. The only way to do that is liposuction or amputation.
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    Why would you do that????? Do you have some medical condition that says you can only eat vegetables??

    Any "diet" is ridiculous. Yes, many people do stupid things and lose weight but it doesn't mean that it's healthy or the right way to do it.

    Your body need protein and without it all you're going to do is lose muscle while you lose the weight then where are you going to be?? Thin and weak.

    Try to find some common sense(because it appears you don't have any) and just eat balanced and healthy and exercise and you will lose the weight.


    Ok,i guess you miss my point. I clearly said my friend is the one who did it not me and I was just wondering if I do it would I get the same results.I said ``wondering``not planning.I am fully aware that its unhealthy and you are likely to gain the weight back fast.I just wanted to hear other people opinion not to be bashed thanks
    Wait.. so you already know it's not healthy ?

    Why in the name of gravy would you even start this thread and expect anything positive to come from it?
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    I do not know why so many on here suggest so much fruit, fruit is very sugary and not good to over eat!

    Hmm. I haven't noticed that, unless by "so much fruit" you mean any. Fruit contains lots of sugar, but it's still not that high in calories by comparison with lots of other foods, quite filling, IME, probably because of the fiber, good at delivering energy (that sugar), has nutrients, and plus there's nothing wrong with sugar as long as it's not kicking you over your calorie or carb targets.

    Now, it's not good to overeat, of course, in that nothing is, but what "overeating" is is the question. The idea that fruit is somehow bad for you strikes me as silly, although maybe in some with certain health disorders it is, just as people with peanut allergies shouldn't consume peanuts, but the rest of us have no reason to avoid them.
  • Just reading this makes me want some bread spread thick with butter and a big juicy steak or a whole rack of ribs...
  • AllOutof_Bubblegum
    AllOutof_Bubblegum Posts: 3,646 Member
    While this diet WILL work to make you lose weight, the negative side effects will far outweigh the benefits.

    Benefits:

    *Weight loss

    Detriments:

    *Being fracking STARVING, and getting bored of such a restrictive diet, increasing chances of falling off the wagon and bingeing

    * An extreme protein deficiency.

    *Losing a large amount of muscle along with body fat. Weight loss isn't always a good thing. When you are in a calorie deficit, you cannot guarantee that the weight you lose will be fat or muscle. This can result in the dreaded "skinny fat" look, which can be just as unhealthy and unsightly as being overweight. A true "out of the pan, into the fire" situation that you don't want to put yourself into. (this is why people lift weights while in a calorie deficit to preserve the muscle)

    *It is completely unnecessary. You can eat whatever you want to lose weight, as long as you stay in a deficit. Vegetables are great, and good for you, but they lack MANY essential vitamins and nutrients that your body needs to function. Namely proteins and fats.

    *Did I mention you will be miserable, and starving?

    *When eating and extremely restrictive diet, you are not learning proper eating habits. Yes, it's easier to just say "ok, no breads or sugars or fats. JUST vegetables!" But how sustainable is that? Are you learning how to properly feed yourself? When you stop the nonsense vegetable diet, what is to guarantee that you will not pack every pound back on? It's harder, but much more beneficial in the long run to learn how to eat a healthy, balanced diet, and know your calorie requirements.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    Why would you do that????? Do you have some medical condition that says you can only eat vegetables??

    Any "diet" is ridiculous. Yes, many people do stupid things and lose weight but it doesn't mean that it's healthy or the right way to do it.

    Your body need protein and without it all you're going to do is lose muscle while you lose the weight then where are you going to be?? Thin and weak.

    Try to find some common sense(because it appears you don't have any) and just eat balanced and healthy and exercise and you will lose the weight.


    Ok,i guess you miss my point. I clearly said my friend is the one who did it not me and I was just wondering if I do it would I get the same results.I said ``wondering``not planning.I am fully aware that its unhealthy and you are likely to gain the weight back fast.I just wanted to hear other people opinion not to be bashed thanks
    Wait.. so you already know it's not healthy ?

    Why in the name of gravy would you even start this thread and expect anything positive to come from it?

    I guess you also miss my point as well.You clearly as ignorant than the other user you are defending.enough said:devil:
    I clearly said I wanted to hear other people opinion about the subject and i wasn't planning to do this ,not being attacked personally. like what this other user did.Look around other people response ,you will see that they offered their opinion without bashing me personally
  • Some people on this forum seems to lack good reading skills for bashing the OP.
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    While this diet WILL work to make you lose weight, the negative side effects will far outweigh the benefits.

    Benefits:

    *Weight loss

    Detriments:

    *Being fracking STARVING, and getting bored of such a restrictive diet, increasing chances of falling off the wagon and bingeing

    * An extreme protein deficiency.

    *Losing a large amount of muscle along with body fat. Weight loss isn't always a good thing. When you are in a calorie deficit, you cannot guarantee that the weight you lose will be fat or muscle. This can result in the dreaded "skinny fat" look, which can be just as unhealthy and unsightly as being overweight. A true "out of the pan, into the fire" situation that you don't want to put yourself into. (this is why people lift weights while in a calorie deficit to preserve the muscle)

    *It is completely unnecessary. You can eat whatever you want to lose weight, as long as you stay in a deficit. Vegetables are great, and good for you, but they lack MANY essential vitamins and nutrients that your body needs to function. Namely proteins and fats.

    *Did I mention you will be miserable, and starving?

    *When eating and extremely restrictive diet, you are not learning proper eating habits. Yes, it's easier to just say "ok, no breads or sugars or fats. JUST vegetables!" But how sustainable is that? Are you learning how to properly feed yourself? When you stop the nonsense vegetable diet, what is to guarantee that you will not pack every pound back on? It's harder, but much more beneficial in the long run to learn how to eat a healthy, balanced diet, and know your calorie requirements.

    Some people lift because they like to lift. Also without enough protein the muscle can still be used for energy.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    While this diet WILL work to make you lose weight, the negative side effects will far outweigh the benefits.

    Benefits:

    *Weight loss

    Detriments:

    *Being fracking STARVING, and getting bored of such a restrictive diet, increasing chances of falling off the wagon and bingeing

    * An extreme protein deficiency.

    *Losing a large amount of muscle along with body fat. Weight loss isn't always a good thing. When you are in a calorie deficit, you cannot guarantee that the weight you lose will be fat or muscle. This can result in the dreaded "skinny fat" look, which can be just as unhealthy and unsightly as being overweight. A true "out of the pan, into the fire" situation that you don't want to put yourself into. (this is why people lift weights while in a calorie deficit to preserve the muscle)

    *It is completely unnecessary. You can eat whatever you want to lose weight, as long as you stay in a deficit. Vegetables are great, and good for you, but they lack MANY essential vitamins and nutrients that your body needs to function. Namely proteins and fats.

    *Did I mention you will be miserable, and starving?

    *When eating and extremely restrictive diet, you are not learning proper eating habits. Yes, it's easier to just say "ok, no breads or sugars or fats. JUST vegetables!" But how sustainable is that? Are you learning how to properly feed yourself? When you stop the nonsense vegetable diet, what is to guarantee that you will not pack every pound back on? It's harder, but much more beneficial in the long run to learn how to eat a healthy, balanced diet, and know your calorie requirements.


    right to the point.thanks for your opinion
  • Branstin
    Branstin Posts: 2,320 Member
    I don't have anything against vegan or vegetarian dieters. The issue with your friend is he probably didn't learn anything about health, nutrition, and weight management. In addition to being very unfair to your body, another down side of fast dieting like this one is not giving yourself time to learn the facts about weight loss management which increases the odds of gaining the weight back. Personally, I am glad you are taking the time to ask questions and learn before doing something that could hurt you in the long run.
  • Tanie98
    Tanie98 Posts: 675 Member
    I don't have anything against vegan or vegetarian dieters. The issue with your friend is he probably didn't learn anything about health, nutrition, and weight management. In addition to being very unfair to your body, another down side of fast dieting like this one is not giving yourself time to learn the facts about weight loss management which increases the odds of gaining the weight back. Personally, I am glad you are taking the time to ask questions and learn before doing something that could hurt you in the long run.
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    thanks