Super obese, why isn't the weight falling off me?
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eat a high carb low fat plant based (vegan) diet...consisting of fruits, veggies, brown rice, potatoes etc and the weight will come off...dont restrict your carbs that will give you the energy to get up and move a bit! you will get there it takes time but stick with it...and go with how your body is feeling instead of the lbs on the scale...eat a diet like i suggested and you will feel better...you can message me if you need any specific tips...good luck
As a vegan who loves my carbs, I have to disagree with this. Besides, all the energy in the world won't help if your knee hurts too much to use it. Why not get a second opinion from another doctor, hopefully a specialist? No one here is in the place to tell you whether or not surgery is right for you or why you aren't losing. How frustrating though-I wish you well.
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I started at 335 and have been losing about 3.5 pounds a week on 1700-1800. I walk, too, but my understanding is that the supposed calorie burns are very exaggerated. If you are truly eating 1800 and not losing, it sounds like there's something else going on.
What this guy said right here. At over 400lbs and at 1800 calories a day you should be losing multiple lbs per week. If not, something else may be wrong.
Did you ask the doc about it?0 -
I'm not sure if I missed it somewhere but how long as the OP been logging?
Frankly no one knows at this point. We aren't even sure if OP has been reading any of this either.0 -
what do you "drink?"
i had weight loss surgery a year ago, and i have lost 100 pounds, i also have arthritis and was wheelchair bound a year ago..i now walk with just a cane. i don't regret having weight loss surgery for one minute, it is the BEST THING I HAVE EVER DONE!0 -
I think she was just saying that since the OP is basically eating at maintenance now....if she were to have some aerobic activity, that would create a deficit.
Could be, and while that's true, I just have to question whether exercise is really the best way to create a deficit when someone can barely walk. It seems more prudent to me to focus on creating a deficit through diet and treating any medical conditions that could be hindering her weight loss efforts, rather than worrying about exercise at this point.0 -
My first response, find another Dr. While I am not a Dr and wouldn't tell you to have or not have the surgery, I have seen many many people have issues with it. Some even life threatening. I know you're morbidly obese but that can all be changed one baby step at a time.
From my own personal experience: I had my Dr tell me I'd never loose unless I had WLS. I'm not at a great big high number of lbs lost, just 81 but I am proving him wrong. I have a non-functioning thyroid. It isn't easy to loose, but I'm doing it. I'd say take an honest look at your diary and yes measure. Have your body functions checked, there may be an underlying issue. (again, new doctor) As for not being able to exercise, I couldn't walk across a room without stopping to breath when I started, but I can run now and be ok. There are tons of seated exercises you can check out. You can get your heart rate up by moving those arms.
Just DON'T GIVE UP!!
You are awesome.
I vote this. I think it is some of the best advice you are going to find on a public forum such as this.0 -
Keep a food diary, use measuring cups and spoons to measure everything so that you know for sure how much you are eating.
Eat a whole foods plant based diet. Energy comes from carbs, not protein.
As for your knee, once the weight drops off this may potentially help the knee. If you ever walk upstairs with a heavy load and then drop the load it's easy to see how a few pounds lost makes an incredible difference as far as stress on our joints.
If you want, don't get on the scale. Use a measuring tape instead. Make the goal be a waist line under 35 inches.
If you are not losing weight and are truly only eating 1800 calories seek medical attention immediately. You may be retaining water due to a heart or other condition.eat a high carb low fat plant based (vegan) diet...consisting of fruits, veggies, brown rice, potatoes etc and the weight will come off...dont restrict your carbs that will give you the energy to get up and move a bit! you will get there it takes time but stick with it...and go with how your body is feeling instead of the lbs on the scale...eat a diet like i suggested and you will feel better...you can message me if you need any specific tips...good luck
As a vegan who loves my carbs, I have to disagree with this. Besides, all the energy in the world won't help if your knee hurts too much to use it. Why not get a second opinion from another doctor, hopefully a specialist? No one here is in the place to tell you whether or not surgery is right for you or why you aren't losing. How frustrating though-I wish you well.
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When I first got serious it took over a month to drop any weight. Some of us are just lucky. Hang in there--it WILL work.
There is no luck in weight loss.
There's a deficit and you lose weight.
Maintenance, maintaining your weight.
Or in a surplus, gaining weight.0 -
Thank you everyone for your feedback. To answer a few of your questions.... yes, I weigh, track and measure everything I eat so I am not overeating. So in reply to one person, no, I'm not "still stuffing my face." I don't know 100% I am insulin resistant but I am pre-diabetic so I probably am. I thought i was doing well with 40% carbs but could probably lower it more. I am hesitant to go too low with the carbs because I'm trying to make this a lifestyle change and if I do something very drastic I won't stick with it.
I do no exercise at all which I know is not good. As I mentioned I have severe arthritis pain in my knee. I had to get up in the middle of the night last night to ice my knee just so I could sleep. I do need to start exercising though, even if it's walking for short periods of time.
To those who said I'm a lost cause and surgery is my only option, I appreciate your opinion but I'm going to continue plugging away and hoping I can reduce the weight. I realize my health is in jeopardy and I need to lose weight as soon as possible but I'm hoping as the weight reduces I can increase the activity level which will result in greater losses.
Again, thanks for the feedback and keep it coming if you have any suggestions!0 -
It could be that it's not a matter of how much carbs, but what kind of carbs. If it's mostly veggies with some fruit, that's good. If it consists of sugar, high fructose corn syrup and grains, that might not be so good.Thank you everyone for your feedback. To answer a few of your questions.... yes, I weigh, track and measure everything I eat so I am not overeating. So in reply to one person, no, I'm not "still stuffing my face." I don't know 100% I am insulin resistant but I am pre-diabetic so I probably am. I thought i was doing well with 40% carbs but could probably lower it more. I am hesitant to go too low with the carbs because I'm trying to make this a lifestyle change and if I do something very drastic I won't stick with it.
Not everybody is the same so it may take some experimentation to find out what works best for you.0 -
Keep a food diary, use measuring cups and spoons to measure everything so that you know for sure how much you are eating.
Eat a whole foods plant based diet. Energy comes from carbs, not protein.
As for your knee, once the weight drops off this may potentially help the knee. If you ever walk upstairs with a heavy load and then drop the load it's easy to see how a few pounds lost makes an incredible difference as far as stress on our joints.
If you want, don't get on the scale. Use a measuring tape instead. Make the goal be a waist line under 35 inches.
If you are not losing weight and are truly only eating 1800 calories seek medical attention immediately. You may be retaining water due to a heart or other condition.eat a high carb low fat plant based (vegan) diet...consisting of fruits, veggies, brown rice, potatoes etc and the weight will come off...dont restrict your carbs that will give you the energy to get up and move a bit! you will get there it takes time but stick with it...and go with how your body is feeling instead of the lbs on the scale...eat a diet like i suggested and you will feel better...you can message me if you need any specific tips...good luck
As a vegan who loves my carbs, I have to disagree with this. Besides, all the energy in the world won't help if your knee hurts too much to use it. Why not get a second opinion from another doctor, hopefully a specialist? No one here is in the place to tell you whether or not surgery is right for you or why you aren't losing. How frustrating though-I wish you well.
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Energy comes from ALL macros, protein carbs and fat. Your body uses a process called gluconeogenesis to break proteins and fatty acids down into glucose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis0 -
I had knee issues when I started too but the weight loss improved my knee condition before my knee surgery...Much of the pain at the knee is caused by the extra weight pressure on the knee...Get your metabolism up by walking 5 to 10K steps a day, just that will take you a long way, that's what I did, no gym, no running and I am losing 2 to 4 lb a week ...I will say that measuring is crucial. My calorie objective is currently 1500 and I am often around 1350 so I can't talk for 1800 but I assume that this is not high given your current weight. Ensure your protein, water and fibers are suffiscient and mainly believe that you can do it
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Thank you everyone for your feedback. To answer a few of your questions.... yes, I weigh, track and measure everything I eat so I am not overeating. So in reply to one person, no, I'm not "still stuffing my face." I don't know 100% I am insulin resistant but I am pre-diabetic so I probably am. I thought i was doing well with 40% carbs but could probably lower it more. I am hesitant to go too low with the carbs because I'm trying to make this a lifestyle change and if I do something very drastic I won't stick with it.
I do no exercise at all which I know is not good. As I mentioned I have severe arthritis pain in my knee. I had to get up in the middle of the night last night to ice my knee just so I could sleep. I do need to start exercising though, even if it's walking for short periods of time.
To those who said I'm a lost cause and surgery is my only option, I appreciate your opinion but I'm going to continue plugging away and hoping I can reduce the weight. I realize my health is in jeopardy and I need to lose weight as soon as possible but I'm hoping as the weight reduces I can increase the activity level which will result in greater losses.
Again, thanks for the feedback and keep it coming if you have any suggestions!
Despite some of the rude replies, I don't think anyone said your are a lost cause. Even if you eventually DO need surgery, it doesn't mean you are a lost cause. :flowerforyou:
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Thank you everyone for your feedback. To answer a few of your questions.... yes, I weigh, track and measure everything I eat so I am not overeating. So in reply to one person, no, I'm not "still stuffing my face." I don't know 100% I am insulin resistant but I am pre-diabetic so I probably am. I thought i was doing well with 40% carbs but could probably lower it more. I am hesitant to go too low with the carbs because I'm trying to make this a lifestyle change and if I do something very drastic I won't stick with it.
I do no exercise at all which I know is not good. As I mentioned I have severe arthritis pain in my knee. I had to get up in the middle of the night last night to ice my knee just so I could sleep. I do need to start exercising though, even if it's walking for short periods of time.
To those who said I'm a lost cause and surgery is my only option, I appreciate your opinion but I'm going to continue plugging away and hoping I can reduce the weight. I realize my health is in jeopardy and I need to lose weight as soon as possible but I'm hoping as the weight reduces I can increase the activity level which will result in greater losses.
Again, thanks for the feedback and keep it coming if you have any suggestions!
Please read the links. I think they will help you.
You are definitely not a lost cause and I think you can do this!!!
You don't have to cut carbs unless you want, but if might be good to meet with a registered dietitian if you haven't already. You can show them what you've been eating/logging etc. If you think you might be insulin resistant then get to the MD and see if there's a test. My mom was diagnoses with pre-diabetes and she wasn't insulin resistant, I think pre-diabetes is a "you're on the verge of being" but I am not a medical professional.
Is there a pool near you that you could use? If not, I know walking is hard, but maybe try walking every day for say 3 minutes. Do that for 1-2 weeks, then try 4 minutes for another 1-2 weeks. Just build it up? But if you can find a pool then water aerobics will be AWESOME for you. Though you can lose the weight without exercise.
Just in case (easy to get lost with all this info)Here's some information that might help
Log your food accurately and honestly. Go for 80% good choices the other 20% don't worry so much about. I eat lots of delicious food and have consistently lost. Keep it simple find a REASONABLE deficit:
If you have 75+ lbs to lose 2 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 40-75 lbs to lose 1.5 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 25-40 lbs to lose 1 lbs/week is ideal
If you have 15 -25 lbs to lose 0.5 to 1.0 lbs/week is ideal
If you have less than 15 lbs to lose 0.5 lbs/week is ideal
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1234699-logging-accurately-step-by-step-guide?hl=logging+step+guide
Find an activity you enjoy doing - I found I love to ride my bike and lift heavy stuff
Here are 2 more threads that will help take the time to read them:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants0 -
Thank you everyone for your feedback. To answer a few of your questions.... yes, I weigh, track and measure everything I eat so I am not overeating. So in reply to one person, no, I'm not "still stuffing my face." I don't know 100% I am insulin resistant but I am pre-diabetic so I probably am. I thought i was doing well with 40% carbs but could probably lower it more. I am hesitant to go too low with the carbs because I'm trying to make this a lifestyle change and if I do something very drastic I won't stick with it.
I do no exercise at all which I know is not good. As I mentioned I have severe arthritis pain in my knee. I had to get up in the middle of the night last night to ice my knee just so I could sleep. I do need to start exercising though, even if it's walking for short periods of time.
To those who said I'm a lost cause and surgery is my only option, I appreciate your opinion but I'm going to continue plugging away and hoping I can reduce the weight. I realize my health is in jeopardy and I need to lose weight as soon as possible but I'm hoping as the weight reduces I can increase the activity level which will result in greater losses.
Again, thanks for the feedback and keep it coming if you have any suggestions!
I would imagine you are insulin resistant, as most who are obese have some degree of IR.
Do you take antidiabetic medication such as Metformin?
I am insulin resistant myself and take Metformin. When I started, I was eating 230-250 g carbs a day. I wasn't losing weight. I began following FirstLine Therapy's program which is a Mediterranean style, low glycemic diet. I've cut back my carb intake to 90-130 g and have lost 2.5 lbs over the last 2 weeks. I would definitely cut back on your carb intake and make sure you are eating complex carbs only. Since you are pre-diabetic, it's necessary that you stay away from simple carbs.
The plan I follow allows for:
- 1 serving of grains a day
- 1 serving of category 2 vegetables (starchy veggies like potatoes, carrots, and beets)
- At least 5 servings of category 1 vegetables (non-starchy veggies like peppers, cucumbers, broccoli, cauliflower, etc….. 1 serving= 1/2 cup)
- 2-3 servings of LEAN protein a day (1 serving= 3-4 oz)
- 1 serving of legumes a day (1 serving= 1/2 cup beans, 1/4 cup hummus)
- 2 servings of fruit a day (2 cups watermelon= 1 serving, 1.5 cups raspberries= 1 serving, 1 cup strawberries= 1 serving, 2 small kiwis= 1 serving, 2 small oranges= 1 serving, 1 apple= 1 serving… NO BANANAS)
- 1 serving nuts/seeds (15 almonds= 1 serving)
- 4 servings fats/oils (1/8 avocado, 1 tsp Earth Balance, 1 tsp olive oil= 1 serving)
- 2 medical food shakes (protein shakes) a day
Here's the site that shows you how many servings of what you can eat. I follow the 1300 calorie plan but you would follow the 1800 calorie plan so your servings will be higher than mine. http://bloomingnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Food-Modification-Worksheetv2.pdf
Medical food- 2 servings (you don't need to buy the medical food unless you want to… you could still just follow the basics of the plan)
Protein- 3 servings
Legumes- 2 servings
Dairy/dairy alternatives- 1 serving
Nuts/seeds- 1 serving
Category 1 veggies- minimum of 3-4 servings
Category 2 veggies- 1 serving
Fruits- 3 servings
Grains- 1 serving
Oils- 6 servings0 -
Virogrl, a couple of things:
1) How long have you been at this?
2) Can you open your diary for us?
3) You obviously cannot exercise due to your size and arthritic knee, at least not in the traditional sense. But that's ok! You don't have to exercise to lose weight--it's all about the calories. But increasing your activity even in very small ways will help burn some extra calories and start improving your cardiovascular health. Look up non-weight bearing exercises like sitting exercises, picking up and putting down a gallon of milk or water, moving your arms in arm circles, etc. Every little thing counts and will set you up for more exercise down the road.0 -
Denial. You aren't ready till you are ready. For some, weight loss surgery doesn't work. You many not be able to change yet.0
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That was not nice!!!0
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r u sure everything is being measured? what is your sodium intake? maybe go to a 1500 calories diet if your not able to be to mobile? I think its great you want to do this on your own without surgery. my ex-husband died at 42 years of age due to his weight- and his twin brother lost all the weight through weight watchers. Best of luck to you!0
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Denial. You aren't ready till you are ready. For some, weight loss surgery doesn't work. You many not be able to change yet.
:huh:
If OP wasn't ready, she wouldn't be here taking the initiative to lose weight through diet/exercise.
If she was in denial, she'd be taking the easy way out and following her doctor's suggestion of getting WLS.0
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