Dr has recommended the Ideal Protein diet...
shellypaints
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And I'm not liking what I'm seeing about it. The Dr has also prescribed a drug for me to take for glucose intolerance. I just restarted here after having surgery to repair my nose so I can breathe. And I'm not sure I need to be on such a restrictive and potentially dangerous diet. I really don't believe losing weight at a rate of 60 lbs in 6 months is healthy long term. I was expecting that I would be exercising, eating higher protein and fewer carbs to lose to the goal I set here with a goal weight of 130lbs and that it would take about 2 years to get there. I'm 48 yo, 5'2" and weigh 223, Dr says I should weigh 150, but I think that is too heavy I weighed 120 when I was 20 so 130-135 should be reasonable if what I've read is correct.
I'm not sure what to think or what plan I should be following.
I'm not sure what to think or what plan I should be following.
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What's the plan? It's hard to comment without knowing the details.0
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That's part of the problem I don't have but the barest framework of a plan. I don't want to do shakes and pouch food, which is what Ideal Protein is. While I would lose weight on it I don't think it would address bad food choices and the idea of no exercise just isn't logical when I am perfectly able to exercise now.
I think I need to focus on a whole food type of eating plan that's not a fad that demonizes some foods. I don't know if I need to hire a trainer, or join a gym, or go it alone.
My original plan was to do a plan that was along the lines of SouthBeach phase 2. But I'm not sure that's going to get the results that I need to start with. WW is also an option, but I really don't want to pay nor can I pay a whole lot extra to do this - it's just not in the budget right now.0 -
Why are you complicating things?
Just eat the foods you like to eat within a calorie deficit.0 -
Four people I've known have done that diet, it sounds so extreme to me. One of them, their hair thinned and started to fall out. Two of them were told not to exercise. 800 cals a day is so low.0
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Have you read the ingredients in the Ideal Protein products?? Gross stuff!!!! Just eat real food, following mfp or TDEE guidelines and you will lose weight.0
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Eat real food - everyone i know who has done IP has gained it back quickly after they go off it. Plus, the IP stuff is pricer than just eating real foods. Is there any reason for your Dr. to want you to drop the weight quickly?0
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I haven't heard any Doctors recommend the Pure Protein Diet but I know many that swear by the Dukan Diet variation. Maybe take a look at that. It's tough because it has you giving up a lot of your foods for a long time but the reviews that I have read by the ADA say that it's only drawback is how disciplined you have to be but that it will work. Weight loss should be 1-2 lbs a week..,0
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My mother did it, and had a doctor monitor her very closely. She seems to be successful. I can't afford it so I won't be trying it, and I can't eat dairy so I wouldn't be able to have most of the food.0
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Eat real food - everyone i know who has done IP has gained it back quickly after they go off it. Plus, the IP stuff is pricer than just eating real foods. Is there any reason for your Dr. to want you to drop the weight quickly?
I am officially pre-diabetic with possible glucose or is it insulin intolerance; I need to have some more testing done. So I know I need to reduce my carbs and increase proteins but I'm not sure what the guidelines for that is.
I prefer real food. :bigsmile:0 -
Don't be scared by the 60lbs in 6 months. I was able to lose 80 in 6 months and have kept it off. That being said I cant stand ideal protein. I believe in eating high protein low carb and fat, 50,30,20 or 40,40,20 as you are closer to your goal and exercising 5-6 times a week.0
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I just Googled the plan - it appears to me to be very much like Medifast (I know they have just gone to an MLM - this might be it). As this plan is not sustainable for life (IMO - plus my friends who have done Medifast say it doesn't taste good at all), I agree with a couple of other posters - why complicate life? Eat healthy, exercise, make sure you are at a calorie deficit and you'll lose weight - and enjoy life!
As far as your goal - get to 150 and then decide if you want to drop more. At 5'2" 150 seems a bit high..
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Why are you complicating things?
Just eat the foods you like to eat within a calorie deficit.
What? I'm sure it's just that simple for you. :huh:
But you aren't me and I am trying to follow my Dr's guidelines here if not the recommended diet.0 -
This sounds like a diet that you pay your dr to be on?
If so, you are advised not to exercise so that you lose muscle weight as well as fat - so as long as you're seeing the scale moving downwards you'll keep paying the money. They usually sell vitamins/supplements (that you can get cheaper elsewhere) to prevent hair loss etc.
I know from experience
this diet will work to help you lose weight. You might not keep it off long term and you could probably get better results (body composition wise) using this site with a lower deficit adding strength training to maintain LM and cardio for heart health and more food 
You can set this up to whatever macro balance suits you, so you can do high protein if you want. Good luck whatever you decide. Don't want to scare mongrel too much - a low cal diet like this shouldn't do you any harm, health wise, if you have a lot to lose and the doctor is monitoring everything properly.0 -
Why are you getting so defensive?? You came to a public forum to ask our opinion, and you don't like it? What she is saying makes sense and is the way to go : eat food, less of it. She is not insulting you or implying that is is '''that easy''''. Eat real food or eat the crappy Protein Ideal ''' food '', your choice, but dont attack those who take time to answer your question, geez!Why are you complicating things?
Just eat the foods you like to eat within a calorie deficit.
What? I'm sure it's just that simple for you. :huh:
But you aren't me and I am trying to follow my Dr's guidelines here if not the recommended diet.0 -
Why are you getting so defensive?? You came to a public forum to ask our opinion, and you don't like it? What she is saying makes sense and is the way to go : eat food, less of it. She is not insulting you or implying that is is '''that easy''''. Eat real food or eat the crappy Protein Ideal ''' food '', your choice, but dont attack those who take time to answer your question, geez!Why are you complicating things?
Just eat the foods you like to eat within a calorie deficit.
What? I'm sure it's just that simple for you. :huh:
But you aren't me and I am trying to follow my Dr's guidelines here if not the recommended diet.
I'm sorry but neither of what you said or what they said was all that helpful. I'm not trying to complicate anything, I'm trying to understand how to assess what my nutritional needs are based upon the Dr's recommendation without doing an expensive junk food diet. I was hoping that I could find that type of knowledge without the judgey pants answer of eat less fatty.
That is not the type of support anyone needs.0 -
Then maybe tell your doctor you aren't interested in Ideal Protein. Ask him how many calories and what macronutrients he recommends instead.0
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Why are you getting so defensive?? You came to a public forum to ask our opinion, and you don't like it? What she is saying makes sense and is the way to go : eat food, less of it. She is not insulting you or implying that is is '''that easy''''. Eat real food or eat the crappy Protein Ideal ''' food '', your choice, but dont attack those who take time to answer your question, geez!Why are you complicating things?
Just eat the foods you like to eat within a calorie deficit.
What? I'm sure it's just that simple for you. :huh:
But you aren't me and I am trying to follow my Dr's guidelines here if not the recommended diet.
I'm sorry but neither of what you said or what they said was all that helpful. I'm not trying to complicate anything, I'm trying to understand how to assess what my nutritional needs are based upon the Dr's recommendation without doing an expensive junk food diet. I was hoping that I could find that type of knowledge without the judgey pants answer of eat less fatty.
That is not the type of support anyone needs.
Good grief.
Eating at a calorie deficit, preferably with foods you like to eat so that you'll stick with it is no where near being 'judgeypants'.
Your OP didn't sound like you were at all thrilled with the plan your doctor laid out for you or the weight he/she wanted you to shoot for.
So, I wanted to stress that you didn't have to complicate things by trying to follow a 'diet' laid out by anyone.
I won't waste any more of my time and best wishes to you.0 -
Eat real food - everyone i know who has done IP has gained it back quickly after they go off it. Plus, the IP stuff is pricer than just eating real foods. Is there any reason for your Dr. to want you to drop the weight quickly?
I am officially pre-diabetic with possible glucose or is it insulin intolerance; I need to have some more testing done. So I know I need to reduce my carbs and increase proteins but I'm not sure what the guidelines for that is.
I prefer real food. :bigsmile:
My boss also did IP because she was pre-diabetic and concerned about insulin intolerance. Like I said before, she has gained a bit of it back since going off IP (and I don't think it is a sustainable diet for life).
I think the key is dropping the weight and keeping it off - in which method do you think you will be most successful?0 -
Does your Doctor expect you to buy the products from them?0
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I certainly can't speak for your doctor, but I suspect she's recommending ideal protein because it's a structured, aggressive low carb diet. It's pretty common (although arguably short-sighted) for doctors to recommend very aggressive diets because they understand the health consequences of obesity, and generally speaking the sooner you drop the weight and move away from obesity, the better in terms of health. That said, you can set fairly aggressive goals without having to follow an 800 calorie a day pre-packaged meal plan like IP.
As for going low carb, that makes a lot of sense if they're telling you you're insulin resistant. You might want to look into forms of low carb diets - potentially a ketogenic diet, if you think you can stick with it knowing that it's more restrictive. Even 1200 calories on a ketogenic diet would be more than IP gives you and would allow you to eat real foods (albeit with some restrictions). I would not listen to the general "eat what you like, IIFYM!" advice given that your doctor is telling you your body struggles with a high carb intake, and that's likely to just lead you down a road to frustration.0 -
Why did your doctor want you to lose weight so quickly? Is there a health threat involved like high blood pressure, or high diabetes numbers? Usually if they want you to lose that fast it's because you are at risk for a stroke or heart attack and they need to lower your weight quickly to get you out of that danger zone.0
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I think I might know him!
Is your Doctors name by chance....... dr Oz??:huh:0 -
That is a diet plan that they offer here at the hospital I work for. I know 5-6 people that went on it when the department first started, they were employee's that received extreme discounts for doing it and to be able to show how it worked.
They all lost alot of weight, however, only 2 of them have kept it off once they returned to eating real food. The other's have gained it back and then some. One has since had Gatric Bypass Surgery.
BTW, have you tasted Ideal Protein? It's absolutely horrible, there is no way that I would have been able to choke the drinks down. Yes they are that bad!! And give you horrible horrible breathe. lol
One of my good friends went on Ideal Protein and I went on a low carb diet at the same time. I actually lost more weight than she did and I was eating real food. It is a low carb, low calorie diet so of course it's going to work but who's going to continue eating that way!! And it's not cheap either.
FYI this is just my opinion and what I have observed, so to those that have done Ideal Protein and it worked you deserve many KUDOS!!!! I couldn't have done it.0 -
I went on the IP diet because others I knew had great success. It is hard and very strict but it works and I felt absolutely amazing on it! I had energy and was healthy. Didn't get the normal winter cold or sinus infection. I liked that it was so strict because I needed someone telling me exactly what to eat and how much. I am 56 and was taking BP medicine twice a day and my Dr. wanted to put me on cholesterol medicine. My BP is now normal and my lipid panel is all well within the normal range. After I reached my goal I started working out more and being more conscious of what I eat. I still allow myself 'fun' days but get back at it and am keeping the weight off. I went from a size 16 to a size 9. I started early Nov and reached my goal in April.
And I agree that some of the food is bad. But I found three shakes I loved and stuck to those three things.0 -
... I would not listen to the general "eat what you like, IIFYM!" advice given that your doctor is telling you your body struggles with a high carb intake, and that's likely to just lead you down a road to frustration.
Eat what you like within the guidelines of a carb restricted diet, not IIFYM. No need for protein shakes and the like or diet books.
You prefer real food and so do I. What foods do you like to eat that fall within the guidelines? Chicken, fish, eggs, lean meats?
Work each meal around a protein food, some fat and then add carbs like veggies and berries.
You're more likely to stick with the program eating foods you like.0 -
Eat real food - everyone i know who has done IP has gained it back quickly after they go off it. Plus, the IP stuff is pricer than just eating real foods. Is there any reason for your Dr. to want you to drop the weight quickly?
I am officially pre-diabetic with possible glucose or is it insulin intolerance; I need to have some more testing done. So I know I need to reduce my carbs and increase proteins but I'm not sure what the guidelines for that is.
I prefer real food. :bigsmile:
Personally, I would suggest other options... maybe talk with a nutritionist. Does your medical plan cover nutritionists? I was pre-diabetic, progressed to full on type 2diabetes and reversed my diagnosis by simply cutting out refined sugar, lowering carbs, reducing calorie intake and in general reading nutritional labels on products. With the help of MFP to track my daily food consumption, my doctor touts me as an example to her other patients how it can be done. I have been in maintenance mode for over a year now... weight loss can be achieved with determination.
Great hopes in your success... regardless of the route you take to get there!0 -
... I would not listen to the general "eat what you like, IIFYM!" advice given that your doctor is telling you your body struggles with a high carb intake, and that's likely to just lead you down a road to frustration.
Eat what you like within the guidelines of a carb restricted diet, not IIFYM. No need for protein shakes and the like or diet books.
You prefer real food and so do I. What foods do you like to eat that fall within the guidelines? Chicken, fish, eggs, lean meats?
Work each meal around a protein food, some fat and then add carbs like veggies and berries.
You're more likely to stick with the program eating foods you like.
I think we're saying the same thing, just in slightly different ways.0 -
"You should diet on as many calories as possible." - Layne Norton - PhD
Go on YouTube and watch Layne's video titled Metabolic Damage Part 2 and the go find a licensed Dietician (not nutritionist, there's a difference).0 -
Eat real food - everyone i know who has done IP has gained it back quickly after they go off it. Plus, the IP stuff is pricer than just eating real foods. Is there any reason for your Dr. to want you to drop the weight quickly?
I am officially pre-diabetic with possible glucose or is it insulin intolerance; I need to have some more testing done. So I know I need to reduce my carbs and increase proteins but I'm not sure what the guidelines for that is.
I prefer real food. :bigsmile:
Everybody is going to be different so the guidelines will vary. I was diagnosed T2 diabetic in January with an A1C of 7.2 (generally, between 6 and 7 is prediabetic so I was just over the line) and a weight of 311 lb (5'7"). My doctor told me to eat no more than 180 gr. of carbs and aim for a loss of 1 lb a week. My last appointment with her, I had an A1C of 5.6 and I have lost 48 lb. I have done this by eating real foods that fit in with my macros and taking a very low dose of a diabetes med which I expect to be off by the end of summer.
If you are not happy with your doctor's recommendations and there is not a medical reason for losing so fast, I would get a second opinion from another doctor.0 -
It sounds like your doctor is a quack if they suggest anything other than moderation and exercise.0
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