Diet Soda's and Metabolic rate

Sabine_Stroehm · July 2014

My jaw has hit the ground and stayed there as I read more and more post about people drinking a 12 pack a day. Even more than two or three a day?

How do you people still have teeth or make it through a day without passing a kidney stone? Just ....whatthehell? That's like over 500 mg of caffeine a day. Mind blown.

And no gout?

Aaron_K123 · July 2014

My jaw has hit the ground and stayed there as I read more and more post about people drinking a 12 pack a day. Even more than two or three a day?

How do you people still have teeth or make it through a day without passing a kidney stone? Just ....whatthehell? That's like over 500 mg of caffeine a day. Mind blown.

12 cans of soda has about as much caffeine as about 4 cups of coffee or 2 double-shot expresso drinks. Plenty of people drink that much coffee. I myself usually have two double-shot tall americano's from Starbucks during my day which is the equivalent of 12 cans of soda.

SnuggleSmacks · July 2014

I drink tons of diet soda, but often it's caffeine free such as ginger ale or Fresca. But even when I go through half a case of diet Mt. Dew in a day, I don't feel any differently or have trouble sleeping.

mommy22alyns · July 2014

My personal experience is that I can drink diet soda with no effect on my appetite or weight loss. Frankly, I don't care to give it up.

SLLRunner · July 2014

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I'm entitled to my opinion and beliefs and you're entitled to yours,

My 2 cents

You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Thumbs up for GOOD old fashioned truth.

SLLRunner · July 2014

That's like over 500 mg of caffeine a day. Mind blown.

If I had that much caffeine I'd denouncing off the walls and bloated as a balloon. I like Zevia, though, which is sweetened with the Stevia plant. Cream soda and ginger beer are caffeine free.

paperpudding · July 2014

My understanding is that only cola type soft drinks (diet and regular) - ie Coke, Pepsi etc, contain any caffeine.

A quick look at 2 bottles of soda in my pantry confirms this - caffeine is listed in the ingredients of Pepsi Max but not in the diet lemon one.

paperpudding · July 2014

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Many , way too many times in the past, I drank a 12 pack of canned diet colas in a day. I always thought it helped..but def not good for you otherwise. Diet Rite Cola... ... has NO sodium..so won't cause water gain.

but all sodas, diet or regular, don't contain more sodium than most foods.

Examples
Pepsi max - 14 mg per 100ml
Unsweetened blackcurrant juice - 10 mg per 100 ml
Low fat milk - 47 mg per 100 ml
Thousand island dressing - 950 mg per 100 ml
Honey - 15 mg per 100 ml

Now I realize these amounts will differ between brands but that is just random selection - the brands that happened to be in my house tonight.
But you can see sodium in diet soda is not huge, compared to other common liquids - for ease of comparison I used all liquids as all are per 100 ml.

If you don't want to drink soda - don't. But the sodium content is really not an issue.

I will add one more to your list.

Tap water - 9mg per 100ml

Yeah, soda has about as much sodium in it as tap water. This is probably because they use tap water.

yes good point.

Unfortunately I couldn't include tap water in my quick comparison because, unlike the other liquids in my house, my tap does not come with an ingredients list.

Cinnamonhuskies · July 2014

Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

stevencloser · July 2014

Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

BarbieFromHellx · July 2014

It's not good for you by all means, but it has never affected my weight loss because it has no calories in it.

Sabine_Stroehm · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

randomworldgirl · July 2014

I am a big diet cola fan. I never drink soda, but when I do it's a coke zero. I only recently started getting on this kick of craving it (Because it's free at work). I was wondering if drinking too much diet soda's (well artificial sweeteners in general) will hinder my weight loss? I heard many mixed things about it, and I have well over 5 packets of equal a day for my 2-3 coffee's and 1-2 coke zeros.

OP: I'm only going to answer the question you asked: Will drinking too much diet soda hinder your weight loss? I don't know. I can only tell you that it hasn't hindered mine. I drink 2-3 cans of Diet Pepsi per day.

bcovely · July 2014

Just wanted to let you know, I use to drink a lot of Diet Mountain Dew. My boss told me to be careful - that particular brand of diet soda is known for giving kidney stones (I work in a hospital environment). Since then, I cut down. Don't know if it's true, but thought I would pass on the information.

earlnabby · July 2014

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I am a big diet cola fan. I never drink soda, but when I do it's a coke zero. I only recently started getting on this kick of craving it (Because it's free at work). I was wondering if drinking too much diet soda's (well artificial sweeteners in general) will hinder my weight loss? I heard many mixed things about it, and I have well over 5 packets of equal a day for my 2-3 coffee's and 1-2 coke zeros.

Aspartame should be illegal. Aspartame is turned into a compound that is used to help preserve bodies for the funneral. And when you drink aspartame your body converts aspartame into the compound. You're drinking poison when it comes to aspartame. I stopped getting these awful migraines when I stopped drinking anything with aspartame in it.

your call but personally for me, I wouldn't be caught dead drinking the stuff

Formaldehyde? Really? Do you even know how thoroughly that myth has been debunked already, for years now?

Not to mention that you absorb more formaldehyde from your environment than is possible from drinking aspartame beverages. Do you use shampoo, conditioner, lotion, deodorant, etc? You are probably absorbing formaldehyde from the preservatives (Diazolidinyl urea, DMDM Hydantoin, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, and Methylisothiazolinone are all formaldehyde releasing). Do you buy new clothes and bedding and don't wash them before using? You are absorbing formaldehyde which is used as a temporary soil release and anti-wrinkle fabric treatment. Have you ever had a Brazilian blowout? You inhaled a lot of formaldehyde.

VeryKatie · July 2014

diet soda's are good at being calorie free but it's like drinking poison, years ago i used to drink diet coke everyday and it was so addicting i could drink a 12 pack in one day, i stopped drinking it and had awful migraines. so now i drink perrier, it has the fizz without the other crap.

That's probably the caffeine withdrawal.

cingle87 · July 2014

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I am a big diet cola fan. I never drink soda, but when I do it's a coke zero. I only recently started getting on this kick of craving it (Because it's free at work). I was wondering if drinking too much diet soda's (well artificial sweeteners in general) will hinder my weight loss? I heard many mixed things about it, and I have well over 5 packets of equal a day for my 2-3 coffee's and 1-2 coke zeros.

I'm going to tell you the truth.

Everyone is different. Everyone responds differently to different chemicals. There may be absolutely no impact on you drinking a dozen cans of Coke Zero while for someone else there may be a big impact. The important thing to do is test it out and determine for yourself whether or not Coke Zero is having an impact on you. Not necessarily your metabolic rate, but the whole you.

I, personally, cannot have aspartame or sucralose or AceK as there is a chemical reaction in my body that gives me headaches. The severity of the headache is an indication of how much of the artificial sweetener I have consumed. Other people can drink it with no side effects. For every (what did that one commenter call it?) "peer reviewed" article saying that there is no impact I can find a corresponding article that says artificial sweeteners do have an impact. It depends on what you are trying to measure and the people in the experiment.

If you have a concern do a controlled experiment, try it yourself and make the right decision for you.

Basic biochemistry is the same for all humans within a narrow range unless they have a medical issue which causes a different biochemical reaction. Our bodies do not work differently except for outliers with abnormalities.

Marry me.

I already have the most amazing and awesome boyfriend in the world, and plan to marry the everliving f*** out of him when the time is right.We'll be serving diet soda at our wedding reception. But I'm sure you're nice too!

"and plan to marry the everliving f*** out of him when the time is right" this part had me in stiches

stevencloser · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

earlnabby · July 2014

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

This is what gets me about the whole MSG thing. People think it is a lab-made chemical and really bad for you. The reality is that it is a salt of an abundant amino acid that occurs naturally and is extracted through fermentation from seaweed or, more commonly, from sugar beets.

Sabine_Stroehm · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

Again, does this mean they all belong in our bodies? That they are ALL some how inert?

techgal128 · July 2014

Soda is general is very bad for your teeth. Be careful with how much you drink. I was an avid soda drinker and when I saw my dentist, I wore off so much of my enamel that my teeth literally sounded "crunchy" when she scraped them. She said that I'm actually wearing holes in my teeth because of it. Scary stuff. If you do choose to drink it, it might be good to wash it down with some water or something so it doesn't sit on your teeth.

In terms of weight loss though, I don't think it hurts. Sometimes people think that getting a diet drink means they can eat more calories on something else which can be detrimental. Don't have this mindset and you'll be fine.

Aaron_K123 · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

Again, does this mean they all belong in our bodies? That they are ALL some how inert?

No of course not, it just means that something being a "chemical" is not a means of judging whether or not its good for you, neutral or bad for you. It is non-informative information that many people seem to think means something. Everything we ingest is a chemical, some are good and some are bad and saying that it is "a chemical" tells you absolutely nothing about its effects. No one here is saying that it is a chemical therefore it is good for you, people are saying that stating it is a chemical doesn't mean anything. Our bodies are chemical engines, everything we eat is chemical and our metabolic processes that provide us with energy are all chemically driven.

Saying "its a chemical" tells you nothing.

Its like asking someone to guess a number between 1 and infinity and when they ask you for a hint you say "Sure, the number I am thinking of is positive". All numbers between 1 and infinity are positive so it does nothing to narrow it down.

"What foods should I eat? Well avoid ones with chemicals" is about as helpful.

Sabine_Stroehm · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

Again, does this mean they all belong in our bodies? That they are ALL some how inert?

No of course not, it just means that something being a "chemical" is not a means of judging whether or not its good for you, neutral or bad for you. It is non-informative information that many people seem to think means something. Everything we ingest is a chemical, some are good and some are bad and saying that it is "a chemical" tells you absolutely nothing about its effects. No one here is saying that it is a chemical therefore it is good for you, people are saying that stating it is a chemical doesn't mean anything. Our bodies are chemical engines, everything we eat is chemical and our metabolic processes that provide us with energy are all chemically driven.

Saying "its a chemical" tells you nothing.

Its like asking someone to guess a number between 1 and infinity and when they ask you for a hint you say "Sure, the number I am thinking of is positive". All numbers between 1 and infinity are positive so it does nothing to narrow it down.

"What foods should I eat? Well avoid ones with chemicals" is about as helpful.

I don't disagree then. I do disagree when folks say: eat x, because well, a lemon is chemicals too

Aaron_K123 · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

Again, does this mean they all belong in our bodies? That they are ALL some how inert?

No of course not, it just means that something being a "chemical" is not a means of judging whether or not its good for you, neutral or bad for you. It is non-informative information that many people seem to think means something. Everything we ingest is a chemical, some are good and some are bad and saying that it is "a chemical" tells you absolutely nothing about its effects. No one here is saying that it is a chemical therefore it is good for you, people are saying that stating it is a chemical doesn't mean anything. Our bodies are chemical engines, everything we eat is chemical and our metabolic processes that provide us with energy are all chemically driven.

Saying "its a chemical" tells you nothing.

Its like asking someone to guess a number between 1 and infinity and when they ask you for a hint you say "Sure, the number I am thinking of is positive". All numbers between 1 and infinity are positive so it does nothing to narrow it down.

"What foods should I eat? Well avoid ones with chemicals" is about as helpful.

I don't disagree then. I do disagree when folks say: eat x, because well, a lemon is chemicals too

I'm not sure I've ever say anyone say that though. The only time I've seen it said is as a retort in the context of someone saying "don't eat X, it is a chemical"

Sabine_Stroehm · July 2014

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Zevia is more expensive but supposed to be a better alternative diet soda.

I understand the diet=chemicals stuff, believe me I do, but I am desperate to lose weight, and I am all about the numbers, so diet pop helps me keep my calorie numbers down.

You should start understanding the every single thing in existence = chemicals stuff too.

And this means they all belong in our bodies?

Chemical alarmism is probably one of the stupidest things to happen in nutrition. "Oh no that flavour was made artificially, it's going to kill my whole family!" Or my personal favorite "Oh no there's something in the ingredients I can't pronounce! I won't eat it because I can't be assed to look what it even is!" Ascorbic acid? No thank you! Chemicals like that are not welcome in my body. Now excuse me as I eat some fruit.

People don't bother to look into things and refuse things just because they sound chemical or because the cousin of their wife's sister's hairdresser told them they read something somewhere and that's how threads like this happened and why not even the pinned aspartame thread at the very top of the page won't stop them from happening.

Again, does this mean they all belong in our bodies? That they are ALL some how inert?

No of course not, it just means that something being a "chemical" is not a means of judging whether or not its good for you, neutral or bad for you. It is non-informative information that many people seem to think means something. Everything we ingest is a chemical, some are good and some are bad and saying that it is "a chemical" tells you absolutely nothing about its effects. No one here is saying that it is a chemical therefore it is good for you, people are saying that stating it is a chemical doesn't mean anything. Our bodies are chemical engines, everything we eat is chemical and our metabolic processes that provide us with energy are all chemically driven.

Saying "its a chemical" tells you nothing.

Its like asking someone to guess a number between 1 and infinity and when they ask you for a hint you say "Sure, the number I am thinking of is positive". All numbers between 1 and infinity are positive so it does nothing to narrow it down.

"What foods should I eat? Well avoid ones with chemicals" is about as helpful.

I don't disagree then. I do disagree when folks say: eat x, because well, a lemon is chemicals too

I'm not sure I've ever say anyone say that though. The only time I've seen it said is as a retort in the context of someone saying "don't eat X, it is a chemical"

And even as a retort, it's still silly.

shraniken · July 2014

All I drink is diet cola, and I lose just fine. I'm drinking a bit more flavored carbonated water now, Clear American.

northbanu · July 2014

Edited because I decided the original post contributed nothing positive to the discussion.
Sorry. Nothing here to see.

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