Why do people criticise clean eaters/healthy lifestyles.
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Hmmm, yeah I think a lot of people feel threatened by someone actually having healthy eating habits and so they say that they eat what they want and drink and smoke and never see a doctor and that i will die healthy while they are having all the fun. I normally say that it is the same as their driving without a seat belt and saying they have not died in an accident.
I dont buy any food with ingredients of which I dont know - no Es no artificial stuff no enhancers no flavourants, so ready made stuff, no mayo and no ketchup ( I make my own of tom paste, made own mayo before but alas too fattening lol)
Everything cooked from scratch - fruit veg and whole grains, if I buy meat - i buy cuts and make my own mince, no sweets, chips or anything in a 'packet'. I bake own bread too, when I can make preserves, etc.
I live in my comfort zone, I do things that make me happy, and I wont have some smoker telling me that I am a health freak, just because I eat and cook like my great grandma did.
ETA And NO the food lectures do not come from ME but from those who hate see someone order salad while they have a burger. I had someone of less perfect lifestyle brag how she tricked her vegetarian friend into eating meat. Apparently her friends wanting to live cruelty free did not let her sleep at night, cos SHE did not feel sorry for poor little lambs.
Yes you do get these aggressive junk eaters/smokers/drinkers who will treat you like $£$"&^ cos you dont want to eat takeaways. I respect their choices but they feel free to ridicule mine?
*psst* Cos is not a word. It's technically "because"... 'cause for short.0 -
I don't. My friends at lunch all eat sandwiches crisps etc and were curious as to why I suddenly changed so much.
Why are you so quick to judge that I must be flaunting my awesome lifestyle? I don't exactly sit and go 'look kale I'm so clean and healthy'
No different is saying I eat 90% clean or whole foods to saying that you eat low carb, paleo, vegan etc.OP, why does anyone even know how you eat? I eat food around people and they never ask, "what kind of diet do you follow?" Do you know why they don't ask? Because they don't give a crap. The only way people would know if I had certain dietary protocol is if I TOLD them. Stop telling people how "awesome" your personal dietary choices are and they'll stop commenting.
This thread is an excellent example of your perceived persecution. No one knew you were a "clean" eater until you started a thread about it and proclaimed it to the forums.
Additionally, this is one of the few diets where you can say, "I eat clean xx% of the time."
You can't say that if you're vegan, vegetarian, IIFYM, paleo, primal, gluten free, breathtarian, nutrarian and all the other diverse 'arians'. Because once you give a percentage, you're not really a vegan or vegetarian or (insert any other here) dieter anymore.
You eat clean 90% of the time? Okay, so you eat food 100% of the time. Big deal. You're not superior for your wishy washy dietary whims.
Why do people assign so much ego to the types of foods they eat?
Friends: Why aren't you eating the same things we are anymore?
You: I felt like eating this.
Friends: Okay.
I have a feeling you didn't handle that conversation in the above manner but instead took the opportunity to wax poetic about the virtues of your new way of life.
Why are you so incredibly judgemental? I explained to my friends I am eating this way to help various illnesses. However when we go to the cinema or sleepovers they do not grasp that I do not want to eat that way, so it becomes a topic because I unfortunately stick out. They never say okay. You know nothing of the situation to be fair so stop assuming.0 -
Because they are jealous and wish they had the dectiction to stick with it. And are ignorant! There is a quote "Obsessed is the word lazy people use to describe the dedicated!"-anonymous
Another fine example...
But not a fine example of the English language. *SMH*0 -
I make time for what is important to me. But maybe my set of values is different from yours...I eat healthy most of the time...allow myself treats occasionally? Make my own bread? I've tried...I'm not good at it. But I do make soups and roast our veggies and cook our dinners...You are a walking example of why people criticize and are upset with people who choose this way of eating...because of the way you act...judgmental and "holier than thou".
That's the wholepoint? Do you feel you have less perfect lifestyle when someone says they make own bread??
Obviously one does not NEED to do all this to make healthy choices in life.
But the people feel they are ENTITLED to actually jump on someone and say they are conescending, arrogant, etc because you dont order a pizza instead.
My point I do it MY way, you do it YOURS, everyone happy.
As soon as you say you do something they dont care about you are a freak.0 -
Thank you. Good response!!0
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Hmmm, yeah I think a lot of people feel threatened by someone actually having healthy eating habits and so they say that they eat what they want and drink and smoke and never see a doctor and that i will die healthy while they are having all the fun. I normally say that it is the same as their driving without a seat belt and saying they have not died in an accident.
I dont buy any food with ingredients of which I dont know - no Es no artificial stuff no enhancers no flavourants, so ready made stuff, no mayo and no ketchup ( I make my own of tom paste, made own mayo before but alas too fattening lol)
Everything cooked from scratch - fruit veg and whole grains, if I buy meat - i buy cuts and make my own mince, no sweets, chips or anything in a 'packet'. I bake own bread too, when I can make preserves, etc.
I live in my comfort zone, I do things that make me happy, and I wont have some smoker telling me that I am a health freak, just because I eat and cook like my great grandma did.
ETA And NO the food lectures do not come from ME but from those who hate see someone order salad while they have a burger. I had someone of less perfect lifestyle brag how she tricked her vegetarian friend into eating meat. Apparently her friends wanting to live cruelty free did not let her sleep at night, cos SHE did not feel sorry for poor little lambs.
Yes you do get these aggressive junk eaters/smokers/drinkers who will treat you like $£$"&^ cos you dont want to eat takeaways. I respect their choices but they feel free to ridicule mine?
Well what is important for me is to lift heavy things in front of crowds. That;s HEALTHY for me. And for clean eaters to tell me I am going to keel over and be holier than thou?
And that I'm somehow threatened because of someone's eating habits? Uh, no. Now if you tell me you are Master of Sport in snatching and clean&jerking in kb lifts, or you deadlift over 300 lbs at a bodyweight of 120..Yeah, I am not threatened, I am Jealous. But nope..not threatened at all by you baking and cooking from scratch. cool for you..but those of us who don't , we are still in GREAT SHAPE and are strong to boot!
For some people, healthy is "clean eating" for some of us..it' s lifting. For some it's both or whatever suits our fancy.
I eat dirty as all get out but I am still healthy and stronger than many my age. I get up in front of crowds and LIFT in competitions. That is also healthy.
I could criticize people all day about it. I really could. When I have clean eaters preach to me..please also add your squat and deadlift numbers to that as well as letting me know how your last competition time on the kettlebell platform was.
What-What..you aren't going to compete for me? Keep cutting up your vegetables and eating organic, and I will keep going on the platform and lifting in front of people . Excuse me while I go eat some full of preservative bacon. YUM!0 -
I make time for what is important to me. But maybe my set of values is different from yours...I eat healthy most of the time...allow myself treats occasionally? Make my own bread? I've tried...I'm not good at it. But I do make soups and roast our veggies and cook our dinners...You are a walking example of why people criticize and are upset with people who choose this way of eating...because of the way you act...judgmental and "holier than thou".
That's the wholepoint? Do you feel you have less perfect lifestyle when someone says they make own bread??
Obviously one does not NEED to do all this to make healthy choices in life.
But the people feel they are ENTITLED to actually jump on someone and say they are conescending, arrogant, etc because you dont order a pizza instead.
My point I do it MY way, you do it YOURS, everyone happy.
As soon as you say you do something they dont care about you are a freak.
That is not the point-which you have, in fact, missed entirely. The point is not that you do those things-good for you that you have the time and will to do that.
But you rub it in people's faces when you say things like "they don't care enough to make the time". Or that we feel threatened because you have a "healthy" lifestyle and we apparently don't by your standards.
Because someone chooses not to go as far at the end of the spectrum as they can-does that mean that they do not eat healthy? Or just not healthy according to you.
Again..."judgey Judgerson".0 -
I don't. My friends at lunch all eat sandwiches crisps etc and were curious as to why I suddenly changed so much.
Why are you so quick to judge that I must be flaunting my awesome lifestyle? I don't exactly sit and go 'look kale I'm so clean and healthy'
No different is saying I eat 90% clean or whole foods to saying that you eat low carb, paleo, vegan etc.OP, why does anyone even know how you eat? I eat food around people and they never ask, "what kind of diet do you follow?" Do you know why they don't ask? Because they don't give a crap. The only way people would know if I had certain dietary protocol is if I TOLD them. Stop telling people how "awesome" your personal dietary choices are and they'll stop commenting.
This thread is an excellent example of your perceived persecution. No one knew you were a "clean" eater until you started a thread about it and proclaimed it to the forums.
Additionally, this is one of the few diets where you can say, "I eat clean xx% of the time."
You can't say that if you're vegan, vegetarian, IIFYM, paleo, primal, gluten free, breathtarian, nutrarian and all the other diverse 'arians'. Because once you give a percentage, you're not really a vegan or vegetarian or (insert any other here) dieter anymore.
You eat clean 90% of the time? Okay, so you eat food 100% of the time. Big deal. You're not superior for your wishy washy dietary whims.
Why do people assign so much ego to the types of foods they eat?
Friends: Why aren't you eating the same things we are anymore?
You: I felt like eating this.
Friends: Okay.
I have a feeling you didn't handle that conversation in the above manner but instead took the opportunity to wax poetic about the virtues of your new way of life.
This.
You say you've told them countless times-- why? Just say "this is how I want to eat" and leave it at that.0 -
apriltrainer
I dont tell you to go and laze on the couch instead of lifting? I mean dude EVERYONE is lazing about and perfectly fit and healthy. What, you think you better than everyone cos you are lifting?
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So why is it ok to say the same thing about food?
I hope you do get the joke.0 -
Because they are jealous and wish they had the dectiction to stick with it. And are ignorant! There is a quote "Obsessed is the word lazy people use to describe the dedicated!"-anonymous
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Wonders why people criticize. Says the above.0 -
Because they are jealous and wish they had the dectiction to stick with it. And are ignorant! There is a quote "Obsessed is the word lazy people use to describe the dedicated!"-anonymous
Yep.0 -
My gosh...I'd kill to have that much time on my hands.
No time is grown up equivalent of dog ate my homework.
You MAKE time for what is important.
That's exactly how my mom cooked - working two shifts as a surgeon with 2 kids and unhelpful brat of a husband ( glad she ditched him!). Yep. No excuses for me, I had a good example.
*cough* Judgey...*cough*. My mom made stuff from scratch too...*may she rest in peace*...100% of everything? No...sometimes it's worthwhile to spend time on other things...you know...things other than being obsessive over how I eat...then proceeding to rub it in everyone's faces.0 -
That is not the point-which you have, in fact, missed entirely. The point is not that you do those things-good for you that you have the time and will to do that.
But you rub it in people's faces when you say things like "they don't care enough to make the time". Or that we feel threatened because you have a "healthy" lifestyle and we apparently don't by your standards.
Because someone chooses not to go as far at the end of the spectrum as they can-does that mean that they do not eat healthy? Or just not healthy according to you.
Again..."judgey Judgerson".
You dont need to say a word, you pass as 'holier-than thou'. Just order a salad instead of a burger.) 0 -
Because they are jealous and wish they had the dectiction to stick with it. And are ignorant! There is a quote "Obsessed is the word lazy people use to describe the dedicated!"-anonymous
Yep.
Of course people who can't spell stick together.0 -
apriltrainer
I dont tell you to go and laze on the couch instead of lifting? I mean dude EVERYONE is lazing about and perfectly fit and healthy. What, you think you better than everyone cos you are lifting?)
So why is it ok to say the same thing about food?
I hope you do get the joke.
Actually yes. I am better than the clean eaters who look down their noses at my bacon eating doughnut self. If you can't outlift me in a compeittion. Heck, even if you can..I love eating my nonclean food and will continue to do so. But the clean eater should be better than me in my competition lifts before they preach.0 -
Because they are jealous and wish they had the dectiction to stick with it. And are ignorant! There is a quote "Obsessed is the word lazy people use to describe the dedicated!"-anonymous
Yep.
Y'all are cute. So many assumptions.0 -
I find that it is better never to bring up my eating, diet....or anything around others. I talk about other things....then if they ask me, I tell them why I do it. It was especially difficult when I was vegan for a couple years.....lots of jokes when people found that I didn't eat meat or dairy....really got sick of it.0
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That is not the point-which you have, in fact, missed entirely. The point is not that you do those things-good for you that you have the time and will to do that.
But you rub it in people's faces when you say things like "they don't care enough to make the time". Or that we feel threatened because you have a "healthy" lifestyle and we apparently don't by your standards.
Because someone chooses not to go as far at the end of the spectrum as they can-does that mean that they do not eat healthy? Or just not healthy according to you.
Again..."judgey Judgerson".
You dont need to say a word, you pass as 'holier-than tough'. Just order a salad instead of a burger.)
Have done it, believe it or not...in fact I was excited about a new recipe for salad that I made last week. A friend said "Your food is what my food eats for dinner"...did I say that his way of eating isn't as healthy as mine? No. I laughed it off and said that it was hitting the spot because it was so hot outside and veggies sounded good.
*sigh*...but you'll fight tooth and nail until the end so...have at it and enjoy sitting on that high horse. Just don't stay up there too long..you know...don't wanna get saddle sore.0 -
Actually yes. I am better than the clean eaters who look down their noses at my bacon eating doughnut self. If you can't outlift me in a compeittion..Please STFU. Heck, even if you can..I love eating my nonclean food and will continue to do so. But the clean eater better be better than me in my competition lifts before they preach.
Sorry dude, if you with your heavy lifting cant outrun me in a long distance race... all your lifting is just meh together with bacon... LOL0 -
I have to go against the grain...
^^yes. And also the part about pretending not to notice the difference. Sometimes nowadays I have to stop myself from making the yuck face when I see a cake at the office. People need to celebrate, and we haven't figured out how to do it in a healthier way like a 5 minute disco party.0 -
I have seen over the years clean eaters get fat. How many people who claim clean eating status also drink alcohol. Since we are all making assumptions, why do the clean eaters either have no avi, an avi with a picture of someone else and/or closed diaries? What are you hiding? Are you not proud to show off what 'clean eating' has done for your appearance.0
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Actually yes. I am better than the clean eaters who look down their noses at my bacon eating doughnut self. If you can't outlift me in a compeittion..Please STFU. Heck, even if you can..I love eating my nonclean food and will continue to do so. But the clean eater better be better than me in my competition lifts before they preach.
Sorry dude, if you with your heavy lifting cant outrun me in a long distance race... all your lifting is just meh together with bacon... LOL
Whoa whoa, now...two different kinds of fitness here. Cardio vs. strength...you wanna get that started, open a new thread. Not all people are distance runners. I can run. Not my favorite activity (at least not until fall when it's not so humid)...I do pole. I can do things that neither of you could attempt as far as that goes...but I respect both of you in your own right with regards to fitness...you wanna argue about if you're more fit than someone else? Girl...cruisin' for a bruisin'...0 -
This whole thread makes me want to eat raw bacon and burn a stack of tires. Who's with me?0
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Have done it, believe it or not...in fact I was excited about a new recipe for salad that I made last week. A friend said "Your food is what my food eats for dinner"...did I say that his way of eating isn't as healthy as mine? No. I laughed it off and said that it was hitting the spot because it was so hot outside and veggies sounded good.
*sigh*...but you'll fight tooth and nail until the end so...have at it and enjoy sitting on that high horse. Just don't stay up there too long..you know...don't wanna get saddle sore.
The problem is that people feel entitled to comment on your food, especially when you are going out - and especially if it is a bunch of friends who choose to target your eating choices as lunch time conversation every single time. I dont comment on theirs? I guess would be much worse if i was a vegetarian, THEN I would get it.0 -
This whole thread makes me want to eat raw bacon and burn a stack of tires. Who's with me?
I'm in...but...only if we can toast marshmallows over the flames.0 -
I have seen over the years clean eaters get fat. How many people who claim clean eating status also drink alcohol. Since we are all making assumptions, why do the clean eaters either have no avi, an avi with a picture of someone else and/or closed diaries? What are you hiding? Are you not proud to show off what 'clean eating' has done for your appearance.
YUP!! SHOW YOUR AVIS!!!!!0 -
This whole thread makes me want to eat raw bacon and burn a stack of tires. Who's with me?
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Whoa whoa, now...two different kinds of fitness here. Cardio vs. strength...you wanna get that started, open a new thread. Not all people are distance runners. I can run. Not my favorite activity (at least not until fall when it's not so humid)...I do pole. I can do things that neither of you could attempt as far as that goes...but I respect both of you in your own right with regards to fitness...you wanna argue about if you're more fit than someone else? Girl...cruisin' for a bruisin'...
That's my point, how is strength training better than clean eating or better or worse than cardio? Just for a laugh...
Pole dancing is cool though.0 -
Actually yes. I am better than the clean eaters who look down their noses at my bacon eating doughnut self. If you can't outlift me in a compeittion..Please STFU. Heck, even if you can..I love eating my nonclean food and will continue to do so. But the clean eater better be better than me in my competition lifts before they preach.
Sorry dude, if you with your heavy lifting cant outrun me in a long distance race... all your lifting is just meh together with bacon... LOL
Diffference is..i am not preaching my way of eating to distance runners. And neither do I preach about my sport being better than your sport. but if I am going ot have some clean eating person tell me I am unhealthy..you better be ready to prove you can outdo me in my sports..and show your avi. I got tons of me competing. Show your real avi.0 -
I find that it is better never to bring up my eating, diet....or anything around others. I talk about other things....then if they ask me, I tell them why I do it. It was especially difficult when I was vegan for a couple years.....lots of jokes when people found that I didn't eat meat or dairy....really got sick of it.
Yes! I don't say anything unless they ask. I don't eat bread because I found I have fewer allergies and less acne and when people notice its really uncomfortable- I'd really rather not talk about my runny nose and pimples at the table- thank you haha!
People often ask if I didn't want the cake or other goodie cause I'm trying to lose weight (and then they tell me I don't need to lose weight). Reminds me of this:
lol. Its really better not to comment.
Kinda off topic sorry OP0
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