Is 1500 cals ok for a dude?

Just to throwing this out there, I'm a 30 year old dude that's 5'8 weighing in at a hefty 232lbs. I was eating 2000 cals a day and getting my 10,000 steps for awhile and losing weight just fine and then all of a sudden, it stopped producing results. I was doing what I thought was everything right for a couple weeks and my weight would go up and down and all over the place. I would keep losing and gaining the same 2-3 lbs despite my fitbit saying I burned 3000 calories for the day! Ugh

So now 2 weeks later weighing the exact same, I'm considering moving down to 1500 calories and seeing if I have any results that way. What do you think?
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  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Sounds low for your size. Two weeks isn't very long.
  • 257_Lag
    257_Lag Posts: 1,249 Member
    I'm curious, were you using your fitbit early on when you were losing?

    I added my fitbit about 8 months after I started and came to a screeching halt when I did. It took me a few months to realize that suddenly the fitbit was giving me calories for steps that I had previously not been getting. I disconnected the fitbit from MFP and the loss picked right back up. I still use the fitbit for motivation but I don't take the calories from it anymore.
  • ajnb88
    ajnb88 Posts: 339 Member
    My goal is around 1700, and I'm often around 1500 total, and I'm 6' 2". Doesn't seem to cause me much harm in terms of energy levels etc.

    One thing though, using a fitbit (or anything) can skew your results. I used to subtract calories from workouts etc, but didn't lose anything. Now I've linked accupedo to MFP I see why - because MFP has already budgeted for the calories I thought I was burning.
  • adawson55510
    adawson55510 Posts: 60 Member
    Sounds very low for your weight in saying that i have done stupid things like 1000kcals for 8 weeks straight and it did work for me but i was tired and moody and could hardly function and is not good long term as it will slow your metaboslim. You should be able to lose weight on 2500kcals if eating consistently everyday and exercising 4-5 times a week as your maintenance is probably more like 3200.
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 536 Member
    I'm curious, were you using your fitbit early on when you were losing?

    I added my fitbit about 8 months after I started and came to a screeching halt when I did. It took me a few months to realize that suddenly the fitbit was giving me calories for steps that I had previously not been getting. I disconnected the fitbit from MFP and the loss picked right back up. I still use the fitbit for motivation but I don't take the calories from it anymore.

    Yep. Been using the fitbit the whole time. I was actually down to 222 just a few months ago and recently gained back the 10 lbs and a big reason I got down to 222 in the first place was cause I always used my fitbit so much. Just seems odd that out of nowhere 2000 calories wouldn't work for me. Out of nowhere I've just been feeling bloated as hell.

    And then there's this. I know it's just an estimation, but it says my tdee should be around 3000. So if I ate 2000 for 2 weeks, that's 14000 calories that should've been burned off! I don't get it. Makes no sense to me. My body is working against me. That jerk.
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    I'm gonna try 1500 calories for awhile and see how it works for me. If that doesn't speed things up I don't know what will!
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member


    I'm gonna try 1500 calories for awhile and see how it works for me. If that doesn't speed things up I don't know what will!

    marathon, not a sprint....

    just sayin
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 536 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.
  • TheNewPriceIsLoading
    TheNewPriceIsLoading Posts: 2,135 Member
    Out of nowhere I've just been feeling bloated as hell.

    Beer
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    My first question would be do you weigh all of your solid foods with a kitchen scale and measure your liquids?

    If not, you are probably eating much more than you think you are making your deficit much smaller than you think it is. I would suggest not changing anything until you go 3-4 weeks with no change, but if you are not weighing food, start that now, it is the only way to really know how much you are eating. Anything lower than 1700 I would consider much too low for a man, esp one your size. If you do lower cals I would not suggest less than 1700
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    Are you eating the full package, many packages contain much more than one serving and the label is per serving so you should also be weighing those foods too
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 536 Member
    Well that's interesting. My fitness pal gave me 1910 cals a day to eat up until now, and now I just clicked "update profile" and now it says 1780. Whaaaat? Oh fitness pal. Have you been keeping things from me? I thought we had an open relationship where we could talk about things. Are you trying to keep me fat so I'll never leave you?

    This only adds to the confusion. What do you guys think? Should I do the calories mfp recommends (1780) or try 1500 for awhile? You people are smart. I will listen to you!
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  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    This is your problem then. You do know that what is labeled on packaging can be off, right? By up to 20%. If you're not weighing your foods, then your logging is inaccurate, no matter how it's packaged.

    As I said, 2 weeks is not a long time. You need to give it more time than that. There could be a whole host of factors coming into play that could keep your weight the same. Especially those packaged foods with high sodium....
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    Well that's interesting. My fitness pal gave me 1910 cals a day to eat up until now, and now I just clicked "update profile" and now it says 1780. Whaaaat? Oh fitness pal. Have you been keeping things from me? I thought we had an open relationship where we could talk about things. Are you trying to keep me fat so I'll never leave you?

    This only adds to the confusion. What do you guys think? Should I do the calories mfp recommends (1780) or try 1500 for awhile? You people are smart. I will listen to you!

    Eat what MFP tells you to, plus whatever your fitbit adjusts to (or at least a portion of it).
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    Well that's interesting. My fitness pal gave me 1910 cals a day to eat up until now, and now I just clicked "update profile" and now it says 1780. Whaaaat? Oh fitness pal. Have you been keeping things from me? I thought we had an open relationship where we could talk about things. Are you trying to keep me fat so I'll never leave you?

    This only adds to the confusion. What do you guys think? Should I do the calories mfp recommends (1780) or try 1500 for awhile? You people are smart. I will listen to you!

    As you lose weight your BMR goes down meaning it takes less calories to maintain your current weight, so try the 1780 for 3-4 weeks then adjust again at that point
  • icrushit
    icrushit Posts: 773 Member
    I would regard 1500 as too low myself. I have about an inch and a half on you (5' 9.5"), but am 40lbs lighter (193lbs), yet lose weight on about 1900 calories a day, give or take. In fact most weeks I lose 2lbs, or even a little more. I do have a little bit of muscle from resistance training in the past, but am mostly sedentary, with the exception of about 80 mins walking on average a day.

    More than calories for me, I found a sustainable eating pattern that left me with no low blood sugar spells, was the way to go. For me, that was ensuring I ate three decent, 500- 600 calorie meals a day, and a few hundred calories left over for snacks. Sometimes I've not felt too hungry, mostly a result of eating a lot more fat, and decent amounts of protein, on a lower carb diet I've been trying out, but I would be very wary about going under 1750 myself. Your mileage may vary, but I would try other things to break your plateau before reducing calories to such a low level.
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 536 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    This is your problem then. You do know that what is labeled on packaging can be off, right? By up to 20%. If you're not weighing your foods, then your logging is inaccurate, no matter how it's packaged.

    As I said, 2 weeks is not a long time. You need to give it more time than that. There could be a whole host of factors coming into play that could keep your weight the same. Especially those packaged foods with high sodium....

    Oh wow. I feel a little naive for not knowing, but I had no idea pre packaged foods could be off by so much. I just figured some food association or whatever probably routinely measured their food to make sure the calories they state are accurate. Ever since I read your post, I've been googling and found this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/health/12calo.html?_r=0

    Ugh. It feels like the world is dead set on keeping all of us fat sometimes. I'm gonna stick to mfp calories and start weighing things more. Adding more exercise too.
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 536 Member
    I would regard 1500 as too low myself. I have about an inch and a half on you (5' 9.5"), but am 40lbs lighter (193lbs), yet lose weight on about 1900 calories a day, give or take. In fact most weeks I lose 2lbs, or even a little more. I do have a little bit of muscle from resistance training in the past, but am mostly sedentary, with the exception of about 80 mins walking on average a day.

    More than calories for me, I found a sustainable eating pattern that left me with no low blood sugar spells, was the way to go. For me, that was ensuring I ate three decent, 500- 600 calorie meals a day, and a few hundred calories left over for snacks. Sometimes I've not felt too hungry, mostly a result of eating a lot more fat, and decent amounts of protein, on a lower carb diet I've been trying out, but I would be very wary about going under 1750 myself. Your mileage may vary, but I would try other things to break your plateau before reducing calories to such a low level.

    This post really hit home for me. I've been stressing so much over losing this damn weight that even 1900 sounded like a lot to me and the second I don't see the results I want, I get upset. I yell at the scale and spend the entire day trying to figure out what I did wrong and I'm a little afraid if I keep going like this, before I know it I'll be starving myself to lose the weight and hating myself for it.

    Has your loss been consistent doing what you're doing?
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    This is your problem then. You do know that what is labeled on packaging can be off, right? By up to 20%. If you're not weighing your foods, then your logging is inaccurate, no matter how it's packaged.

    As I said, 2 weeks is not a long time. You need to give it more time than that. There could be a whole host of factors coming into play that could keep your weight the same. Especially those packaged foods with high sodium....

    Oh wow. I feel a little naive for not knowing, but I had no idea pre packaged foods could be off by so much. I just figured some food association or whatever probably routinely measured their food to make sure the calories they state are accurate. Ever since I read your post, I've been googling and found this: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/12/health/12calo.html?_r=0

    Ugh. It feels like the world is dead set on keeping all of us fat sometimes. I'm gonna stick to mfp calories and start weighing things more. Adding more exercise too.

    I agree, it's really quite frustrating. For example, I usually buy the Perdue Perfect Portions Chicken Breast, that are packaged individually, and I've had chicken breasts from there range from 110g all the way up to 165g, when a serving size is 136g. Thankfully chicken is something that is low calorie and high protein, but it can really mess up your calorie counts!

    Even if something is individually packaged, it is by no means accurate to it's label. :indifferent:
  • MinnieInMaine
    MinnieInMaine Posts: 6,400 Member
    Suddenly cutting an additional 500 calories is a bit extreme. Why not try lowering your daily goal by 100 calories a day, give that two weeks to see how you do and then try reducing another 100 if you feel you need to? Nice gradual changes..

    Have you always been eating these pre packaged foods? If this is a newer thing, I wonder if all the sodium is what's messing with your weigh ins?

    Are you sure nothing else has changed in the last couple of weeks? Have you switched up your walks a bit - maybe going further or faster or taking different routes? Have you been drinking more or less water? Have you been sleeping the same, had more/less stress, etc etc. There are a ton of variables, which is why many folks say to wait more like 4-6 weeks before making any drastic changes to get the weight loss going again.
  • dunnodunno
    dunnodunno Posts: 2,290 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    This is your problem then. You do know that what is labeled on packaging can be off, right? By up to 20%. If you're not weighing your foods, then your logging is inaccurate, no matter how it's packaged.

    As I said, 2 weeks is not a long time. You need to give it more time than that. There could be a whole host of factors coming into play that could keep your weight the same. Especially those packaged foods with high sodium....

    Agreed with above. You can get a food scale that measures in grams & ounces at Wal-Mart for around $19.00-$20.00. You would be shocked at how small a serving of cereal you get & at times ice cream. The two things I've found that are less than the serving weight is yogurt cups that don't come in multiple servings & frozen meals.
  • MrGonzo05
    MrGonzo05 Posts: 1,120 Member
    Assuming you are active, you can easily lose weight on 2000 calories. You are eating more than you think, or you need to be patient. The body can hold on to extra water weight for 3 weeks in some cases.
  • Losingthedamnweight
    Losingthedamnweight Posts: 536 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    This is your problem then. You do know that what is labeled on packaging can be off, right? By up to 20%. If you're not weighing your foods, then your logging is inaccurate, no matter how it's packaged.

    As I said, 2 weeks is not a long time. You need to give it more time than that. There could be a whole host of factors coming into play that could keep your weight the same. Especially those packaged foods with high sodium....

    Agreed with above. You can get a food scale that measures in grams & ounces at Wal-Mart for around $19.00-$20.00. You would be shocked at how small a serving of cereal you get & at times ice cream. The two things I've found that are less than the serving weight is yogurt cups that don't come in multiple servings & frozen meals.

    I'm searching amazon right now for a food scale. I think when I start weighing things, I'm gonna be shocked how many extra calories I've been putting in my body that haven't been logged. What about the pre packaged meals though? I eat a lot of those Marie calender's meals. Those would be hard to figure out myself wouldn't they? Maybe I should just subtract a few calories from what it says on the package just to be on the safe side
  • ColeCake292012
    ColeCake292012 Posts: 247 Member
    Well at 5'3, 150 pounds...and getting my 10K steps a day I could eat 2300 and lose pretty consistently if I didn't cheat...I'd say stick with the original plan. Its just a plateau...maybe switch up the intensity of your workouts. Could be losing again in a week, could be losing again in a month. Just part of the journey, I think.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    2 weeks of not losing weight isn't very long. I'd wait 4-6 weeks and if there's still no change, then you need to reassess. 1500 calories for a man is pretty low. I doubt it's your calorie goal. I think your problem would be more in your calorie burns/fitbit numbers.

    Are you weighing your food? If not, this could also be your problem. Accuracy is key when dealing with calories. If you're not weighing your food, you're probably eating more calories than you think.

    Fitness pal gave me a goal of 1800 cals a day assuming I'm lightly active. And like my above post, the tdee calculators say I should be burning a solid 2900ish cals a day. So if for the past two weeks I'm burning thousands of calories, how could my weight stay the same? The fat would have disappeared wouldn't it? And it's not like I haven't pooped in two weeks, so it can't be that. Maybe my scale just doesn't like me. I should be nice to him and give him some new name brand batteries and see if he will give me a good number.

    I haven't been weighing my food because I've been eating a lot of pre packaged food with the calories already labeled.

    This is your problem then. You do know that what is labeled on packaging can be off, right? By up to 20%. If you're not weighing your foods, then your logging is inaccurate, no matter how it's packaged.

    As I said, 2 weeks is not a long time. You need to give it more time than that. There could be a whole host of factors coming into play that could keep your weight the same. Especially those packaged foods with high sodium....

    Agreed with above. You can get a food scale that measures in grams & ounces at Wal-Mart for around $19.00-$20.00. You would be shocked at how small a serving of cereal you get & at times ice cream. The two things I've found that are less than the serving weight is yogurt cups that don't come in multiple servings & frozen meals.

    I'm searching amazon right now for a food scale. I think when I start weighing things, I'm gonna be shocked how many extra calories I've been putting in my body that haven't been logged. What about the pre packaged meals though? I eat a lot of those Marie calender's meals. Those would be hard to figure out myself wouldn't they? Maybe I should just subtract a few calories from what it says on the package just to be on the safe side

    Those have weights on the packaging too. Weigh it, cook it, eat it, then subtract the packaging.
  • juzu5
    juzu5 Posts: 6 Member
    Don't panic Bud, keep at it. I noted that you work out 1-3 times a week , if this is strength/resistance training maybe there is a change in your shape rather than the scale (i.e. more muscle mass).

    The best two things I have picked up (and I only started recently so take this with a pinch of salt)...
    1. Don't obsess, Look at long term, sustainable strategies/goals (It takes time to reduce weight and keep it of / make lifestyle changes for good).
    2. Rely more on a tape measure than the scale.

    Good luck!
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    NO
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I would regard 1500 as too low myself. I have about an inch and a half on you (5' 9.5"), but am 40lbs lighter (193lbs), yet lose weight on about 1900 calories a day, give or take. In fact most weeks I lose 2lbs, or even a little more. I do have a little bit of muscle from resistance training in the past, but am mostly sedentary, with the exception of about 80 mins walking on average a day.

    More than calories for me, I found a sustainable eating pattern that left me with no low blood sugar spells, was the way to go. For me, that was ensuring I ate three decent, 500- 600 calorie meals a day, and a few hundred calories left over for snacks. Sometimes I've not felt too hungry, mostly a result of eating a lot more fat, and decent amounts of protein, on a lower carb diet I've been trying out, but I would be very wary about going under 1750 myself. Your mileage may vary, but I would try other things to break your plateau before reducing calories to such a low level.

    This post really hit home for me. I've been stressing so much over losing this damn weight that even 1900 sounded like a lot to me and the second I don't see the results I want, I get upset. I yell at the scale and spend the entire day trying to figure out what I did wrong and I'm a little afraid if I keep going like this, before I know it I'll be starving myself to lose the weight and hating myself for it.

    Has your loss been consistent doing what you're doing?
    Just throwing this out there, you could be retaining water. Say you were retaining a little bit on your first weigh in, then you stressed. Stress increases cortisol, which in turn causes water retention.

    I also vote for keeping where you are at for a few more weeks. Sometimes there will be a "whoosh" (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/of-whooshes-and-squishy-fat.html).

    If you do feel you "must" lower your calories, eat at the 1780 and if you fitbit adjusts the number, eat those calories back too (I'm guessing at the end of the day, the combo has you close to where you are eating now).

    Patience really is the key, and weight loss is not linear. Breathe. It will be ok...
  • Jacwhite22
    Jacwhite22 Posts: 7,010 Member
    Just to throwing this out there, I'm a 30 year old dude that's 5'8 weighing in at a hefty 232lbs. I was eating 2000 cals a day and getting my 10,000 steps for awhile and losing weight just fine and then all of a sudden, it stopped producing results. I was doing what I thought was everything right for a couple weeks and my weight would go up and down and all over the place. I would keep losing and gaining the same 2-3 lbs despite my fitbit saying I burned 3000 calories for the day! Ugh

    So now 2 weeks later weighing the exact same, I'm considering moving down to 1500 calories and seeing if I have any results that way. What do you think?

    How are you measuring your food intake? Do you ever eat out or is everything prepared at home?