1,200 - but what if you're eating good food?

If someone put potato chips on one table and spinach on the other and said, "Point to the one that is bad for you," you would have a hard time with that? You'd say, "There are no bad foods! I can't pick!"

Or would you point to the chips, knowing that they are not good for you?

Why are you telling me what you're eating for dinner?

I'd tell them that they're asking the wrong question.

The point you are ignoring is that determining whether one food is better for you than another is highly dependent on context. "Better" doesn't have an objective meaning that is consistently true for everyone in every situation. If you are talking to an overweight diabetic, the definition of "better" or "healthier" is different than if you are talking to a recovering anorexic.

Good. Excellent.

Glad I won't be seeing any more posts suggesting that there are no good and bad foods, that healthy is the focus, but that has to be based on the individual's particular dietary needs.

Wonderful.

Just to clarify -- there are no objectively good or bad foods, everything is fine in moderation (unless you have an underlying medical condition), what is healthy for you may very well be detrimental to me, and I'm having pizza for dinner tonight.

Really?

If someone put potato chips on one table and spinach on the other and said, "Point to the one that is bad for you," you would have a hard time with that? You'd say, "There are no bad foods! I can't pick!"

Or would you point to the chips, knowing that they are not good for you?

Why are you telling me what you're eating for dinner?

You seemed to think that I agreed with you. I don't. There is nothing in chips that is "bad" for me. If they were arsenic-flavored chips, that would be another story.

If i had to choose between eating a chicken breast or a deluxe pizza (only), I would definitely choose a deluxe pizza. It would be healthier as it has more macros/micros.

So you can't just say a chicken breast is healthier than a deluxe pizza...

Now I want chips and spinach dip...

God bless you.

I'm on a 1200 calorie diet and it is more than adequate because I eat a lot of vegetables, fruits, tofu, low fat cheese, eggs, etc which are not high in calories and are nutrient rich. I don't feel hungry and I haven't felt cold like I always used to when I dieted and went much lower in calories (I didn't know any better at the time). Also if you try some raw desserts they are very satisfying and healthy. It is a very individual thing. I agree with your line of reasoning.

Most MFP posters don't think that there is any difference between potato chips and spinach. Nothing is good or bad. The other day someone was arguing that deluxe pizza is probably more healthy than baked chicken breast.

As far as weight loss goes, they're right. You can and will lose weight on a calorie deficit, even if all you eat is pizza and ice cream. You can eat a lot more food if it's healthy food, though.

Many people suggest that making junk food 1/5 of your diet is the best plan.

You should ask your doctor.

Than decide what you want.

Who's most? :huh:

The ones who routinely say that there is no good or bad food. Most threads end up with a majority of people falling into that category. Often, they will actually deny that junk food exists. No such thing.

Deluxe pizza is more healthy than baked chicken breast - that sort of thing.

In for the hyperbole.

Scoot over!

Got my boots on. So I'm ready for it to get piled deep...

If someone put potato chips on one table and spinach on the other and said, "Point to the one that is bad for you," you would have a hard time with that? You'd say, "There are no bad foods! I can't pick!"

Or would you point to the chips, knowing that they are not good for you?

Chips are not bad for you.

Unless they are Kale chips. They are so sad they hurt my heart.

But kale chips are NATURAL! They're UNPROCESSED! 'cause FREEZE DRIED!

First of all, the title of this post would make more sense if it said, "1,200-but what if you're eating bad food?," because 1.200 calories is not enough calories for a person's body to function efficiently. Secondly, where the hell are you getting your protein if you're trying to completely cut-out meat and dairy products? I know there are other ways to incorporate protein into your diet, but do you? Fruit and veggies aren't going to suffice. Third, your metabolism is going to go to *kitten* if you're not eating enough, and at some point, you're going to reach starvation mode and completely counteract all of your efforts to lose weight or maintain a healthy weight. Lastly, I don't know you, and I don't know if my opinion will matter to you at all or why I'm even responding to this post in the first place, except that I'm currently recovering from an eating disorder, and it's some tough *kitten*. You don't want to end up where I did. It's mentally draining as well as physically, obviously. Do yourself a favor and feed your body what it needs. Don't deprive yourself. Consider exercising if you aren't. At least then you won't feel so uncomfortable with having to eat "so much" because FOOD IS FUEL.

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1200 worked for me the first couple of months but after that I got dizzy with headaches and just plain felt sick. I also was at a plateau for a couple weeks and wasn't losing anything and couldn't figure out why. I bumped mine up to 1400 and now I am back to losing weight and I am not feeling sick anymore. It may work for some people, but for me it turned out 1200 wasn't enough. I know a lot of people start with 1200 and I can't really tell somebody not to because they are going to do what they want anyway, but I am thinking now that unless you have some health issue that requires that low of calories, I wouldn't go that far down. That's just me though.

Dont know what you arguing about , but i always look at "quality of kcal" I wish get maximum benefits of every kcal i intake.And there are healthy and unhealthy food in my opinion.

And you have the right to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.

Poor OP just asked a question and the trolls went to war!
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Poor OP just asked a question and the trolls went to war!
Lol

Poor OP just asked a question and you came in here with nothing of value to add to the discussion. LOL

But here's a bizarre gif as a reward for you

I cannot stop staring at this gif.

Bizarre is an understatement. FREAKY!!!!

I know right?! I mean why is that hot dog just lying there????