weigh and measure everything?
Stella_Mayfair
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Okay, this is hell. I get accused of being an anorexic for asking questions (rather not rehash) and this is what anorexic/bulimics/ednos do. I am recovered now for 5 years of my eating disorders yet suffer a less now from binge eating disorder (you eat even when not hungry and do not purge, hence wait gain). I know the seriousness of it, ppl treat it as a joke. I wanna be my realistic weight again, but do I have to go back to my e.d measuring to get there?
IF ANYONE IS GONNA BASH, YELL AT ME, OR ACCUSE ME OF BEING ANOREXIC OR ANY ED NOW, PLZ DON'T POST. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN. I LOST MORE THAN WEIGH. I LOST PPL TO THE ILLNESSES. MALE AND FEMALE.
IF ANYONE IS GONNA BASH, YELL AT ME, OR ACCUSE ME OF BEING ANOREXIC OR ANY ED NOW, PLZ DON'T POST. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN. I LOST MORE THAN WEIGH. I LOST PPL TO THE ILLNESSES. MALE AND FEMALE.
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I would avoid behaviors that trigger your ED. You can lose weight estimating your portions, if you know how to do it, or find another method that works for you. Then again, do you really need to lose? Work your program from your doctor.0
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I don't know a thing about eating disorders so, I'm just gonna answer as if you were just another one of the rest of us. Yes. Measure and weigh long enough to be able to eyeball correct serving sizes. Read the label, measure out the serving size, compare it to the size of your fist, hand, thumb or other body part for future reference. When you're getting pretty close, put the scale and the measuring cups away. Maybe go back to measuring every so often to keep yourself from 'portion creep', but I don't see the need to do it every day for the rest of your life. You can teach yourself to be a little more independent this way.0
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Okay, just so many ppl keep saying "weigh and measure everything!" Idm using cups tbsps etc. I always read the labels-habit.
But to measure down to the t is insane on a daily basis for each meal. Reminds me of the hell inside...0 -
> But to measure down to the t is insane on a daily basis for each meal. Reminds me of the hell inside...
Sometimes you can't, but that's exactly why it's important to do it when you can -- you need to train your eye now so that you can more accurately estimate later. When you're in a restaurant eating salmon, what does 4 ounces of salmon look like? How much did the server just bring you?0 -
I am a recovering anorexic, it is still a large part of my life. I fight myself daily on my appearance. I found what helped me was to eat what I wanted and count calories. However I made sure I didn't go to my old habits and restrict to less than 1000. I make myself eat like 1300 even if I am having a bad day. I had my second baby January 2013, I was 168lbs. Lost to 140lbs by June 2013 then fell off the wagon and was up to 155lbs by the beginning of this year. I am now 131-133lbs at 5'8"
My ultimate goal is 125-128lbs. BF of 16% I know it will likely take me a few months to get to the rest of my goal because I am already small, excepting that it takes time and you don't need results is the largest part for those of us that had delt with food issue I believe.0 -
Okay, just so many ppl keep saying "weigh and measure everything!" Idm using cups tbsps etc. I always read the labels-habit.
But to measure down to the t is insane on a daily basis for each meal. Reminds me of the hell inside...
You don't need to measure everything. Only the absolutely fanatics would bother with that. I measure the milk that goes into my protein shakes always. However everything else I just measure once or twice with a cup or scale and use my eyes to estimate. If your a few grams or mL off it's not going to make that much of a difference in your final numbers and hey, why not just overestimate to be safe.0 -
I weigh and measure calorie dense stuff like proteins, fats and carbs (including fruit). I don't worry too much about vegetables.0
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i think whether your eating disorder is anorexia or binge eating..either way the problem is a food obsession..and by weighing and measuring everything you are just opening the door from one problem to another. it's fine for regular people on a diet, who just want to lose a few lbs and have never had an ED but for you it will just lead to an extreme. you need to find a way to be healthy, make healthy eating choices without over analyzing everything and becoming obsessed with the numbers. I would just choose a healthy calorie goal and stick to it.0
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I weigh everything because my goals require being fairly accurate and require accuracy with protein intake. Whether I'm cutting, maintaining, or eventually bulking, I will still weigh my foods.0
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I think its imperative for some people to weigh and measure accurately when their goal is weight loss. I'm sure there are people that can eyeball but they have probably been doing this for years.0
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Im in recovery from binge eating disorder and the only thing I weigh in my carbs. I have 30g for brekkie (bread, porridge etc), 200g of potato or 180g or cooked pasta or rice with lunch/dinner or 60g of bread. Thats the minimum I allow myself and if im hungry ill have more. Outside that I just log the serving guidlines on the pack.
If weighing is going to make you spiral downwards dont even think about it.
With regards the bingeing keep a journal I found that great to write how I was feeling then to wake up the following morning to see how I felt and I overcame it was amazing.0 -
OP ... in one sentence you claimed you recovered from an your ED only to admit to a current ED ..." I am recovered now for 5 years of my eating disorders yet suffer a less now from binge eating disorder." Nobody has to accuse you of anything, you stated you suffer (present tense of the verb) from an ED.
If you can't weigh foods without it triggering unhealthy behaviors you have two options ... don't weigh and hope you eyeball things accurately enough to stay in a healthy weight range or seek further help so you can get to the point where weighing foods no longer triggers unhealthy behaviors.0 -
I do this whenever I have messed up the week prior. If not, not really. I just count the calories and keep up with regular exercise.0
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real talk, i'm not sure if this site is a healthy place for you just yet.0
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I would suggest you work with an ED specialist in both nutrition and counseling before going it alone or asking a forum of people who may be completely unfamiliar with your specific ED issues. To fully recover and safely lose or gain weight could take years for proper nutrition, managing your fear foods, and coping with the stress of eating enough all the time.0
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real talk, i'm not sure if this site is a healthy place for you just yet.
my thoughts exactly. stay healthy, sister!0 -
Okay, this is hell. I get accused of being an anorexic for asking questions (rather not rehash) and this is what anorexic/bulimics/ednos do. I am recovered now for 5 years of my eating disorders yet suffer a less now from binge eating disorder (you eat even when not hungry and do not purge, hence wait gain). I know the seriousness of it, ppl treat it as a joke. I wanna be my realistic weight again, but do I have to go back to my e.d measuring to get there?
IF ANYONE IS GONNA BASH, YELL AT ME, OR ACCUSE ME OF BEING ANOREXIC OR ANY ED NOW, PLZ DON'T POST. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BRING THIS UP AGAIN. I LOST MORE THAN WEIGH. I LOST PPL TO THE ILLNESSES. MALE AND FEMALE.
Measuring and weighing is not part of an ED...it is normal...it is when you restrict yourself to the point of starvation using those tools that you have an ED...
To lose weight you need to be in a calorie deficit...how you get there is your business but I agree...you are not ready for this site if you think weighing food is disordered thinking.0 -
OP ... in one sentence you claimed you recovered from an your ED only to admit to a current ED ..." I am recovered now for 5 years of my eating disorders yet suffer a less now from binge eating disorder." Nobody has to accuse you of anything, you stated you suffer (present tense of the verb) from an ED.
If you can't weigh foods without it triggering unhealthy behaviors you have two options ... don't weigh and hope you eyeball things accurately enough to stay in a healthy weight range or seek further help so you can get to the point where weighing foods no longer triggers unhealthy behaviors.
I was bashed on this site by posters b/c they think or assume I have anorexia. I do get binge eating urges. I have less and less. But ur right about this site. After my last post I was triggered and binge ate for 2 days and wondered y I gained weight-but I knew. The ppl here can be cruel. But I find my pals on here so supportive, many whom are recovered from all, or have binge eating.
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I think it would be best for me to do my new (helpful) thing (measure not everything) and talk to my friends on here. I notice a stigma, I hate it. It makes me feel like a leper. I am said to be "not one of us" or "like the rest of us." I think that trigger my bed ed. But the others are buried. I am constantly told to seek help. I put that caption due to my last topic the admins had to shut down.
But ty to all for not being bullies I will ask my dr about my binge eating problem, but e.ds are not as easy financially or offered as much as ppl think. Hence y so many die from e.ds Even if u want the help. You won't have the money0 -
Okay, just so many ppl keep saying "weigh and measure everything!" Idm using cups tbsps etc. I always read the labels-habit.
But to measure down to the t is insane on a daily basis for each meal. Reminds me of the hell inside...
As others have said, I am not sure whether this site is best for you given your circumstances,
Weighing and measuring is fine and preferable for many,, however, some people just should not be doing it due to underlying issues. In fact, some people should not really be calorie counting at all. Here is a link to a podcast that may help:
http://evidencemag.com/weight-loss-habits/0 -
OP ... in one sentence you claimed you recovered from an your ED only to admit to a current ED ..." I am recovered now for 5 years of my eating disorders yet suffer a less now from binge eating disorder." Nobody has to accuse you of anything, you stated you suffer (present tense of the verb) from an ED.
If you can't weigh foods without it triggering unhealthy behaviors you have two options ... don't weigh and hope you eyeball things accurately enough to stay in a healthy weight range or seek further help so you can get to the point where weighing foods no longer triggers unhealthy behaviors.
I was bashed on this site by posters b/c they think or assume I have anorexia. I do get binge eating urges. I have less and less. But ur right about this site. After my last post I was triggered and binge ate for 2 days and wondered y I gained weight-but I knew. The ppl here can be cruel. But I find my pals on here so supportive, many whom are recovered from all, or have binge eating.
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I think it would be best for me to do my new (helpful) thing (measure not everything) and talk to my friends on here. I notice a stigma, I hate it. It makes me feel like a leper. I am said to be "not one of us" or "like the rest of us." I think that trigger my bed ed. But the others are buried. I am constantly told to seek help. I put that caption due to my last topic the admins had to shut down.
But ty to all for not being bullies I will ask my dr about my binge eating problem, but e.ds are not as easy financially or offered as much as ppl think. Hence y so many die from e.ds Even if u want the help. You won't have the money
When a person gets defensive and introduces ED behavior into a thread before there is any accusation ... it is rather telling. Perhaps it isn't people being "cruel" but people telling you truths that you don't want to hear or face. You admit to an ED in your first post of this thread ... your behaviors indicate an unhealthy relationship with food and basic weight control measures such as measuring ... you get upset and binge when people notice and highlight your rather obvious issues with food.0 -
OP ... in one sentence you claimed you recovered from an your ED only to admit to a current ED ..." I am recovered now for 5 years of my eating disorders yet suffer a less now from binge eating disorder." Nobody has to accuse you of anything, you stated you suffer (present tense of the verb) from an ED.
If you can't weigh foods without it triggering unhealthy behaviors you have two options ... don't weigh and hope you eyeball things accurately enough to stay in a healthy weight range or seek further help so you can get to the point where weighing foods no longer triggers unhealthy behaviors.
I was bashed on this site by posters b/c they think or assume I have anorexia. I do get binge eating urges. I have less and less. But ur right about this site. After my last post I was triggered and binge ate for 2 days and wondered y I gained weight-but I knew. The ppl here can be cruel. But I find my pals on here so supportive, many whom are recovered from all, or have binge eating.
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I think it would be best for me to do my new (helpful) thing (measure not everything) and talk to my friends on here. I notice a stigma, I hate it. It makes me feel like a leper. I am said to be "not one of us" or "like the rest of us." I think that trigger my bed ed. But the others are buried. I am constantly told to seek help. I put that caption due to my last topic the admins had to shut down.
But ty to all for not being bullies I will ask my dr about my binge eating problem, but e.ds are not as easy financially or offered as much as ppl think. Hence y so many die from e.ds Even if u want the help. You won't have the money
When a person gets defensive and introduces ED behavior into a thread before there is any accusation ... it is rather telling. Perhaps it isn't people being "cruel" but people telling you truths that you don't want to hear or face. You admit to an ED in your first post of this thread ... your behaviors indicate an unhealthy relationship with food and basic weight control measures such as measuring ... you get upset and binge when people notice and highlight your rather obvious issues with food.
Idw argue anymore. It's like ppl calling someone something they were and judge them based on that. I was yes anorexic. Yet in many other topic on MFP posters assume I still am. Yet they are the ones saying they measure everything and don't care what they look like as long as they are healthy. Hypocrites they are. But I rather not get into the last thread. I just wanted to know why that is acceptable but asking about thighs with a tiny gap make you anorexic. Plus I was worried if I didn't weigh I wouldn't lose weight. I have said I will see my dr for my bed ed. Ppl saying "I will pretend you are one of us." wtf does that mean? Am I not a human? I am not angry as I type-no tone when ppl type, plz don't assume in haste that I am. I was in the last thread. Not here, just wanted to see if anyone would see, yea those ppl may need a little help too. Idk, I am tired of strangers telling me to go. I will leave u all, I'm gone.
"I know always that I am an outsider; a stranger in this century and among those who are still men. This I have known ever since I stretched out my fingers to the abomination within that great gilded frame; stretched out my fingers and touched a cold and unyielding surface of polished glass."
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I don't know a thing about eating disorders so, I'm just gonna answer as if you were just another one of the rest of us.
How cruel?0 -
I wouldn't have known about the other thread or your belief that others accuse you of anorexia if you hadn't repeatedly injected those facts into this thread. It seems you get upset if people treat you like you have an ED and get upset if they treat you as they treat everyone.
What I see in your posts are several unhealthy traits ... both in relation to food and in general. There is rapid defensive behavior, starting with your first post before anyone here said a thing about you. There is your repeated injection of an ED you claim you've recovered from coupled with admissions to binge eating and seeing weighing/measuring as a trigger ... not exactly an ED free thought pattern. There is your stated ultimate goal weight which is ... well, I'll be nice and say it's a bit low for your height ... but people are "cruel" for noticing what you say and do, right?0 -
You don't need to measure everything. Only the absolutely fanatics would bother with that.
This statement is ignorant and thoughtless.
I measure everything, and I am far from an "absolute fanatic". I care about what I eat and what goes in my body. It takes literally nine seconds (I timed myself once to settle an argument about it with my sister) or less to measure a serving of food on my digital scale, so I am entirely baffled where people get the idea that only crazy or obsessive people do it. It's fast, it's free, and it gives me concrete data to work with that keeps me on track with my goals. Fanatic. Yep. That's me, the ol' food fanatic. :huh: :noway:
OP, if measuring food is truly "hell" for you (assuming you actually mean that and are not just being dramatic and attention-seeking--I'll give you the benefit of the doubt) I would recommend increasing you therapy with your ED counselor to get over and past it. Thousands of people employ the measuring method in order to stay on track and stay fit and healthy, and no one I've talked to considers it "hell" or "insane". Time to start thinking that the problem lies with you, not how you portion food.0 -
IANAD.
Measuring and weighing everything isn't necessary, but unless you're good at estimating - and studies show overweight and obese people aren't - it's an essential first step to finding out how much three ounces of anything looks like.
If you can eyeball portions and get it to work, more power to you.0 -
IANAD.
Measuring and weighing everything isn't necessary, but unless you're good at estimating - and studies show overweight and obese people aren't - it's an essential first step to finding out how much three ounces of anything looks like.
If you can eyeball portions and get it to work, more power to you.
yes ty I see that now. I just use it like the scale for my chia seed etc.0 -
I wouldn't have known about the other thread or your belief that others accuse you of anorexia if you hadn't repeatedly injected those facts into this thread. It seems you get upset if people treat you like you have an ED and get upset if they treat you as they treat everyone.
What I see in your posts are several unhealthy traits ... both in relation to food and in general. There is rapid defensive behavior, starting with your first post before anyone here said a thing about you. There is your repeated injection of an ED you claim you've recovered from coupled with admissions to binge eating and seeing weighing/measuring as a trigger ... not exactly an ED free thought pattern. There is your stated ultimate goal weight which is ... well, I'll be nice and say it's a bit low for your height ... but people are "cruel" for noticing what you say and do, right?
how tall am I? 5ft4 and 120 is too low?0 -
I wouldn't have known about the other thread or your belief that others accuse you of anorexia if you hadn't repeatedly injected those facts into this thread. It seems you get upset if people treat you like you have an ED and get upset if they treat you as they treat everyone.
What I see in your posts are several unhealthy traits ... both in relation to food and in general. There is rapid defensive behavior, starting with your first post before anyone here said a thing about you. There is your repeated injection of an ED you claim you've recovered from coupled with admissions to binge eating and seeing weighing/measuring as a trigger ... not exactly an ED free thought pattern. There is your stated ultimate goal weight which is ... well, I'll be nice and say it's a bit low for your height ... but people are "cruel" for noticing what you say and do, right?
how tall am I? 5ft4 and 120 is too low?
It might not be "too" low, but any lower and you might be entering underweight territory. To give perspective, In this picture
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I am 108 pounds at just under five feet.
You are at a great weight now. If you are still unhappy with your appearance, start lifting heavy weights to maintain your muscle mass and lose the last little bit of body fat.0 -
I wouldn't have known about the other thread or your belief that others accuse you of anorexia if you hadn't repeatedly injected those facts into this thread. It seems you get upset if people treat you like you have an ED and get upset if they treat you as they treat everyone.
What I see in your posts are several unhealthy traits ... both in relation to food and in general. There is rapid defensive behavior, starting with your first post before anyone here said a thing about you. There is your repeated injection of an ED you claim you've recovered from coupled with admissions to binge eating and seeing weighing/measuring as a trigger ... not exactly an ED free thought pattern. There is your stated ultimate goal weight which is ... well, I'll be nice and say it's a bit low for your height ... but people are "cruel" for noticing what you say and do, right?
how tall am I? 5ft4 and 120 is too low?
It's funny how that differs from your claim on August 11th when you were 5'6 with an ugw of 105. Did you shrink and change your goals since then?
ETA - It's noteworthy that of all the things said in my earlier post the only thing you focused on was the ugw.0 -
I wouldn't have known about the other thread or your belief that others accuse you of anorexia if you hadn't repeatedly injected those facts into this thread. It seems you get upset if people treat you like you have an ED and get upset if they treat you as they treat everyone.
What I see in your posts are several unhealthy traits ... both in relation to food and in general. There is rapid defensive behavior, starting with your first post before anyone here said a thing about you. There is your repeated injection of an ED you claim you've recovered from coupled with admissions to binge eating and seeing weighing/measuring as a trigger ... not exactly an ED free thought pattern. There is your stated ultimate goal weight which is ... well, I'll be nice and say it's a bit low for your height ... but people are "cruel" for noticing what you say and do, right?
how tall am I? 5ft4 and 120 is too low?
It might not be "too" low, but any lower and you might be entering underweight territory. To give perspective, In this picture
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I am 108 pounds at just under five feet.
You are at a great weight now. If you are still unhappy with your appearance, start lifting heavy weights to maintain your muscle mass and lose the last little bit of body fat.
Yea see that is the thing, I see ppl who are like you and u weigh so little but are super toned. So my gw will change (when I see results. I put a rough estimate on my goals.). Idw be skinny dead like, I want to look good (how I see fit)and feel good
Hell the more I must way the more food I get right:P Gotta feed my muscles
You look amazing. I always think muscle will make you weigh more, but it is 1lbs just like fat but dense.0
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