National Anthem During Prayers
So... not sure if anyone saw this- but my co-worker brought it up this morning raving about how awesome it was....
http://totalfratmove.com/american-soldier-plays-star-spangled-banner-on-electric-guitar-during-prayer-time-in-afghanistan-video/
I immediately asked if it was an american solider stationed in Afghanistan and he said yes and how awesome it was.
I said- during THEIR prayers?
Yup- SO AWESOME.
I was offended for them and said that is so unacceptable and rude.
"BUT THEY TRIED TO BLOW US UP"
blink blink- it's still rude. we are in their country- helping their military organize. So Rude.
All I can think of is "this is why no one likes our country"
cranky panda pants is cranky.
<bracing for the onslaught of 'MERICA comments>
http://totalfratmove.com/american-soldier-plays-star-spangled-banner-on-electric-guitar-during-prayer-time-in-afghanistan-video/
I immediately asked if it was an american solider stationed in Afghanistan and he said yes and how awesome it was.
I said- during THEIR prayers?
Yup- SO AWESOME.
I was offended for them and said that is so unacceptable and rude.
"BUT THEY TRIED TO BLOW US UP"
blink blink- it's still rude. we are in their country- helping their military organize. So Rude.
All I can think of is "this is why no one likes our country"
cranky panda pants is cranky.
<bracing for the onslaught of 'MERICA comments>
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In before the lock.
Yeah, not really cool. The entire population of Afghanistan did not try to blow us up. Just a group of psycho, ignorant *kitten* did. Innocent Muslims deserve the respect to pray.
One of the most ignorant things I've ever saw was a sign that said "All I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11"0 -
So, one of our soldiers played our national anthem during Muslim prayers?
I agree. Disrespectful.
It is not the religion of Islam that murdered our people. It is the fundamentalist wackos that did so, hiding behind the guise of religion while keeping their followers ignorant. Those "people" are the equivalent of the KKK or Westboro church, both of which are Christian but obviously do not represent the faith. It is very important to keep the RELIGION and the PEOPLE separate, because ISIS and ISIL and all these fundamentalists obviously have never read nor understand their proclaimed religious tomes. I have read them, and no where does it say it is OK to blow people up who disagree with your faith. Not in ANY religion.0 -
I'm atheist, but I still have respect for the religious preferences of others. I don't think what the soldier did was awesome. It was offensive.
I think if we turned it around and said that Christians were having a prayer time and someone played the Islamic Call to Prayer or another country's national anthem they would be very offended.0 -
I agree. Disrespectful. And not at all the image of the troops that I want out there as a military spouse.0
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He was wrong.
He does not represent all of us, just as the extremist do not represent the Muslim community either.0 -
Well let me just park a seat right up front here cause this is gonna get interesting
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So, one of our soldiers played our national anthem during Muslim prayers?
I agree. Disrespectful.
It is not the religion of Islam that murdered our people. It is the fundamentalist wackos that did so, hiding behind the guise of religion while keeping their followers ignorant. Those "people" are the equivalent of the KKK or Westboro church, both of which are Christian but obviously do not represent the faith. It is very important to keep the RELIGION and the PEOPLE separate, because ISIS and ISIL and all these fundamentalists obviously have never read nor understand their proclaimed religious tomes. I have read them, and no where does it say it is OK to blow people up who disagree with your faith. Not in ANY religion.
yeah.
I just. I can't.
I agree.
I'm glad I'm not going crazy on this one- I was so flabbergasted he thought it was alright.0 -
As a member of a family that has sent 4 people I love into harm's way in Iraq - I find this person's actions extremely disrespectful. And disappointing.0
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Extremely disrespectful and, to take it a bit farther, helps any of the extremists because it can be used to recruit.0
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Total **** move.0
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Yup, totally disrespectful. Quite disgusting too.
Runs counter to part of the purpose for even being there. If it's to be our responsibility to be the giant world military power with a sense of responsibility and morality that the world has historically not had, then little **** like this adds up and runs counter to that goal.0 -
Total **** move.
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So, one of our soldiers played our national anthem during Muslim prayers?
I agree. Disrespectful.
It is not the religion of Islam that murdered our people. It is the fundamentalist wackos that did so, hiding behind the guise of religion while keeping their followers ignorant. Those "people" are the equivalent of the KKK or Westboro church, both of which are Christian but obviously do not represent the faith. It is very important to keep the RELIGION and the PEOPLE separate, because ISIS and ISIL and all these fundamentalists obviously have never read nor understand their proclaimed religious tomes. I have read them, and no where does it say it is OK to blow people up who disagree with your faith. Not in ANY religion.
All of this!0 -
Yup, totally disrespectful. Quite disgusting too.
Runs counter to part of the purpose for even being there. If it's to be our responsibility to be the giant world military power with a sense of responsibility and morality that the world has historically not had, then little **** like this adds up and runs counter to that goal.
That was kind of my point... we are there to HELP them build- this- is just not doing US our them any favors.0 -
I'm atheist, but I still have respect for the religious preferences of others. I don't think what the soldier did was awesome. It was offensive.
I think if we turned it around and said that Christians were having a prayer time and someone played the Islamic Call to Prayer or another country's national anthem they would be very offended.
All of this....
That soldier is representing America and he only continued to portray what other countries already think....that we are closed minded, rude, and self centered. Putting on a uniform and fighting over seas doesn't give you the right to act like that.0 -
What are you all talking about? How will the world learn about freedom if Americans don't go and tell the world at every opportunity we get? That prayer thing is probably code for some war against freedom anyways. Good for him for disrupting their code words.0
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Anytime an American is in another foreign country, that country should start abiding the American ways immediately and the American way is to spread freedom and what better way to spread freedom by oppressing non-christians right to pray by blasting music!0
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This thread is remarkably drama-free.0
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I wonder if it's even true. I hear about a lot of things like this that turn out to be hoaxes. I checked Snopes for it but they don't have anything. I certainly hope it's not true because it is highly offensive and I like to think our soldiers are trained better than to do something so stupid.
ETA: I've done more research and this happened back in Dec. 2012. The soldier's name is Beau Embrey. Videos show him playing it at a military base. All the videos claim it's during Muslim prayer time, but since they have formal prayers 5 times a day, it wouldn't be hard to hit at least one of them just by coincidence. LOL. As far as I could tell, no Muslims were within hearing distance.0 -
Ugh, disgusting. Certainly disrespectful, and certainly representing us very poorly. Tensions between our cultures are high enough; let's not fuel them further.0
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Anytime an American is in another foreign country, that country should start abiding the American ways immediately and the American way is to spread freedom and what better way to spread freedom by oppressing non-christians right to pray by blasting music!
I really hope this was a sarcastic reply. America assuming everyone is like us or should be like us is probably one of the reasons why we haven't been more successful helping other countries. It is important to respect other people's religions and cultures. I am proud to be an American (served 10 years in the Air Force) but sometimes I am embarrassed by our arrogance. How often do we hear people saying people who come to American should learn English yet when we go to another country we don't try to learn their language.
As a former military member just want to point out most of the military is awesome and this one person is not representative of the majority. Unfortunately, just like any group you have some who do things that go against the values of the group.0 -
What are you all talking about? How will the world learn about freedom if Americans don't go and tell the world at every opportunity we get? That prayer thing is probably code for some war against freedom anyways. Good for him for disrupting their code words.
Smack.0 -
I'm atheist, but I still have respect for the religious preferences of others. I don't think what the soldier did was awesome. It was offensive.
I think if we turned it around and said that Christians were having a prayer time and someone played the Islamic Call to Prayer or another country's national anthem they would be very offended.
This exactly...0 -
The link appears to be from a totally reputable news source, right? I have googled this incident and can find nothing about it from any real news website. And you KNOW CNN would have been ALL OVER IT if it were true.0
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This appears to be from 2012 and this person appears to be a real person but no news story which is probably good in this case as it will only cause more problems for our soldiers currently serving.0
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Wait...where are all the people shoutin' 'MURICA!!! ...? I'm confused...is this backwards day?0
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Total **** move.
For sure! What a D!ck!0 -
This thread is remarkably drama-free.
...until Taunto came in, LOL.0 -
All I can think of is "this is why no one likes our country"
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I wonder if it's even true. I hear about a lot of things like this that turn out to be hoaxes. I checked Snopes for it but they don't have anything. I certainly hope it's not true because it is highly offensive and I like to think our soldiers are trained better than to do something so stupid.
ETA: I've done more research and this happened back in Dec. 2012. The soldier's name is Beau Embrey. Videos show him playing it at a military base. All the videos claim it's during Muslim prayer time, but since they have formal prayers 5 times a day, it wouldn't be hard to hit at least one of them just by coincidence. LOL. As far as I could tell, no Muslims were within hearing distance.
Well- to be fair- 5 isn't' that many times- I mean I pee more times than that and can play all sorts of music between and not hit my pee breaks- so I think it's not unreasonable to STOP doing it....I don't think it's that hard to avoid it honestly.
BUT- thank you for the follow up- I had to actually hack cut/paste the link into my original thread b/c I cant' access ANYTHING- there are some YouTube videos as well- but clearly those are off limits at work.0
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